Obito comparing his despairness to naruto

[Raekwon26]

So you're telling me that two friends are more important than family? Yeah, no. Unless he has no bonds with his family then he wouldnt only care for rin & kakashi.



Just because he was there doesnt mean that he was friends with them.

They did in fact ignore him, rin was the only one who was happy to see him

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He trained by himself

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He separated himself from the rest of the group (while still being somewhat close to rin Lol).

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& about the celebration, rin was the one who gave him the invite, basically means that she invited him. Would any of the other classmates come up to him with an invitation? From what we've seen, no they wouldnt. In fact, kakashi would just flat out refuse to invite him. Rin was the reason why he even attended that celebration.



Read the 2nd link, tobirama thoroughly explains why obito did what he did.

In the ninja world, yes it's possible. Considering the fact that he has been with these people the first day he entered the academy. They have been a team throughout that time period. They would go on missions together for maybe an extended period of time, so yes it is possible that Obito saw them as an extension of his family and cared for them very deeply. Especially in the Ninja world where it is more likely that you would spend more time with your team and comrades than family, that's why the Konoha 11 are such a tight unit.

SO over time, it wouldn't surprise me if Rin and Kakashi became the most important people in Obito's life.

I wasn't even talking about that first scan, I don't even think anyone knew him and Rin befriended him.

Hinata, Lee and Neji have trained by themselves before, doesn't mean they have no friends or didn't make any bonds.
He failed, of course he's going to want to have his own personal space right now. He feels he let himself down while the rest of his classmates are succeeding.

The second one is different. Again, you call me out for making assumptions yet you assume that Rin was going to be the only one to invite him. Did it ever occur to you that she planned the whole thing and invited everyone? Did it ever occur to you that no one else knew until Rin came up to each of them and told them individually?
If was a party to celebrate Kakashi's achievement and Rin really liked him so it would be a bit odd if someone else decided to go through all that trouble for Kakashi. In that frame, he looks fine and integrated with the rest of the group. He doesn't look the odd one out or like he's not wanted.

Again, you can't sit there and decide to call me out for making assumptions when you have just dome the exact same thing. It's hypocritical.

 

[Draphsin]

He did a nice job taking revenge on mist fodders but why start the war and destroy the world.

That was madara's doing.

Think about it, a 100+ year old uchiha who already knows what tobirama just said now has his hands on an innocent uchiha child. Put two & two together & there you go.

 

[Foster512]

That was madara's doing.

Think about it, a 100+ year old uchiha who already knows what tobirama just said now has his hands on an innocent uchiha child. Put two & two together & there you go.

He manipulated the child.That you can say its madaras fault but he is a grown up man right now.

 

[Renpatsu Dei]

I think that's the most interesting part of this Obito thing is that very contrast, Obito is the what if in Naruto's life. What if Naruto didn't meet Iruka when he thought all hope was lost and ended up with an old bitter Madara instead?

 

[Klad]

Firstly , if you think Obito is doing all this for Rin , then please log out . I don't care if you are a hater of him , you must admit facts .

Rin was the thing that opened Obito's eyes . When Rin died , he began to view the Ninja World as hell , cruel and despair .It's not like Rin made him like this , the shinobi world made him like this. Many innocent people and childs are killed everyday . This is why Obito wants to change the world .

Seriosly . if you think Obito is doing all this for Rin , then I will be honest : YOU ARE COMPLETELY A RETARD .

 

[Draphsin]

In the ninja world, yes it's possible. Considering the fact that he has been with these people the first day he entered the academy. They have been a team throughout that time period. They would go on missions together for maybe an extended period of time, so yes it is possible that Obito saw them as an extension of his family and cared for them very deeply. Especially in the Ninja world where it is more likely that you would spend more time with your team and comrades than family, that's why the Konoha 11 are such a tight unit.

Doesnt change the fact that obito would have feelings just as strong as his feelings for rin. He has said nothing about his parents & even in desperate situation there has been no mention of obito wanting to go back to his real family. The ones who raised him, even if he had friends who he considered as family then he should have parents too. Simple..

