[VS] NB Team Debate League Round 4: Senko vs Susano'o
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Prince Charles
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LMAO! draegod and bogard act so similar sometimes :heh: i got mixed up
SO the only other user in the entire manga cannot use Black lightning even though he was the one who taught it to dairu??? Lmao
Again, Kabuto knows everything about the ninjas he has stolen the abilities of, fact! And everything i listed were kkg/abilities/summons! And kabuto is shown to do all of them in some way shape or form!
Danzou doesnt know the sharingan in and out, danzou does not know every sharingan ability. SO that was a horrible comparison.The Yamato one was better then the danzou argument.
Again, this is only an opening to show you how he counters anything sasuke does. #Control #KendrickLamar
I dont take you or any uchiha fan serious when it comes to defending them. It is only about 3 real uchiha fans on this site that use logic that i could take serious. Besides that your a cool kid (as long as it isn;t uchiha related).
Lmao Bro there all Butt Hurt! I wouldnt expect anything less from uchiha fans of their caliber! Ill PM you later btw
Look what i caught your teammate stating about minato! lmao
Such a hypocrite!!! =D
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*People claim Danzo doesn't know Sharingan in and outs*
*Manga shows the he knows about Sharingan precog, forbidden jutsu that not even some Uchiha knows about, and what the power of Senju and Uchiha can do together.*
*Manga shows the he knows about Sharingan precog, forbidden jutsu that not even some Uchiha knows about, and what the power of Senju and Uchiha can do together.*
KidGamer65
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Actually I realized what you said about the Sound 4 abilities made sense. It'd be nice if you could hop off though.
Ok just making sure! Because your other followers are still on my tip about what I posted even though I used logic and manga behind it. I wish the others could catch on faster than you. Haha
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I'm guessing this is the post that started all the commotion on this thread.
My answer: it's up to the judges to point that fact out and if the case be, deduct points from his arguments. Simple as that. No more debating over something that is not up to debaters.
Bitches...
Debates only go by feats is a false claim since feats executed by the characters throughout the series may have been restricted or some not utilized by the author for [his] plot purposes.
For example: Kakashi not using Kamui against Kakuzu despite having the technique; as if he did, there would be no need for Naruto's grand entry with the Futton: Rasen-Shuriken; or as to say Izuna cannot use Genjutsu when he possesses a Mangekyou.
Debates only go by feats is a false claim since feats executed by the characters throughout the series may have been restricted or some not utilized by the author for [his] plot purposes.
For example: Kakashi not using Kamui against Kakuzu despite having the technique; as if he did, there would be no need for Naruto's grand entry with the Futton: Rasen-Shuriken; or as to say Izuna cannot use Genjutsu when he possesses a Mangekyou.
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Lol Kakashi still would of lost
But we already said that we'll counter all those extra abilities as it doesn't change much, And having a KKG that allows the use of many abilities is different from someone acquiring abilities via DNA they took or was given, as its difficult to Gage what and what not the user can use
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KidGamer65, Amaterasu isn't stopping Hakugeki given it's size, speed and the fact that as Draegod rightly stated: it burns slowly. The jutsu is bisected as a white dragon [light] wielding an orb [sound], meaning that even if Amaterasu was successful on the Dragon entity, the sound portion of the jutsu alone would grant Kabuto a sufficient gap to finish sasuke by removing his head via chakra blades as maintaining Susano'o' while his chakra system is disrupted by intense vibrations isn't an option as directly stated in canon, that he couldn't maintain it. Not sure why you mention the hawk summon or Aoda when both would be affected by the light and sound produced and dispersed instantly.
Your understanding of Muki-Tensei is flawed if you've actually posted that scan to say that Susano'o' will counter the technique. The inorganic transmigration grants the user complete control of something that is
AncientCenturion, you stated that:
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KidGamer65, Amaterasu isn't stopping Hakugeki given it's size, speed and the fact that as Draegod rightly stated: it burns slowly. The jutsu is bisected as a white dragon [light] wielding an orb [sound], meaning that even if Amaterasu was successful on the Dragon entity, the sound portion of the jutsu alone would grant Kabuto a sufficient gap to finish sasuke by removing his head via chakra blades as maintaining Susano'o' while his chakra system is disrupted by intense vibrations isn't an option as directly stated in canon, that he couldn't maintain it. Not sure why you mention the hawk summon or Aoda when both would be affected by the light and sound produced and dispersed instantly.
Your understanding of Muki-Tensei is flawed if you've actually posted that scan to say that Susano'o' will counter the technique. The inorganic transmigration grants the user complete control of something that is
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, a control that covers numerous meters; meaning that in the given terrain, Yukushi could simply split the earth beneath Sasuke and bury him miles beneth ground, where he will suffocate to death, rivaling Yamato [
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]. It also grants him the ability to completely change the arrangement of the natural and artificial physical features of an area, meaning that he could cause large masses of flat ground to project upwards, or in any desired direction [
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] which could be used from opposite directions to crush the Version 1 Susano'o' as well as sasuke; rivaling Kitsuchi doton [
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]. As regards your finishing methods, there are discrepancies within your points. The Enton Katana cannot kill kabuto while he can liquefy his body and endlessly perform the oral rebirth [
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]. None of Sasuke's enton, Susano'o' weapons or Amaterasu would work on kabuto as his reflexes are guided by Nature itself. He would simply step aside from Sasuke's line of sight.
