[Spoilers] Naruto 458 (More Detailed Spoilers)

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Dialogue by stream

458 The great debate of the five kage

Gaara: I will talk, listen
Earth: The five kages have changed a lot, if you can be a kage so young. Kazekage, your father was a wonderful leader, but he seems not to have taught you manners. (Ain't that the truth)
Gaara: probably... That's why I am the Kazekage here
Earth: Gwa ha ha ha, cheeky fellow!!
Water: Tsuchikage-sama, do not interrupt. Please go on, Kazekage-sama
Gaara: I'm a former Jinchuuriki. I was abducted by Akatsuki and almost killed when they extracted the bijuu.

Temari, Kankurou are looking in the conversation
Kankurou: What's with the Tsuchikage!
Temari: Be quiet

Gaara: That's why, thinking of the extreme threat posed by Akatsuki, I made many requests for the five kage to collaborate, but I was ignored. ...Apart from the former Hokage. Now that Jinchuuriki have been taken, it is too late to collaborate.
Earth: Huh... The Jinchuuriki of the hidden villages of the five great countries have been taken. What would it show to other countries is they knew. We would be ashamed! It is common sense to keep our secrets. Now that they have been taken, the assistance of other countries cannot be counted on!!

Gaara: Keeping appearances... Honor... That is stupid ancient thinking
Earth: (huh... What a brat...)

Water: The fact they have been taken should be a cause of alarm. To control them, we need techniques, knowledge, and time.
Earth: The Jinchuuriki grow with the bijuu. They need to adapt. And even then their control is difficult... Not to say impossible... Isn't it?... Kazekage...
Gaara: ...
Danzou: In the first place, the only people who could ever control bijuus in the true sense were Uchiha Madara and the first Hokage, Hashirama... And the fourth Mizukage, Yagura ...There was also the brother of the Raikage, Killer Bee, but...

Fire and Water minders react.
RAIKAGE BREAKS THE TABLE!! (YEAH! )
Raikage: Enough with all this useless chatter!!
All the minders move in to calm him down
A strike, another strike stopping it. We can see Kankurou's puppet

Mifune: This is a meeting, people. Mind your manners
Danzou: Calm down, Fuu, Rune.
Gaara: You too, Kankurou, Temari.
Water: Aoi (?), Chojiro, no problem...
Earth nods to Aka- and Kurozuchi

Raikage: Konoha! Rock! Sand! Cloud! Akatsuki is made of missing-nins from you villages! And that's not all!! Your predecessor kages included, there are some among you who have made use of Akatsuki before!!
Gaara: Made use...?
Raikage: I cannot trust you all! I did not want to talk to you at all! But I came, and I called you here, to ask your word!!
Gaara: What do you mean, made use of Akatsuki!?
Raikage: They didn't tell you anything, even though you're the Kazekage? Ask the old-timers of your village! You used Akatsuki in previous battles!
Earth: ...

STILL COMING

Earth: The great countries are all at peace now... We have switched from the armament race to disarmament. With the tension between countries, the risk of battle has diminished. For the countries, the military forces are now a costly burden... But there is still a risk of sudden wars! It is a problem to rely on shinobis without combat experience, you lose battles that way
Gaara: To avoid this risk, one way is groups of mercenaries... That is what Akatsuki was, then?
Earth: It takes times and money to raise good shinobis in our village, but Akatsuki, whose occupation is to always fight, is a team of professionals. But for not much money, they gave superior results!
Raikage: Don't be so defiant, Tsuchikage!
Earth: Huh!
Raikage: The sand used Akatsuki to attack Konoha, that's Orochimaru...! It is unclear whether at that time, he had left Akatsuki or not! And the former Hokage and Kazekage died
Raikage: I would like to be sure nobody schemed all this
Raikage looks at Danzou (perceptive, ain't he?)

Raikage: (...Old racoon...)
Raikage: The most suspicious of all is hidden mist!! You have no diplomatic relations... There are rumors that Akatsuki started there!!
Water: ...

Water: Since we're at that point, I'll say it clearly...
Aoi: Could the fifth (Mizukage) mean that...!
Water: The previous kage... There are suspicions that the fourth mizukage could have been manipulated by someone... It may well have been by Akatsuki... That's why I did not want to talk about it...
Raikage: All of you...!!
Earth: ...!!