SO over time, it wouldn't surprise me if Rin and Kakashi became the most important people in Obito's life.

Still false, family comes first, blood is thicker than water. No matter what you say, obito shouldnt favor his friends over his parents in times of comfort unless he hates them or they're dead.

I wasn't even talking about that first scan, I don't even think anyone knew him and Rin befriended him.

Either way, that panel proves significance, look at obito, he is facing everyone else. Nobody greeted him the way rin did, they picked on him just like naruto got picked on.

Also since naruto & his classmates knew eachother even before the academy it makes logical sense that they all knew eachother beforehand, the village is small & all generations grow together..

Hinata, Lee and Neji have trained by themselves before, doesn't mean they have no friends or didn't make any bonds.
He failed, of course he's going to want to have his own personal space right now. He feels he let himself down while the rest of his classmates are succeeding.

These are both excuses, if kishi wanted to show us obito who had good friends or strong bods with other then he would have had him interacting with more than just rin. There is significance behind a chapter with no words you know...

The second one is different. Again, you call me out for making assumptions yet you assume that Rin was going to be the only one to invite him. Did it ever occur to you that she planned the whole thing and invited everyone? Did it ever occur to you that no one else knew until Rin came up to each of them and told them individually?

Lol either way, obito would not have celebrated had rin not been there. Kakashi would throw his own celebration if anything & obito would not be invited, which is the point. They didnt ignore him because of rin. Rin was the reason why he was acknowledged & not ignored by others. That page & the entire chapter actually supports this.

If was a party to celebrate Kakashi's achievement and Rin really liked him so it would be a bit odd if someone else decided to go through all that trouble for Kakashi. In that frame, he looks fine and integrated with the rest of the group. He doesn't look the odd one out or like he's not wanted.

Because he was with rin who was the one who was actually inviting him. As I said that entire interaction wouldn't have taken place without her. Obito whether kakashi had a party or not would not want to be there, nor would kakashi want him there.

Again, you can't sit there and decide to call me out for making assumptions when you have just dome the exact same thing. It's hypocritical.

No I havent, I have used the significance in the manga pages of a wordless chapter. You have to make the most logical assumption based on what we're given & that's exactly what I'm doing. You're making conclusions based on no evidence, at least I have support from the manga. *_*

 

[Draphsin]

He manipulated the child.That you can say its madaras fault but he is a grown up man right now.

Because he is already changed...

Give any uchiha a push towards their hate & they wont stop. Just look at what obito did to sasuke.

 

[Xāvî1]

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Obito's misery is a girls death who didnt even loved him.

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And he is comparing him self to naruto whose parents were killed the day he was born and was also hated by everyone.
Well what do you guys think who suffered more misery and pain?

Obito who else, cause he never new true love

 

[Foster512]

Firstly , if you think Obito is doing all this for Rin , then please log out . I don't care if you are a hater of him , you must admit facts .

Rin was the thing that opened Obito's eyes . When Rin died , he began to view the Ninja World as hell , cruel and despair .It's not like Rin made him like this , the shinobi world made him like this. Many innocent people and childs are killed everyday . This is why Obito wants to change the world .

Seriosly . if you think Obito is doing all this for Rin , then I will be honest : YOU ARE COMPLETELY A RETARD .

First of all I am no obito hater and second after rins death he attacked minato and kushina and unleashed the kyuubi to attack on the leaf and helped itachi eliminate the uchiha clan, and yeah he is trying to change the world by destroying everything in it.

 

[Foster512]

Because he is already changed...

Give any uchiha a push towards their hate & they wont stop. Just look at what obito did to sasuke.

Sasuke changed in a few years but as for obito he is still wanting to destroy the world

 

[Foster512]

Obito who else, cause he never new true love

And you think naruto new true love, he was alone from the start

 

[Booker]

Obito has clearly suffered more pain than Naruto.

