[VS] Kirabi vs Itachi

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Both have all their current knowledge
Both are alive, with Itachi being in the same form that he fought Sasuke
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The terrain is the same place that B and Naruto encountered Edo Nagato and Edo Itachi.

Would you like to go first Chuck, or should I?
 

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Same form as when he fought sasuke? blind sick itachi that even zetsu noted that wasnt fighting properly? handicapping my man itachi I see. *_*
 

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since itachi is sick, im going with killer bee he has a massive amount of chakra and can last for a while and hachibi can break bee out of tsukaiomi (or however the hell you say it lol)

but if itachi was healthy he would win but i really dont feel like explaining unless i truly have to
 

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Same form as when he fought sasuke? blind sick itachi that even zetsu noted that wasnt fighting properly? handicapping my man itachi I see. *_*

That is the last form before Edo and there is no healthy Itachi, so..

How about we give him the eyesight he had as an Edo?
 
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That is the last form before Edo and there is no healthy Itachi, so

Your giving Bee the advantage clearly U_U putting him in his basically already blind and sick state against a perfect jink. But since you want to play the handicap game ill go by your rules. Shall you start off or shall I?
 

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Your giving Bee the advantage clearly U_U putting him in his basically already blind and sick state against a perfect jink. But since you want to play the handicap game ill go by your rules. Shall you start off or shall I?

Fine then. Let's pit a healthy Itachi, pretending there was one, against Bee. I'd prefer if you start.
 

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Fine then. Let's pit a healthy Itachi, pretending there was one, against Bee. I'd prefer if you start.

He still suffers from stamina and still has to be cautious of his chakra reserves but what i was getting at was mainly the being near blind situation. One cannot fight against a perfect jink while being near completely blind U_U. Anyways Ill start off.
 

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Itachi wins .. mid diff
 

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He still suffers from stamina and still has to be cautious of his chakra reserves but what i was getting at was mainly the being near blind situation. One cannot fight against a perfect jink while being near completely blind U_U. Anyways Ill start off.

That's why I edited my above post saying he has his Edo sight. I agree to your terms.
 

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Ill get straight to the point here regarding how Itachi ends this match rather quickly. Foremost regarding the taijutsu area both opponents have shown exception skill in that department but it's clear as day that Itachi still exceeds bee in that area mainly due to the sharigan prog and his own person skill of course.

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Lee demonstrating and breaking down a flaw in the sharigan Prog. Why am I showing this scan? It's to display Itachi's remarkable taijutsu and speed traits. Regarding how Lee said if one cannot Keep up even if they can see the movements this is again later demonstrated in the uchiha when Itachi instantly brings down 3 grown uchiha men with their 3Tomeo sharigan activated[ ][ ]. Now if my memory serves my correctly they were also police man, Keeping that in mind is so un-logical to assume that their 3Tomeo in their rightfully state were matured to the point where they can see movements?I think so. So that goes into how Itachi's taijutsu as that superior that even grown men could not with fully developed 3Tomeo sharigans can react to his speed and CQC.

Many people compare Itachi to sasuke in regards to Bee's 8 sword style attack. Immediately off the bad they assume since sasuke crumbled against the attack Itachi will too but this simply isnt the case here. Except we see itachi clearly capable of reacting and evading the 8 sword style attack swiftly and comfortably to go deal with his business regarding KA with naruto. Anway I simply wanted to point out how CQC isnt in Bee's grasp as many people think but when we take into factor of samehada Which Itachi knows Bee now wields[ ].Itachi will be sure to cautious since he well knows the capabilities and power the samehada possesses.

Anyways right off the bat Bee will most likely charge into a CQC confrontation but will sadly fall victim to a crow clone genjutsu[ ]. Which I might add took him a few moments to brake out of[ ]. That confrontation Proves that Bee isnt so used to fighting or nor knowledgeable regarding Uchihas. Bee undoubtedly falls victim to a tysukuyomi within mere seconds loses conscientiousness and Itachi finishes the fight with a simply Amamterasu setting him ablaze.


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Itachi can still take bee... Until bee gets a proper counter for Amaterasu it's not up for debate...
 

