Madara: the lynchpin of the Narutoverse

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As a powerful character, with strong, appealing personality, and determination for peace, Nagato is the best for sure. But as for the villain, its Madara for sure. He is the real deal, man. I mean, he's the one pulling the strings in his favour (i.e. - for his ideals to be fulfiled) even in his death. If it wouldn't have been for Madara, there would be no orphan Naruto (with Kyuubi sealed), no Nagato (Madara used him, so that he would be revived by Obito, after he would steal Nagato's rinnegan for Christ's sake) and Akatsuki (Obito twisted its ideals so that it would strive to acheive peace by collecting bijuus which in turn would help fulfill Eternal Tsukiyomi or a similar kind of thing, where an organization controls the whole world), so that Obito would use, no twisted Obito (using his ideals & twisting it, to fit its role in his Eternal Tsukiyomi project, which was Madara's idea, and for God's sake no jyuubi resurrection would take place.
I think Madara's only miscalculation, was to be resurrected by rinne tensei, which didn't happen, due to Obito's strong determination and effort.
And even if you think about it, the shinobi alliance, it was the side effect to the doings of Madara. His name could even be used by a nobody, to bluff an entire nation into meaningless war. His entity makes the entire Narutoverse as we know it.
Madara thought of every possible outcome, and successfully turned them into his favour. His only mistake was that, he didn't believe in prophecies, which was the part Jiraiya played unexceptionally well, to tutor nagato and naruto.
Madara used an Uzumaki (senju descendent) and an uchiha to fulfil his long shot ambitions, involving SO6P's powers. I mean, he is one perfect villain with perfect pawns, in his perfectly woven strategy which is still working.
 

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block text didn't read but yea madara is important to the story considering he set in motion alot of events.
 

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Good Thought and nicely written...

Madara Or Oro Must be the main Villain

Oro failed every single time.And there's a benefit to loosing.You get to learn from your mistakes
 

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I betcha madara didnt think that obito would laugh at the idea of reviving him :cool:.

Kabuto saved madara's ass from total decomposition, madara's plan was an utter failure without him. Obito merely took on that old man's plan, dusted it off a little & made it his own. :hypertobi:
 

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Agreed.... he will be a perfect villain if his goal is truly evil and not some perfect world concept.

Orochimaru's persuit of power and knowledge was what made him an amazing villain... his goals had no benefit to the world.
 

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Good Thought and nicely written...

Madara Or Oro Must be the main Villain

Oro failed every single time.And there's a benefit to loosing.You get to learn from your mistakes

Oro was a villain, but not now. Actually, based on their own ideals, Madara's and Itachi's actions were logical. As for Sasuke, I don't know what the hell he was trying to do. But Oro, he became too obsessed with snakes after his parent's deaths, he was too devoted to his work, to fulfil his interests. To me, he is one hell of a information gatherer, and a researcher. Aided with Kabuto's loyalty, he gained a lot of reps from my end, not as a villain, but as an all-the-time curious researcher striving to find the correct theory behind each hidden ninjutsu, or techinques or whatever. The only aspect which makes him the villain to everyone, is the way he works i.e. he doesn't think of the consequences. He goes all the way, how dirty it might be.
 

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As a powerful character, with strong, appealing personality, and determination for peace, Nagato is the best for sure. But as for the villain, its Madara for sure. He is the real deal, man. I mean, he's the one pulling the strings in his favour (i.e. - for his ideals to be fulfiled) even in his death. If it wouldn't have been for Madara, there would be no orphan Naruto (with Kyuubi sealed), no Nagato (Madara used him, so that he would be revived by Obito, after he would steal Nagato's rinnegan for Christ's sake) and Akatsuki (Obito twisted its ideals so that it would strive to acheive peace by collecting bijuus which in turn would help fulfill Eternal Tsukiyomi or a similar kind of thing, where an organization controls the whole world), so that Obito would use, no twisted Obito (using his ideals & twisting it, to fit its role in his Eternal Tsukiyomi project, which was Madara's idea, and for God's sake no jyuubi resurrection would take place.
I think Madara's only miscalculation, was to be resurrected by rinne tensei, which didn't happen, due to Obito's strong determination and effort.
And even if you think about it, the shinobi alliance, it was the side effect to the doings of Madara. His name could even be used by a nobody, to bluff an entire nation into meaningless war. His entity makes the entire Narutoverse as we know it.
Madara thought of every possible outcome, and successfully turned them into his favour. His only mistake was that, he didn't believe in prophecies, which was the part Jiraiya played unexceptionally well, to tutor nagato and naruto.
Madara used an Uzumaki (senju descendent) and an uchiha to fulfil his long shot ambitions, involving SO6P's powers. I mean, he is one perfect villain with perfect pawns, in his perfectly woven strategy which is still working.

so you're not a tobidara fan , so sad ... :NO:
 

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the masked man is the best villian ever (not obito)! after his mask broke he became a *****
 

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Ha! So much for a villain who gets his ass whooped everytime by Hashirama
 

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the masked man is the best villian ever (not obito)! after his mask broke he became a *****
If you say "BLUFFING", hiding behind the mask, and being a live "PANIC BUTTON". Hell, you are damn right. He helped pass the timeline elegantly for sure. But remember he was a pawn of Madara, that he's half body was made out of Madara's will.
 

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Somehow, I feel like his plans are still going how he wants them. He was keeping his cool a bit too much when Obito became the Jin.
 

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Somehow, I feel like his plans are still going how he wants them. He was keeping his cool a bit too much when Obito became the Jin.
It doesn't matter, because his sole objective is to execute Project Eternal Tsukiyomi.
 

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I found this video recently, supporting my views.
[video=youtube;iye5agR1FZA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iye5agR1FZA[/video]
 
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