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AncientCenturion, you stated that:
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Sennin Modo doesn't utilize the users Spiritual and Physical energy but rather the Shizen enerugi accumulated form the terrain. It is the reason why all users thus far are never exhausted after using the said transformation. The users utilize Senjutsu, which are sage techniques that may even extend to the users own jutsu being fully comprised of the Natural energy [
@ Jirobo Counters: False dilemmas. He'd simply use it outside of Susanoo's CQC range as done in canon. Your conjecture on chakra consumption has already been targeted.
@ Kidomaru Counters: It required both Sasuke's and Itachi's Amaterasu efforts to completely disperse the web, saying Sasuke would be able to do the same is highly questionable when it would not only require more chakra but focus. Kabuto could use that extended interval to finish Sasuke with Kidomaru's bones; starting from directly beneath him in this scenario [
@ Tayuya Counters: Kabuto has access to all of sound 5's abilities since he fused their genetic material with his own. The role of Deoxy-ribonucleic Acid is to maintain all the information about an organism, including physical traits as well genetic; hence why he was able to produce exact replica's of the group as well as to perfectly perform their jutsu. Though the jutsu may have been with held by the authour for reasons regarding plot, it is no where near necessary to employ an ad ignorantiam.
@ White Snake Counters: Sasuke's level of Katon cannot completely disintegrate the White snake and by the time it reaches kabuto, he would have already perform oral re-birth or countered with Suiton: Daibakubu. With his ability to regenerate, the white snake would be easily repaired.
You also stated:
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]; there's really no to Yukushi's Sage mode. @ Jirobo Counters: False dilemmas. He'd simply use it outside of Susanoo's CQC range as done in canon. Your conjecture on chakra consumption has already been targeted.
@ Kidomaru Counters: It required both Sasuke's and Itachi's Amaterasu efforts to completely disperse the web, saying Sasuke would be able to do the same is highly questionable when it would not only require more chakra but focus. Kabuto could use that extended interval to finish Sasuke with Kidomaru's bones; starting from directly beneath him in this scenario [
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]@ Tayuya Counters: Kabuto has access to all of sound 5's abilities since he fused their genetic material with his own. The role of Deoxy-ribonucleic Acid is to maintain all the information about an organism, including physical traits as well genetic; hence why he was able to produce exact replica's of the group as well as to perfectly perform their jutsu. Though the jutsu may have been with held by the authour for reasons regarding plot, it is no where near necessary to employ an ad ignorantiam.
@ White Snake Counters: Sasuke's level of Katon cannot completely disintegrate the White snake and by the time it reaches kabuto, he would have already perform oral re-birth or countered with Suiton: Daibakubu. With his ability to regenerate, the white snake would be easily repaired.
You also stated:
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Also Stating that Sasuke could simply follow through or use his sharingan's natural precognition ability to predict his course of movements and send whatever jutsu he wishes to the area where Kabuto is headed isn't going to work as Sasuke already attempted this with the Susano'o' arrow, which proved ineffective as Nature will always provide a counter for itself. As Draegod stated, his sensing abilities, intel and reflexes would greatly prohibit Sasuke from landing any solid attacks. In the end not only is kabuto already equipped with the abilities to counter all the Uchiha has to bring forth, but the potential to negate Sasuke entirely; not forgetting Kirin: Kabuto would simply split into snakes and utilize the nearby forestry to confuse the sharingan user.
Sasuke simply doesn't have the chakra pools or stamina necessary to keep up with [much less defeat] Kabuto. and would eventually be worn out and slaughtered. Sasuke facing seven opponents as well as Manda II which may be used as a decoy would be too overwhelming, even while he maintains the Eien Mangekyou as it doesn't grant the user a larger chakra pool but rather, prohibits them from going blind. Kabuto almost instantly recovers any damage suffered, meaning that he cannot be fatally wounded. Kabuto has already overwhelmed the sharingan and remains with much to offer, as he could attack from beneath the surface at any point via
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]Also Stating that Sasuke could simply follow through or use his sharingan's natural precognition ability to predict his course of movements and send whatever jutsu he wishes to the area where Kabuto is headed isn't going to work as Sasuke already attempted this with the Susano'o' arrow, which proved ineffective as Nature will always provide a counter for itself. As Draegod stated, his sensing abilities, intel and reflexes would greatly prohibit Sasuke from landing any solid attacks. In the end not only is kabuto already equipped with the abilities to counter all the Uchiha has to bring forth, but the potential to negate Sasuke entirely; not forgetting Kirin: Kabuto would simply split into snakes and utilize the nearby forestry to confuse the sharingan user.
Sasuke simply doesn't have the chakra pools or stamina necessary to keep up with [much less defeat] Kabuto. and would eventually be worn out and slaughtered. Sasuke facing seven opponents as well as Manda II which may be used as a decoy would be too overwhelming, even while he maintains the Eien Mangekyou as it doesn't grant the user a larger chakra pool but rather, prohibits them from going blind. Kabuto almost instantly recovers any damage suffered, meaning that he cannot be fatally wounded. Kabuto has already overwhelmed the sharingan and remains with much to offer, as he could attack from beneath the surface at any point via
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or do so utilizing snakes as a decoy. Though the Susano'o' may provide him with defenses and the Sharingan a way to anticipate attacks; Sasuke has no true way of finishing kabuto and would inevitably be exhausted and killed.
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