Kisame Is Underrated (Details Inside)

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Very nice thread; He isn't too badly underrated as before though....

Killer Bee>Kisame >.>..

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Naruto is the only shinobi coming to mind who could do such a thing... while I agree it's capable of being avoided, if acted quickly upon. That was not the best example.
 

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well ................. kakuzu indeed is a powerhouse (got trolled hard) but i agree he can't handle kisame (would be a good fight though).

how i rank the top 3 akatsuki members powerwise (not including obito) :

1. nagato.
2. itachi.
3. kisame/sasori (i seriously believe sasori got trolled hard, really really hard) you can pick any of these two for the third position, fine by me.

I agree but I don't think sasori is tied with kisame bro

IMO
1. obito
2. nagato
3. itachi
4. kisame
5. deidara
6. sasori/kakuzu
7. kakuzu/sasori
8. konan
9. hidan
10. zetsu

Kisame is a boss.

I agree

This has been covered before already. He's top 20, #4 akatsuki.

counting obito??
 

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Very nice thread; He isn't too badly underrated as before though....

Killer Bee>Kisame >.>..

@Woodson

Naruto is the only shinobi coming to mind who could do such a thing... while I agree it's capable of being avoided, if acted quickly upon. That was not the best example.

Im fully aware naruto is practically the only person who is capable of pulling that off but thats not what i meant. I was getting at sheer numbers can be counter to kisame in the dome in terms of distractions of some sort.
 

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I agree but I don't think sasori is tied with kisame bro

IMO
1. obito
2. nagato
3. itachi
4. kisame
5. deidara
6. sasori/kakuzu
7. kakuzu/sasori
8. konan
9. hidan
10. zetsu

didn't deidara already admit that sasori was stronger than him ?? :erm:
 

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Lol? kakash warps to kamui world thus escapes water dome. Simple as it gets.

FTG will work as long as the kunai is outside of the water dome.

You misunderstand the clone examples. Im saying if the victim has sheer numbers like naruto for examples, he can make 1000 clones in the water dome leaving kisame distracted and can easily swim the opposite direction escaping the dome..

Kakashi has only been confirm to warp himself OUT of the dimension, and warp things inside, the dome is water, I doubt kakashi can warp so much messy water.

Don't you think this much water will move a simple kunai?? I told you space time barrier will work though

Only someone like naruto would be able to pull something like that off, and like I said clones die fast. And kisame can move fast in water while his opponent have to swim to get away while they cant breathe

Very nice thread; He isn't too badly underrated as before though....

Killer Bee>Kisame >.>..

I agree killer bee>kisame, I said kisame owned V2 killer bee, but not full hachibi
 

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Kakashi has only been confirm to warp himself OUT of the dimension, and warp things inside, the dome is water, I doubt kakashi can warp so much messy water.

Don't you think this much water will move a simple kunai?? I told you space time barrier will work though

Only someone like naruto would be able to pull something like that off, and like I said clones die fast. And kisame can move fast in water while his opponent have to swim to get away while they cant breathe

Lol? dont tell me your one of those people that think he cant warp to kamui world? He has already shown to be able to warp out of it. It's common sense that he can warp to the dimension as well. I mean honestly now?

The thing is he isnt warping the water. his focus is on his body. I already explained my reasoning regarding the sheer numbers distraction.
 

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when? I thought deidara was just being respectful towards sasori

can't remember the chapter that's why i asked XD but ya deidara is not the kind of guy who would really show respect to anyone (specially when he has to admit inferiority) so looking at both their abilities + the hype + the statement and i can't help but think that sasori is indeed superior.
 

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Kisame is fodder.

Fodder: A term who's roots tie in with the following: Feed for cattle.

The term as it is used on Narutobase stems from the concept of the phrase "Cannon Fodder."

Cannon Fodder- refers to a mass amount of armed militant forces that are expendable due to them being inexperienced, and having a superior quantity of them compared to the opposing force.


Example: Union forces during the U.S. Civil War

In combat, a force with vastly superior numbers, General Ulysses S. Grant could simply use his men to take a hill, or storm a fort. The encroached Confederate soldiers would burn through their reserves of ammunition and cannon shells long before the Union forces would be depleted.


