Reasons Senju>Uchiha in the past.

[Mitarashi]

We all know that the Senju were stronger than the Uchiha in the past, but why? With only 1 Mokuton user and against multiple MS/3 tomeo Sharingan users and even an EMS user, how did they win?

There a few reasons, and they are simple.

1)

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This man, Senju Hashirama, Dubbed the God of shinobi, Master of Sage mode and Mokuton, he had an impressive arsenal of attacks, especially this monstrous thing

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Easily able to subdue Bijuu and break Susano'o.. Hashirama was probably 70% of the Senju's might.

2) But even if Hashirama wasn't there, they'd still have an immense advantage over the Uchiha, 2 Jutsu that were available for the Senju and the Senju only-

Shadow clones- It doesn't matter if you have the Sharingan, having 10,000 angry senju bearing down on you from all sides isn't fun, even if you know who's real it's not going to stop the others from stabbing you.

Edo tensi- Far from perfected, but still extremely formidable, Tobirama Senju proves his worth again by bringing around a jutsu that probably changed the tide of many battles, Imagine having to face Undead, Invincible Uchiha that were once your kin, if they'd managed to get hold of a dead MS user it'd be catastrophic.

3) The sages gifts.
We know the Uchiha got Sharingan, and the Senju got the 'Body and spirit' of the sage, but this un-fair when you think about it.

Most of the Uchiha had their 3tomeo or lower Sharingan, whilst only a few had the power of the MS and 1 had the EMS, EVERY senju had impressive vitality, most had enormous strength and all were fierce shinobi, Unless you were a VERY skilled 3T sharingan user or you had MS/EMS, you were immediately outclassed in a battle with a Senju.

End result?
The Senju, for the most part, had better jutsu, stronger bodies and a leader who was strong beyond belief.

 

[Transcendence]

I think simply because the Senju were able to excel in all the fields better than the Uchiha, that battlefields were largely in favor of the Senju. With constant, very fast paced battle, most Genjutsu is rendered useless. Superior Taijutsu and varying Ninjutsu equate to an advantage. And both clans had monsters at the top, it just so happened one was superior to the other in almost every way.

 

[realobito1]

whatever... Im gone log off now :bye:

 

[KingHashirama]

Sorry, Senju CLAN was stronger then uchiha CLAN. Unless you can show me a fight where Hashirama is taking on every single Uchiha...


3 of the 4 powerful people of that era were from the Senju clan.

 

[Mitarashi]

Sorry, Senju CLAN was stronger then uchiha CLAN. Unless you can show me a fight where Hashirama is taking on every single Uchiha...


3 of the 4 powerful people of that era were from the Senju clan.

?
This thread is just telling people why the Senju clan beat the Uchiha, no need to get your pants in a knot bro.
Making trouble where no trouble exists.

 

[realobito1]

Sorry, Senju CLAN was stronger then uchiha CLAN. Unless you can show me a fight where Hashirama is taking on every single Uchiha...


3 of the 4 powerful people of that era were from the Senju clan.

hashirama, madara...who is the third

 

[Gerkak]

Senju were better even if they were alive during the uchiha massacrer they would still be superior

 

[Gerkak]

hashirama, madara...who is the third

Tobirama?....

 

[narutocentral]

Sorry, Senju CLAN was stronger then uchiha CLAN. Unless you can show me a fight where Hashirama is taking on every single Uchiha...


3 of the 4 powerful people of that era were from the Senju clan.

Thats what the guy said.... Hashi for president.

 

[KingHashirama]

hashirama, madara...who is the third

I said "3 of 4 the powerful people of that era were from the Senju clan." I believe you meant to say "Hashirama, Tobirama.. who's the third". Madara isn't from the Senju clan ;p.

But uh Toka Senju is the 3rd one from the Senju.

 

[Darth Vader]

But the Uchiha'a got gameeee.

 

[Bronze]

based on feats, Uchiha > Senju mainly because of Madara + Obito and Shisui KA.

 

[Mitarashi]

I said "3 of 4 the powerful people of that era were from the Senju clan." I believe you meant to say "Hashirama, Tobirama.. who's the third". Madara isn't from the Senju clan ;p.

But uh Toka Senju is the 3rd one from the Senju.

