[Spoilers] Naruto 458 Confirmed

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出かけるんで簡単に ノ
背表紙 大和でした><

暁という傭兵軍団を作ったのは各国の相談役ら
暁を使って金儲けをしていた土影
閉鎖して何をしているのかわからない国と突っ込まれる五代目水影
(これは四代目水影のせい・・ここで五代目が四代目は何者かに操られていた可能性が?と暴露)
暁を使って木の葉崩しをもくろんだ砂(まあガアラの親父)
その相談役らに口出ししてたんじゃないかと疑われる火影(ダンゾウはだんまり)
雷影が他の五影に怒りをぶちまける
尾獣をコントロールできたのは まだら・初代火影・四代目水影・キラービー

そして中立国が意見を出し
五国連合軍などを作ってみたらいかがでしょうか?
そこでまだ尾獣がいる国の火影(他は奪われたから駄目って事)が総指揮をとるのは
どうでしょうか~? といい雷影が なんだと!?

と言った所で完です   

四代目水影の顔(やさ男)が出てきましたが(尾獣コントロールの話に)これは
トビ=四代目水影って事でおk?(鬼鮫が 元水影様でしたか っていってたから



Source from manga helpers


Source: NF
Verification: Confirmed
Credits: Stream

Yamato on the cover

Those who created the mercenary organization called Akatsuki were advisors of different countries. They were making money (earth kage).
They stopped that, and it is unknown what they are doing now (5th mizukage)
(It's the fault of the 4th mizukage... Here, the 5th reveals the 4th was likely manipulated by someone)
The sand tried to use Akatsuki to destroy Konoha (Gaara's father)
The hokage says they are sure talking a lot (Danzou's shutting up)
The Raikage gets angry at the others kage
Those that could control bijuus were Madara, the first Hokage, the fourth Mizukage, and Killer Bee.

The neutral country gives an idea:
How about an alliance of the five countries?
With the hokage, whose country still has the bijuu as supreme commander?
The Raikage says "what!?" and it stops there.

We see the face of the 4th mizukage (nice man) when they talk of people able to control bijuus. Wasn't that supposed to be Tobi? At least Kisame said so (didn't say it was the 4th though, might have been the 3rd)


In Detail:
1st Part

Gaara: I will talk, listen
Earth: The five kages have changed a lot, if you can be a kage so young. Kazekage, your father was a wonderful leader, but he seems not to have taught you manners. (Ain't that the truth)
Gaara: probably... That's why I am the Kazekage here
Earth: Gwa ha ha ha, cheeky fellow!!
Water: Tsuchikage-sama, do not interrupt. Please go on, Kazekage-sama
Gaara: I'm a former Jinchuuriki. I was abducted by Akatsuki and almost killed when they extracted the bijuu.

Temari, Kankurou are looking in the conversation
Kankurou: What's with the Tsuchikage!
Temari: Be quiet

Gaara: That's why, thinking of the extreme threat posed by Akatsuki, I made many requests for the five kage to collaborate, but I was ignored. ...Apart from the former Hokage. Now that Jinchuuriki have been taken, it is too late to collaborate.
Earth: Huh... The Jinchuuriki of the hidden villages of the five great countries have been taken. What would it show to other countries is they knew. We would be ashamed! It is common sense to keep our secrets. Now that they have been taken, the assistance of other countries cannot be counted on!!

Gaara: Keeping appearances... Honor... That is stupid ancient thinking
Earth: (huh... What a brat...)



2nd part

Water: The fact they have been taken should be a cause of alarm. To control them, we need techniques, knowledge, and time.
Earth: The Jinchuuriki grow with the bijuu. They need to adapt. And even then their control is difficult... Not to say impossible... Isn't it?... Kazekage...
Gaara: ...
Danzou: In the first place, the only people who could ever control bijuus in the true sense were Uchiha Madara and the first Hokage, Hashirama... And the fourth Mizukage, Yagura ...There was also the brother of the Raikage, Killer Bee, but...

Fire and Water minders react.
RAIKAGE BREAKS THE TABLE!! (YEAH! )
Raikage: Enough with all this useless chatter!!
All the minders move in to calm him down
A strike, another strike stopping it. We can see Kankurou's puppet

Mifune: This is a meeting, people. Mind your manners
Danzou: Calm down, Fuu, Rune.
Gaara: You too, Kankurou, Temari.
Water: Aoi (?), Chojiro, no problem...
Earth nods to Aka- and Kurozuchi

Raikage: Konoha! Rock! Sand! Cloud! Akatsuki is made of missing-nins from you villages! And that's not all!! Your predecessor kages included, there are some among you who have made use of Akatsuki before!!
Gaara: Made use...?
Raikage: I cannot trust you all! I did not want to talk to you at all! But I came, and I called you here, to ask your word!!
Gaara: What do you mean, made use of Akatsuki!?
Raikage: They didn't tell you anything, even though you're the Kazekage? Ask the old-timers of your village! You used Akatsuki in previous battles!
Earth: ...