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Ill get straight to the point here regarding how Itachi ends this match rather quickly. Foremost regarding the taijutsu area both opponents have shown exception skill in that department but it's clear as day that Itachi still exceeds bee in that area mainly due to the sharigan prog and his own person skill of course.

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Lee demonstrating and breaking down a flaw in the sharigan Prog. Why am I showing this scan? It's to display Itachi's remarkable taijutsu and speed traits. Regarding how Lee said if one cannot Keep up even if they can see the movements this is again later demonstrated in the uchiha when Itachi instantly brings down 3 grown uchiha men with their 3Tomeo sharigan activated[ ][ ]. Now if my memory serves my correctly they were also police man, Keeping that in mind is so un-logical to assume that their 3Tomeo in their rightfully state were matured to the point where they can see movements?I think so. So that goes into how Itachi's taijutsu as that superior that even grown men could not with fully developed 3Tomeo sharigans can react to his speed and CQC.

Many people compare Itachi to sasuke in regards to Bee's 8 sword style attack. Immediately off the bad they assume since sasuke crumbled against the attack Itachi will too but this simply isnt the case here. Except we see itachi clearly capable of reacting and evading the 8 sword style attack swiftly and comfortably to go deal with his business regarding KA with naruto. Anway I simply wanted to point out how CQC isnt in Bee's grasp as many people think but when we take into factor of samehada Which Itachi knows Bee now wields[ ].Itachi will be sure to cautious since he well knows the capabilities and power the samehada possesses.

Anyways right off the bat Bee will most likely charge into a CQC confrontation but will sadly fall victim to a crow clone genjutsu[ ]. Which I might add took him a few moments to brake out of[ ]. That confrontation Proves that Bee isnt so used to fighting or nor knowledgeable regarding Uchihas. Bee undoubtedly falls victim to a tysukuyomi within mere seconds loses conscientiousness and Itachi finishes the fight with a simply Amamterasu setting him ablaze.


Note - Do not take my openings seriously, when it comes to openings I suck and can care less about them. Too lazy to put much effort into an opening.

You make good points, even if you didn't take this opening seriously.

Firstly, I'd like to address your claim with Itachi vs Bee's sword. One thing you were right about, Sasuke's and Itachi's handling of Bee's seven sword stance shouldn't be compared and Sasuke's case shouldn't be applied to Itachi's, in both saying Itachi can or can't defend. This is because, while Sasuke was directly engaging Bee, Itachi was on complete defense. Unlike Sasuke, who was attempting to land a strike on Bee, Itachi only attempted to dodge. Sasuke too was able to track Bee's swords with his eyes, but his body was unable to keep up, but I don't need to tell you what that means, seeing as that was the first thing you brought up. If Itachi was attempting to strike Bee like Sasuke was, he would not have escaped without damage.

Snapping Bee out of the jutsu does not take that much time at all. Perception of time withing a Jinchruki's mind is different than how time passes in the real world, as shown with how Naruto converses with Kurama throughout his battle with Obito, but the time that passes in the real world in much shorter than shown. Not only that, but Bee was snapped out of it fast enough to tell Samehada to give him his swords, for Samehada to release the swords, for Bee to grab them and then wield them to deflect the shuriken.

Tsukiyomi would be snapped out at the same rate as the Crow Genjutsu.
 

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You make good points, even if you didn't take this opening seriously.

Firstly, I'd like to address your claim with Itachi vs Bee's sword. One thing you were right about, Sasuke's and Itachi's handling of Bee's seven sword stance shouldn't be compared and Sasuke's case shouldn't be applied to Itachi's, in both saying Itachi can or can't defend. This is because, while Sasuke was directly engaging Bee, Itachi was on complete defense. Unlike Sasuke, who was attempting to land a strike on Bee, Itachi only attempted to dodge. Sasuke too was able to track Bee's swords with his eyes, but his body was unable to keep up, but I don't need to tell you what that means, seeing as that was the first thing you brought up. If Itachi was attempting to strike Bee like Sasuke was, he would not have escaped without damage.

Snapping Bee out of the jutsu does not take that much time at all. Perception of time withing a Jinchruki's mind is different than how time passes in the real world, as shown with how Naruto converses with Kurama throughout his battle with Obito, but the time that passes in the real world in much shorter than shown. Not only that, but Bee was snapped out of it fast enough to tell Samehada to give him his swords, for Samehada to release the swords, for Bee to grab them and then wield them to deflect the shuriken.

