Is Naruto a better strategist than Shikaku?

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I think Shikaku is the only one who is even in Naruto's level at this point, after he figured out a way to beat Pain and now how he was the only one to figure out a way to help the SA survive the TBBs from Juubito inside the barrier.
 

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No he is not. Shikamaru and Shikaku are better. It's just that Shikamaru didn't know about Minato's FTG and how his chakra was connected to everybody.
 

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No he is not. Shikamaru and Shikaku are better. It's just that Shikamaru didn't know about Minato's FTG and how his chakra was connected to everybody.

Shikamaru also didn't figure out Pain's abilities.
 

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It's great that he can think on the fly and figure out a way to defeat his opponents one-on-one. But Shikaku create military strategies for 1000s of ninja on multiple battlefields at once.
 

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no the opposite it is true that naruto is good strategist but not better than Shikaku
 

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Naruto is smart in battle, Lol
 

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Naruto always had the info and Kurama's help. If Shikamaru had that, he would do the same. Heck, even Sakura could do it.
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Naruto also figured out how to beat Zabuza's Water clone and save Kakashi in the first arc when he was the weakest ninja in the world. He is a strategy beast.
 

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Naruto also figured out how to beat Zabuza's Water clone and save Kakashi in the first arc when he was the weakest ninja in the world. He is a strategy beast.

Shikaku would have deciphered it much quicker if he were in Naruto's place though.
 

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So if shikamaru had intel, he would have beat pain?

No I mean, Shikamaru would have found out how his jutsus worked but would have lost. I'm just saying no matter the result, Shikamaru would have found out their abilities.
 

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Look... Both if those times are when Naruto was GIVEN information.


Pain: Kakashi died figuring out the interval, Jiraiya died to say the real Pain isn't there, Katsuyu relayed the abilities such as Preta Path.

Biju Bombs: Only Naruto and Sasuke were told how FTG operates, only Naruto... Likely via Kurama, Knew that the chakra cloaks were still attached (Katsuyu said nothing to inform others).



Shikaku: Micro managed the alliances positions to counter every front: Ino Shika Cho to the lightning coast, deploying the Fifth division in a support belt, reinforcing the first division, using the Fourth division in retreat to trick the Edo Kage, with only two days of co-operation managed to trap the first stage Juubi, by listening to Kakadhi had Naruto create the chakra cloak power up.


Shikamaru: Analysed Temari's abilities and eventually trapped her. Managed to plan formations that trapped Hidan thrice, and Kakuzu once. He couldn't save the alliance because 1. He didn't know how FTG works, 2. Didn't know the cloaks still existed, 3. Was outside of a range to see what is even happening (Byakugan requires), 4. As such couldn't see Senjutsu works.



Those two are far better at thinking and strategizing. Naruto's genius comes when adapting to an opponent such as Kakuzu, Pain, and Neji
 

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So if shikamaru had intel, he would have beat pain?

If you give Shikamaru all of Naruto's powers during the Pain fight along with Jiraiya's intel, Shikamaru would have lost simply because he wouldn't have figured out the Six Paths of Pain and how to counter them and win. Naruto is simply at another level strategically.
 

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No I mean, Shikamaru would have found out how his jutsus worked but would have lost. I'm just saying no matter the result, Shikamaru would have found out their abilities.
pain killed shikamaru in few second.
 

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So..because you teleport makes you top Noks Intellst!
 

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Look... Both if those times are when Naruto was GIVEN information.


Pain: Kakashi died figuring out the interval, Jiraiya died to say the real Pain isn't there, Katsuyu relayed the abilities such as Preta Path.

Biju Bombs: Only Naruto and Sasuke were told how FTG operates, only Naruto... Likely via Kurama, Knew that the chakra cloaks were still attached (Katsuyu said nothing to inform others).



Shikaku: Micro managed the alliances positions to counter every front: Ino Shika Cho to the lightning coast, deploying the Fifth division in a support belt, reinforcing the first division, using the Fourth division in retreat to trick the Edo Kage, with only two days of co-operation managed to trap the first stage Juubi, by listening to Kakadhi had Naruto create the chakra cloak power up.


Shikamaru: Analysed Temari's abilities and eventually trapped her. Managed to plan formations that trapped Hidan thrice, and Kakuzu once. He couldn't save the alliance because 1. He didn't know how FTG works, 2. Didn't know the cloaks still existed, 3. Was outside of a range to see what is even happening (Byakugan requires), 4. As such couldn't see Senjutsu works.



Those two are far better at thinking and strategizing. Naruto's genius comes when adapting to an opponent such as Kakuzu, Pain, and Neji
naruto analysed kakashi weakness. naruto analysed gaara weakness. naruto analysed 3 raikage weakness.
 

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pain killed shikamaru in few second.
That's not the point I'm making, I'm saying Shikamaru would have found out his abilities.
If you give Shikamaru all of Naruto's powers during the Pain fight along with Jiraiya's intel, Shikamaru would have lost simply because he wouldn't have figured out the Six Paths of Pain and how to counter them and win. Naruto is simply at another level strategically.

But you need to remember if Pain had intent to kill, Naruto would have lost as well. So of course Shikamaru would lose.
 
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