3rd part

Earth: The great countries are all at peace now... We have switched from the armament race to disarmament. With the tension between countries, the risk of battle has diminished. For the countries, the military forces are now a costly burden... But there is still a risk of sudden wars! It is a problem to rely on shinobis without combat experience, you lose battles that way
Gaara: To avoid this risk, one way is groups of mercenaries... That is what Akatsuki was, then?
Earth: It takes times and money to raise good shinobis in our village, but Akatsuki, whose occupation is to always fight, is a team of professionals. But for not much money, they gave superior results!
Raikage: Don't be so defiant, Tsuchikage!
Earth: Huh!
Raikage: The sand used Akatsuki to attack Konoha, that's Orochimaru...! It is unclear whether at that time, he had left Akatsuki or not! And the former Hokage and Kazekage died
Raikage: I would like to be sure nobody schemed all this
Raikage looks at Danzou (perceptive, ain't he?)

Raikage: (...Old racoon...)
Raikage: The most suspicious of all is hidden mist!! You have no diplomatic relations... There are rumors that Akatsuki started there!!
Water: ...

Water: Since we're at that point, I'll say it clearly...
Aoi: Could the fifth (Mizukage) mean that...!
Water: The previous kage... There are suspicions that the fourth mizukage could have been manipulated by someone... It may well have been by Akatsuki... That's why I did not want to talk about it...
Raikage: All of you...!!
Earth: ...!!


4th parth
Earth: Mind your tongue, Raikage! Even though this is a time of disarmament, you are not follwing, and are gathering forces and techniques... Maybe you hired Akatsuki too
Raikage: What!!
Danzou: Before you start bickering, there is something I wanted to say to all of you...
Raikage: What!?
Danzou: The leader of Akatsuki is probably Uchiha Madara

Four others: !?

Earth: That guy surely died long ago...!?
Danzou: We don't know that for sure... but we have pretty clear information
Earth: Was he really such a monster?...

Mifune: From the point of view of a neutral country, I'll say this. The leader of Akatsuki has read how the times were going... Peaceful countries... And has magnified the distrust between countries... Even in the iron country... But this has turned to our good fortune... Did the five kage not gather, for once? Until Akatsuki is destroyed... The hidden villages of the five greatest countries in the world... could form a joint alliance.
Raikage: An alliance!?
Danou: ...Good plan. We need a collaboration equal to the emergency (...going the right way)
Mifune: It is desirable to have a unified command, in order to minimize the confusion
Earth: Then... The problem is, whom do we entrust the authority over the alliance...
Mifune: There is disagreement between you... As a neutral country, our choice would be more respected. I would like to propose who would be the best among the five kage.
Danzou: The ear of Tsunade is now over


Final part
Sakura's tent

Sakura: Naruto...!
Sai: Yes... To protect Sasuke, he got badly hurt... But he couldn't sell Sasuke. And then... He did not tell you, so as not to make you worry
Sakura: ...
Sakura: (Naruto...)
Sai: Now he's gone to ask the Raikage to forgive Sasuke... It's probably hopeless...
Shizune: But why be so reckless? Kakashi is with him
Sai: Kakashi-sensei trusts Naruto. I think that even though it was hopeless, he wanted to create a chance
Shizune looks at sleeping Tsunade
Sai: I was initially assigned to Kakashi's team to replace Sasuke, so that's why I don't understand them too well... ...I don't understand people's feelings too well either

Sai thinks of his talk with Naruto
Naruto: (...I can't even keep my promises...)
Sai: And I don't know what was your promise with Naruto...
Sakura: ...!
Sakura remembers the promise
(Naruto... It's my wish of a lifetime... Please, bring back Sasuke-kun)
Sai: But... That Naruto really likes you... Even me, I can tell that!!
Sakura: ...!!

Sakura's flashback (yay...)
Small Naruto: Sakura-chan Likes Sasuke a lot...
Tears in her eyes
Small Naruto: I know that Sakura-chan is hurting so much, it's painful... I will definitely bring him back home! It's my promise in a lifetime!!
Tears are flowing from her eyes
Small Naruto: ...Sakura-chan! I... will definitely keep my promise. I don't change back on my word. That is my way of the ninja...
Sakura: Wa... ha...
Okay, she's crying

Shizune: Sakura...
Sakura: Uh...
Sai: Naruto is suffering because of Sasuke but... what about you?
Sakura realizing

Back to the meeting
Mifune: Now, only Konoha has a Jinchuuriki... The way he's guided is the key... So how about giving the supreme command of the alliance to the Hokage?

Gaara: ...
Raikage: What!?
Earth: Huh!?

Will the meeting be a carnage...!?

That's all folks.


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so tobi=yondaime mizukage

other kage is benifiting from akatsuki? i guess other country has or had relation to the akatsuki plus yondaime mizukage is also involve.

thanks anyway.
 