Earth: Mind your tongue, Raikage! Even though this is a time of disarmament, you are not follwing, and are gathering forces and techniques... Maybe you hired Akatsuki too
Raikage: What!!
Danzou: Before you start bickering, there is something I wanted to say to all of you...
Raikage: What!?
Danzou: The leader of Akatsuki is probably Uchiha Madara

Four others: !?
Earth: That guy surely died long ago...!?
Danzou: We don't know that for sure... but we have pretty clear information
Earth: Was he really such a monster?...

Mifune: From the point of view of a neutral country, I'll say this. The leader of Akatsuki has read how the times were going... Peaceful countries... And has magnified the distrust between countries... Even in the iron country... But this has turned to our good fortune... Did the five kage not gather, for once? Until Akatsuki is destroyed... The hidden villages of the five greatest countries in the world... could form a joint alliance.
Raikage: An alliance!?
Danou: ...Good plan. We need a collaboration equal to the emergency (...going the right way)
Mifune: It is desirable to have a unified command, in order to minimize the confusion
Earth: Then... The problem is, whom do we entrust the authority over the alliance...
Mifune: There is disagreement between you... As a neutral country, our choice would be more respected. I would like to propose who would be the best among the five kage.
Danzou: The ear of Tsunade is now over

Final part
Sakura's tent
Sakura: Naruto...!
Sai: Yes... To protect Sasuke, he got badly hurt... But he couldn't sell Sasuke. And then... He did not tell you, so as not to make you worry
Sakura: ...
Sakura: (Naruto...)
Sai: Now he's gone to ask the Raikage to forgive Sasuke... It's probably hopeless...
Shizune: But why be so reckless? Kakashi is with him
Sai: Kakashi-sensei trusts Naruto. I think that even though it was hopeless, he wanted to create a chance
Shizune looks at sleeping Tsunade
Sai: I was initially assigned to Kakashi's team to replace Sasuke, so that's why I don't understand them too well... ...I don't understand people's feelings too well either

Sai thinks of his talk with Naruto
Naruto: (...I can't even keep my promises...)
Sai: And I don't know what was your promise with Naruto...
Sakura: ...!
Sakura remembers the promise
(Naruto... It's my wish of a lifetime... Please, bring back Sasuke-kun)
Sai: But... That Naruto really likes you... Even me, I can tell that!!
Sakura: ...!!

Sakura's flashback (yay...)
Small Naruto: Sakura-chan Likes Sasuke a lot...
Tears in her eyes
Small Naruto: I know that Sakura-chan is hurting so much, it's painful... I will definitely bring him back home! It's my promise in a lifetime!!
Tears are flowing from her eyes
Small Naruto: ...Sakura-chan! I... will definitely keep my promise. I don't change back on my word. That is my way of the ninja...
Sakura: Wa... ha...
Okay, she's crying

Shizune: Sakura...
Sakura: Uh...
Sai: Naruto is suffering because of Sasuke but... what about you?
Sakura realizing

Back to the meeting
Mifune: Now, only Konoha has a Jinchuuriki... The way he's guided is the key... So how about giving the supreme command of the alliance to the Hokage?

Gaara: ...
Raikage: What!?
Earth: Huh!?
Will the meeting be a carnage...!?

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Here's the page with some pics I can't post links yet
thecmelion.deviantart.com/art/Naruto-458-spoiler-pics-131338361]Naruto 458 spoiler pics by ~Thecmelion on deviantARt
I'm shocked that Yagura was the Mizukage I wonder if he lost the 3 tails cuz of Madara. Alot of things happen during his reign cuz thats when the civil war broke out
 

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Here's the page with some pics I can't post links yet
thecmelion.deviantart.com/art/Naruto-458-spoiler-pics-131338361]Naruto 458 spoiler pics by ~Thecmelion on deviantARt
I'm shocked that Yagura was the Mizukage I wonder if he lost the 3 tails cuz of Madara. Alot of things happen during his reign cuz thats when the civil war broke out
why can't you post the link yet, you are lying...
 