So really, a "Cannon Fodder" is a term used to describe on in a mass of expendable ordinary combat forces.



Narutobase derives this term to generally apply to "weak" people; however, even then you are incorrect. Kisame was far from weak considering he defeated Roshi's Lava style with simple Suiton, was capable of defeating Bee who destroyed Sasuke at the time, and Kisame was only defeated by using the Seventh Inner Gate which would only be used on the most elite tier Shinobi.

AKA: People Above "Fodder" Levels

So be careful when you use words... they have meanings and definitions behind them :hint:!
 
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Lol? dont tell me your one of those people that think he cant warp to kamui world? He has already shown to be able to warp out of it. It's common sense that he can warp to the dimension as well. I mean honestly now?

The thing is he isnt warping the water. his focus is on his body. I already explained my reasoning regarding the sheer numbers distraction.

Its not common sense, kakashi cant do everything obito does, if that was the case kakashi should be intangible too right?? when kakashi warps himself inside the dimension then ill accept his counter to water dome.

And like I said again, naruto is the only person who would be capable to doing this, and naruto is top 5 so its not like kisame should be shamed by this. ANd once again clones die fast, how will the clones run the opposite way if their dying?? this isn't normal water that their swimming in, kisame's chakra is inside the dome
 

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Only dumb people would says hes weak he might be top 15 not top 20.
 

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can't remember the chapter that's why i asked XD but ya deidara is not the kind of guy who would really show respect to anyone (specially when he has to admit inferiority) so looking at both their abilities + the hype + the statement and i can't help but think that sasori is indeed superior.

deidara was respectful to sasori because that was his partner for years, just like itachi had respect for kisame but itachi was stronger.

Only dumb people would says hes weak he might be top 15 not top 20.

He's my top 15.

there is a chance that he's top 15 but I seriously doubt it
 

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Its not common sense, kakashi cant do everything obito does, if that was the case kakashi should be intangible too right?? when kakashi warps himself inside the dimension then ill accept his counter to water dome.

And like I said again, naruto is the only person who would be capable to doing this, and naruto is top 5 so its not like kisame should be shamed by this. ANd once again clones die fast, how will the clones run the opposite way if their dying?? this isn't normal water that their swimming in, kisame's chakra is inside the dome

Lol? really? he showed the capability of warping out of kamui? Your trying to argue against logic to make your arguments sound better. Give me one good reason why he couldnt warp to the kamui world except for he cant because he is not obito crap :|

sigh.. i know naruto is the only person capable of pulling off 1000 clowns but once again like i said that wasnt my opponent. What I meant someone who gets trapped in the dome can use a method of sheer numbers obviously not 1000 clones but a diversion to throw kisame off. 1000 clones are not necessary.
 

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deidara was respectful to sasori because that was his partner for years, just like itachi had respect for kisame but itachi was stronger.

there is a difference between respect and admitting inferiority, itachi never said anything about kisame being stronger :eww:

like i said deidara is not that kind of guy, he wouldn't say BS just to show respect (specially if what you said was true and that he was stronger).
 
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Practically any s/t user can.

minato - ftg
obito-kamui
kakashi-kamui

also theirs diversion plans as demonstrated where the victim can make clones or multiple his number by a means thus allowing him to escape while kisame is busy with the distraction ( the clones or whatever )

Hows FTG going to help him when he's in the dome :|

How's Kamui going to help, pretty sure he's not Warping it all without Dying

And Obito can do it thats about it


Lol Kisame is a boss
 

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Hows FTG going to help him when he's in the dome :|

How's Kamui going to help, pretty sure he's not Warping it all without Dying

And Obito can do it thats about it


Lol Kisame is a boss

lol?

If their is FTG kunai outside of the water dome, minato can warp to the kunai thus warping out of the dome :| Not too mention if minatos kage bushins happen to be outside of the dome they can warp him out of it as well.

Lol? how long do you think kamui takes? kakashi warps to kamui world and his out of the dome. thats that.
 
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