Tsukiyomi would be snapped out at the same rate as the Crow Genjutsu.

Him being on the defensive makes no difference here as he will be sure to evade the attack again being on the defensive. Offensive will make no difference here as I pointed out before that he was capable of Instantly taking down 3 matured Uchiha members with their sharigan activated. That alones saids that his movements were simply too swift and fast for 3 other sharigan wielders While being on the offensive.. Regarding the confrontation with sasuke if you actually analyze it the majority of his actions against Bee's 8 sword style attack were actually on the defensive similar to itachi[ ][ ].

Regarding Bee Im looking at his braking through Itachi's genjutsu time duration to be a few seconds at best in real world logic and time. That being said a tysukuyomi which manipulates time in the users brain, a mere 5 seconds similar to how long it took Bee to overcome the genjutsu would be about 3 days in the tysukuyomi realm which would be his down fall.
 

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Him being on the defensive makes no difference here as he will be sure to evade the attack again being on the defensive. Offensive will make no difference here as I pointed out before that he was capable of Instantly taking down 3 matured Uchiha members with their sharigan activated. That alones saids that his movements were simply too swift and fast for 3 other sharigan wielders While being on the offensive.. Regarding the confrontation with sasuke if you actually analyze it the majority of his actions against Bee's 8 sword style attack were actually on the defensive similar to itachi[ ][ ].

Regarding Bee Im looking at his braking through Itachi's genjutsu time duration to be a few seconds at best in real world logic and time. That being said a tysukuyomi which manipulates time in the users brain, a mere 5 seconds similar to how long it took Bee to overcome the genjutsu would be about 3 days in the tysukuyomi realm which would be his down fall.

It has been stated that Genjutsu is usless against Perfect Jinchruki because the Bijuu can disrupt the chakra. Since Bee has knowledge on Itachi, Hachibi will be constantly on the lookout for Genjutsu, meaning he can disrupt it as soon as it is applied. Also, Itachi knows Genjutsu won't work on Bee. Being as smart as he is, he will reason Genjutsu is useless and won't use it anyway. That rules out Genjutsu.

As for Amaterasu, Bee has already shown to have a counter for that.

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As clearly seen there, Bee can capatilize on the fact that Itachi closes his eyes before using Amaterasu. If Nagato wasn't there, the knife would have drilled into his skull, which is exactly what would happen during this match-up
 

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It has been stated that Genjutsu is usless against Perfect Jinchruki because the Bijuu can disrupt the chakra. Since Bee has knowledge on Itachi, Hachibi will be constantly on the lookout for Genjutsu, meaning he can disrupt it as soon as it is applied. Also, Itachi knows Genjutsu won't work on Bee. Being as smart as he is, he will reason Genjutsu is useless and won't use it anyway. That rules out Genjutsu.

Genjutsu is not Useless against Perfect Jinchuriki. It simply makes the process of braking out of it simpler but the effect is still there. The 8 tails cannot sense when tysukuyomi is about to be used unless you can provide me a scan of it possessing Sensing abilities. Haichibi being on alert of the genjutsu to me doesnt make any more or any less troublesome to snap Bee out of it, the same process applies. Bee will not get broken Instantly out of the genjutsu which means he is prone to tysukuyomi as Itachi only needs Seconds for Bee to be in the realm to cause damage.Btw tell me if you want me to stop using this particular font, Im just testing it out.*_*

As clearly seen there, Bee can capatilize on the fact that Itachi closes his eyes before using Amaterasu. If Nagato wasn't there, the knife would have drilled into his skull, which is exactly what would happen during this match-up

Except Itachi was focused on Naruto and Bee attacked from a blindspot. That isnt the case here as seeing he will be focusing on Bee. Not too mention it's been shown that an amaterasu only has to close one eye which amaterasu comes out[ ] meaning Itachi wont be so vulnerable as you think when we take into account he will still have one eye open. Bringing out amaterasu isnt a lengthy process. Once Bee falls victim to a crow clone genjutsu That gives Itachi more than enough time to bring out amaterasu as seeing the 8 tails will take a moment or two to snap bee out of it.
 
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