It's all a matter of perspective. Rin's death > Naruto's neglection in Obito's eyes.

 

[Raekwon26]

Doesnt change the fact that obito would have feelings just as strong as his feelings for rin. He has said nothing about his parents & even in desperate situation there has been no mention of obito wanting to go back to his real family. The ones who raised him, even if he had friends who he considered as family then he should have parents too. Simple..



Still false, family comes first, blood is thicker than water. No matter what you say, obito shouldnt favor his friends over his parents in times of comfort unless he hates them or they're dead.



Either way, that panel proves significance, look at obito, he is facing everyone else. Nobody greeted him the way rin did, they picked on him just like naruto got picked on.

Also since naruto & his classmates knew eachother even before the academy it makes logical sense that they all knew eachother beforehand, the village is small & all generations grow together..



These are both excuses, if kishi wanted to show us obito who had good friends or strong bods with other then he would have had him interacting with more than just rin. There is significance behind a chapter with no words you know...



Lol either way, obito would not have celebrated had rin not been there. Kakashi would throw his own celebration if anything & obito would not be invited, which is the point. They didnt ignore him because of rin. Rin was the reason why he was acknowledged & not ignored by others. That page & the entire chapter actually supports this.



Because he was with rin who was the one who was actually inviting him. As I said that entire interaction wouldn't have taken place without her. Obito whether kakashi had a party or not would not want to be there, nor would kakashi want him there.



No I havent, I have used the significance in the manga pages of a wordless chapter. You have to make the most logical assumption based on what we're given & that's exactly what I'm doing. You're making conclusions based on no evidence, at least I have support from the manga. *_*

So, if you make assumptions on a wordless chapter, it's ok, but if I or anyone else does it, we have no evidence?

Yeah, that makes total sense....

 

[Draphsin]

Sasuke changed in a few years but as for obito he is still wanting to destroy the world

Because his plan makes everything that he does irrelevant, he can be as evil as he wants because that world will be meaningless if he succeeds.

 

[Draphsin]

So, if you make assumptions on a wordless chapter, it's ok, but if I or anyone else does it, we have no evidence?

Yeah, that makes total sense....

As I said you're basing conclusions off of no manga evidence. My scans directly support my points.

 

[Foster512]

Because his plan makes everything that he does irrelevant, he can be as evil as he wants because that world will be meaningless if he succeeds.

I give up. I'v got nothing to throw at you anymore, you won=D

 

[Raekwon26]

As I said you're basing conclusions off of no manga evidence. My scans directly support my points.

No, they don't.
You're basing your conclusions of the manga and have reached a conclusion.
I'm basing my assumptions of the manga and have reached a different conclusion.

Just because it is different from your, doesn't mean i'm incorrect.
Nothing I have said, was not in the manga scans.

 

[Narutoarchive101]

There are a lot of people in naruto that suffered far more than obito. Dose he know how it feels to be hated by the whole for just being alive being treated like you have some deadly disease nobody can stand being around and people wishing you would just go and die well naruto and all the other tailed beast host knows this feeling oh too well. Having you parents cut down before your very eyes being betrayed by your village and seeing you best friend killed infront of you Nagoto knows this too well. Obito's pain pale in comparison

 

[Narutoarchive101]

I think people over look this part too when talking about obito's suffering rin died. She was not murdered in cold blood she chose death she loved her village that she chose death rather than see what might have happen if she had gone back she died a hero protecting the place she loved where she shared lots of happy memory's. obito clams he loved her so much but he is trying to destroy the very thing she gave her life to protect isn't that ironic.

 

[Foster512]

I think people over look this part too when talking about obito's suffering rin died. She was not murdered in cold blood she chose death she loved her village that she chose death rather than see what might have happen if she had gone back she died a hero protecting the place she loved where she shared lots of happy memory's. obito clams he loved her so much but he is trying to destroy the very thing she gave her life to protect isn't that ironic.

Read this ^ Obito fans