She has 0 Feats.
'Renowned for her Genjutsu'

Just like Hiruzen was.
You can't put someone on the same level as Madara/Hashirama without feats.

I expected better from you, of all people.

 

[ballerjordan]

The Senju clan was superior because they specialized in literally everything. Genjutsu, taijutsu, ninjutsu, you name it.

 

[TrollingSage]

I find this whole "every senju gets huge stamina/vitality whilst not every Uchiha gets Sharingan" argument a load of bs. Ever considered the possibility that just as not every Uchiha gets the sharingan, not every Senju will have bijuu-like stamina likw Hashirama, and even if they did, they'd still have to train their ass off to take advantage of it. Having lots of chakra doesn't automatically make you a beast. You still have to master A and S rank techniques to take advantage of your chakra.
Uchihas on the other hand, get free OP techs with their sharingan. Well MS atleast. Their basic sharingan also allows them to see chakra and predict opponents' moves, making mastering jutsus a piece of cake. I honestly dont know how senju ended being the clan with a thousand skills. Probably laziness on the Uchihas' part.

 

[Mitarashi]

based on feats, Uchiha > Senju mainly because of Madara + Obito and Shisui KA.

I mean as a clan.
Obito's the 10 tails jin, if TENTEN was the ten tails Jin she'd be > everyone, it has nothing to do with him being an Uchiha.

Shisuis's KA is a good move on 1 person, every 10 years.

Madara is a beast, but even he couldn't beast it enough to bring them above the Senju ( to many good Ninja for 1 Super ninja ( Madara ) to even out,)

 

[Joker]

She has 0 Feats.
'Renowned for her Genjutsu'

Just like Hiruzen was.
You can't put someone on the same level as Madara/Hashirama without feats.

I expected better from you, of all people.

0 Feats = More useless than Sakura

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Poor thread.
Beside, only Madara and his bro had MS. No one else.

 

[Xlad]

Hashirama and Tobirama was to the Senju as Madara and Izuna was to the Uchihas. The whole rivalry schpeel, if you noticed, actually has a invisible hierarchy. Not every Senju had life force or KKG on the same level as Hashirama. Same can be said for the Uchihas; Madara and Izuna were known to be the only prominent ones with MS. Not every Uchiha awakened a 3-Tomoe, letting alone MS.

 

[ethris]

We all know that the Senju were stronger than the Uchiha in the past, but why? With only 1 Mokuton user and against multiple MS/3 tomeo Sharingan users and even an EMS user, how did they win?

There a few reasons, and they are simple.

1)

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

This man, Senju Hashirama, Dubbed the God of shinobi, Master of Sage mode and Mokuton, he had an impressive arsenal of attacks, especially this monstrous thing

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Easily able to subdue Bijuu and break Susano'o.. Hashirama was probably 70% of the Senju's might.

2) But even if Hashirama wasn't there, they'd still have an immense advantage over the Uchiha, 2 Jutsu that were available for the Senju and the Senju only-

Shadow clones- It doesn't matter if you have the Sharingan, having 10,000 angry senju bearing down on you from all sides isn't fun, even if you know who's real it's not going to stop the others from stabbing you.

Edo tensi- Far from perfected, but still extremely formidable, Tobirama Senju proves his worth again by bringing around a jutsu that probably changed the tide of many battles, Imagine having to face Undead, Invincible Uchiha that were once your kin, if they'd managed to get hold of a dead MS user it'd be catastrophic.

3) The sages gifts.
We know the Uchiha got Sharingan, and the Senju got the 'Body and spirit' of the sage, but this un-fair when you think about it.

Most of the Uchiha had their 3tomeo or lower Sharingan, whilst only a few had the power of the MS and 1 had the EMS, EVERY senju had impressive vitality, most had enormous strength and all were fierce shinobi, Unless you were a VERY skilled 3T sharingan user or you had MS/EMS, you were immediately outclassed in a battle with a Senju.

End result?
The Senju, for the most part, had better jutsu, stronger bodies and a leader who was strong beyond belief.

madaras dad didnt have ems or ms. i dont think anyone in the clan had ms at that point besides madara and izuna who gained it at a point very later in time. and my point being madaras dad who didnt have ms or ems was on par with hashis dad...so i dont think the 3 tome is the lack of there strength