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So Yagura and Kirabi/ Killer Bee can control biju but are they talking about complete control over there own taild-beast within them or about controlling all beast's like the shodaime and Madara
 

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well then this supports the theory about kirabi helping naruto with kyuubi
i wnat now what happened to Yagura
we now that Zabuza tried to kill him but failed.
what else
how, only few know how to control their power, is a power within them, like a blood line..
Who teach killer bee..
 

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how, only few know how to control their power, is a power within them, like a blood line..
Who teach killer bee..
i think its something you learn throut effort since if it where like blood line most jinchuriky would have died at there first use of the taild form .( when i say die him refering to being taken over )
 

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anyone else notice anything different bout kankuros puppet.........

it's hand resembles that of sasoris human puppet.......maybe it can shoot water,fire and wind now???

he's def. gotten a new toy.......now im eager to see some of his abilities.......i always kinda thought he would inherit chiyos famous (10??) jutsu
 

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Anyone else think it's weird how shocked Sakura sounded when Sai told her Naruto likes her?

Is she really just a dumb broad after all?
 

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anyone else notice anything different bout kankuros puppet.........

it's hand resembles that of sasoris human puppet.......maybe it can shoot water,fire and wind now???

he's def. gotten a new toy.......now im eager to see some of his abilities.......i always kinda thought he would inherit chiyos famous (10??) jutsu
Wel it def looks like the Sasori's puppet.. but the thing to look out for is can he use all of Sasori's abilities.. I don't think so he can.. caz he can't use 100 puppets at 1 time as yet... n I think u need a lot of training n exprerience for that.. plus more than 2 hands... U r rite.. may b 10 is max he cud use.. 1 with each finger.. not to mention 3rd Kazekage's Iron sand.. that wud b a huge plus in battles
 

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Wel it def looks like the Sasori's puppet.. but the thing to look out for is can he use all of Sasori's abilities.. I don't think so he can.. caz he can't use 100 puppets at 1 time as yet... n I think u need a lot of training n exprerience for that.. plus more than 2 hands... U r rite.. may b 10 is max he cud use.. 1 with each finger.. not to mention 3rd Kazekage's Iron sand.. that wud b a huge plus in battles
Sasori had skill using puppets, Kankuro's skill wont be much bigger using sasori as a puppet. An expert with a stone kills a novice with a kunai atleast that is what Kakashi said :kakashi:
 

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I think things have been embelished a lot here.

The amount of writing covers a possible 5 chapters.

Most chapters have 2 paragraphs of standard writing TOPS.

Pick a manga, say 457, and write down its script in the same format as above-itd be a lot shorter.

As to kankarou's sasori puppet having sasoris powers-no, that'd be retarded because the 3rd kazekage was considered the strongest ever, and sasori beat him, of akatsuki status (usually kage level or higher) meaning kankurou should be kazekage-not gaara.

Also im pretty sure zetsu was asked to dispose of sasori, then again it wouldnt be the first time for a storyline hole to randomly appear.
 

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I think things have been embelished a lot here.

The amount of writing covers a possible 5 chapters.

Most chapters have 2 paragraphs of standard writing TOPS.

Pick a manga, say 457, and write down its script in the same format as above-itd be a lot shorter.

As to kankarou's sasori puppet having sasoris powers-no, that'd be retarded because the 3rd kazekage was considered the strongest ever, and sasori beat him, of akatsuki status (usually kage level or higher) meaning kankurou should be kazekage-not gaara.

Also im pretty sure zetsu was asked to dispose of sasori, then again it wouldnt be the first time for a storyline hole to randomly appear.
gaara is at kazekage lvl, remember he lost his beast
but in the fight bewteen him and deidara he din't use his beast, and now he got a lot stronger.
 

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gaara is at kazekage lvl, remember he lost his beast
but in the fight bewteen him and deidara he din't use his beast, and now he got a lot stronger.
I know gaaras at kazekage level, but so was sasori (considering he beat the strongest ever known kazekage-the 3rd) and therefore if the sasori puppet kankurou has has all of sasori's powers, that means kankurou is now at kazekage level +.

Gaara appears to be calling the shots, ergo, the sasori puppet does not have most of its powerful jutsus.

How do you magically suddenly know he's got a lot stronger??

This is the first time we've seen him since the rescue gaara arc and suddenly you know his strengths have increased??
 
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