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hmm, so kisame calling madara the mizukage is probably falling into place in this upcoming manga.
yeah and maibe will now the awser to the Danzo = Tobi question finnaly im getting tired of talking about it and perhaps people will let Obito rest in peace plus the comparing faces
 

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Thanks a lot

I can wait til Friday but I won't enjoy waiting.

I'm wondering if the fact that 2-3 jinchuuriki's were abandoned by their villages when Akatsuki came for them would come up.

Thats the Gobi, Rokubi and Shichibi from the hidden villages of Rock, Mist and Waterfall respectively, meaning that at least one the kage's at the summit is at fault.
 

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Well...its says that the Mizukage (now) thinks that the 4th Mizukage was being manipulated by someone.

So maybe Madara was the one manipulating him, not the Mizukage himself. So Kisame called Madara the Mizukage because he was the one making all the decisions, even though he wasn't the real Mizukage. (Like how he was the leader of Akatsuki, but didn't want anyone to know it, so he used Pain as the "leader")
 

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Well...its says that the Mizukage (now) thinks that the 4th Mizukage was being manipulated by someone.

So maybe Madara was the one manipulating him, not the Mizukage himself. So Kisame called Madara the Mizukage because he was the one making all the decisions, even though he wasn't the real Mizukage. (Like how he was the leader of Akatsuki, but didn't want anyone to know it, so he used Pain as the "leader")
good thinking there it really is like him to do that
 

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Well...its says that the Mizukage (now) thinks that the 4th Mizukage was being manipulated by someone.

So maybe Madara was the one manipulating him, not the Mizukage himself. So Kisame called Madara the Mizukage because he was the one making all the decisions, even though he wasn't the real Mizukage. (Like how he was the leader of Akatsuki, but didn't want anyone to know it, so he used Pain as the "leader")
Good point, maybe Madara is manipulating Tobi,^^
 

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Well...its says that the Mizukage (now) thinks that the 4th Mizukage was being manipulated by someone.

So maybe Madara was the one manipulating him, not the Mizukage himself. So Kisame called Madara the Mizukage because he was the one making all the decisions, even though he wasn't the real Mizukage. (Like how he was the leader of Akatsuki, but didn't want anyone to know it, so he used Pain as the "leader")
or like pain use one of his bodys to all the aka meeting
 

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Here's a more detailed spoiler:

Dialogue by stream

458 The great debate of the five kage

Gaara: I will talk, listen
Earth: The five kages have changed a lot, if you can be a kage so young. Kazekage, your father was a wonderful leader, but he seems not to have taught you manners. (Ain't that the truth)
Gaara: probably... That's why I am the Kazekage here
Earth: Gwa ha ha ha, cheeky fellow!!
Water: Tsuchikage-sama, do not interrupt. Please go on, Kazekage-sama
Gaara: I'm a former Jinchuuriki. I was abducted by Akatsuki and almost killed when they extracted the bijuu.

Temari, Kankurou are looking in the conversation
Kankurou: What's with the Tsuchikage!
Temari: Be quiet

Gaara: That's why, thinking of the extreme threat posed by Akatsuki, I made many requests for the five kage to collaborate, but I was ignored. ...Apart from the former Hokage. Now that Jinchuuriki have been taken, it is too late to collaborate.
Earth: Huh... The Jinchuuriki of the hidden villages of the five great countries have been taken. What would it show to other countries is they knew. We would be ashamed! It is common sense to keep our secrets. Now that they have been taken, the assistance of other countries cannot be counted on!!

Gaara: Keeping appearances... Honor... That is stupid ancient thinking
Earth: (huh... What a brat...)

Water: The fact they have been taken should be a cause of alarm. To control them, we need techniques, knowledge, and time.
Earth: The Jinchuuriki grow with the bijuu. They need to adapt. And even then their control is difficult... Not to say impossible... Isn't it?... Kazekage...
Gaara: ...
Danzou: In the first place, the only people who could ever control bijuus in the true sense were Uchiha Madara and the first Hokage, Hashirama... And the fourth Mizukage, Yagura ...There was also the brother of the Raikage, Killer Bee, but...

Fire and Water minders react.
RAIKAGE BREAKS THE TABLE!! (YEAH! )
Raikage: Enough with all this useless chatter!!
All the minders move in to calm him down
A strike, another strike stopping it. We can see Kankurou's puppet

Mifune: This is a meeting, people. Mind your manners
Danzou: Calm down, Fuu, Rune.
Gaara: You too, Kankurou, Temari.
Water: Aoi (?), Chojiro, no problem...
Earth nods to Aka- and Kurozuchi

Raikage: Konoha! Rock! Sand! Cloud! Akatsuki is made of missing-nins from you villages! And that's not all!! Your predecessor kages included, there are some among you who have made use of Akatsuki before!!
Gaara: Made use...?
Raikage: I cannot trust you all! I did not want to talk to you at all! But I came, and I called you here, to ask your word!!
Gaara: What do you mean, made use of Akatsuki!?
Raikage: They didn't tell you anything, even though you're the Kazekage? Ask the old-timers of your village! You used Akatsuki in previous battles!
Earth: ...

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