[Predictions] Naruto Manga 457 Discussion / 458 Predictions

[Pedrofilio]

Well i think the people of the iron country already know because remember in last chapter it said their country depends of strong warriors ans military strength so i think they have spies spread around all over the world, i don't think the raikage knows about naruto oter wise he wouldn't have talked to him in such way.

Yeah but Raikage is full of emotions now..and he is like a person that knows hes strong and thinks shit about people like naruto just cuz he is a kid...
And I like the funny faces dude! the one on the bottom row in the centre i recognize!
That is were he woke up in the hospital and called sakura a d*rty h*w xD

PS: i said it already but..Raikage has a different chair then the other kages! xD special treatment for big people with little brains

 

[narutosharingan]

ohh ohhh and tobi is really barack obama its tru look at them they have the same heir

Barak obama

 

[narutosharingan]

was sasuke suppose to kill all the kages or just Danzo? i forgot also to those of you who like this the first naruto shippuuden episode DUBBED is about to be out on the net (still wont show on tv however)

THANKS man i have waited for this a long time.

 

[narutosharingan]

i dont know if enyone said this before but i think that kishi have told to as how madara can leave for so long ! Remember what madara told zetsu about pains rinne tensei jutsu .
Something like "i want this jutsu for myself" ! so can it be that he is alive because of this jutsu ! dont know if this true or not , but there is no othere thougths wich would sound for me like possible version!

that jutsu was actually used to revive madara (my thoughts) i think madara needs it to revive the other uchiha or to revive the rest of his powers or something (my thoughts).

 

[YeS_I_AM]

Danzo would have known Madara very well. Everyone believed that madara died at the valley of end. When Danzo received Sai's message, had he not known Madara is still alive, he is supposed to be shocked. Instead, we do not see any reaction at all. What he said was "just an update". So i believe that Danzo had already knew that Madara was not dead at all, he may even know that Madara is the leader of Atkastki though i'm not sure.

And who said, that Sai reported about Madara? Kakashi advised him to report to danzou about naruto only the fact, that naruto haven't made a move yet. That's why danzou sad that it was only an update.

 

[narutosharingan]

Yeah but Raikage is full of emotions now..and he is like a person that knows hes strong and thinks shit about people like naruto just cuz he is a kid...
And I like the funny faces dude! the one on the bottom row in the centre i recognize!
That is were he woke up in the hospital and called sakura a d*rty h*w xD

PS: i said it already but..Raikage has a different chair then the other kages! xD special treatment for big people with little brains

did you notice when raikage was leaving they showed his face in the caption he looked kinda sad.

 

[narutosharingan]

And who said, that Sai reported about Madara? Kakashi advised him to report to danzou about naruto only the fact, that naruto haven't made a move yet. That's why danzou sad that it was only an update.

yeah i doubt that sai told him about madara since at the moment they don't even know if he is really madara. i think that letter is just a made up story about naruto.

 

[YeS_I_AM]

yeah i doubt that sai told him about madara since at the moment they don't even know if he is really madara. i think that letter is just a made up story about naruto.

And I don't really get why most of the guy's say that naruto is pittiful and stuff like that. What else could he do anyway?

 

[jtstiff]

1, ill go along with

2, the point still remains he couldnt control and protect 2 nations at war with eachother, although he was not hokage he was still in his secret power position

3, karin or maybe even sasuke would have detected the chakra similarities b/t danzou and tobi at the kage meeting, also sending sasuke to kill the kages? suicide mission plain and simple

4, danzou could have done it early on when :naruto: was weak and hated. the village would have loved for him to be gone back then, also danzou is a master of trickery he could have easily slid his way out of the spotlight after something like that

the Uchiha Fugaku is a good idea, the problem being Itachi said himself that sasuke was the only one who lived. on top of that itachi was a genious even at that age im quite certian he would have recognized his own father telling him to kill his family.

I'll leave the Marada is Danzo stuff alone for now, cause I like the Fugaku theory better.

If Danzo is Fugaku then that would mean that Itachi was either part of Fugaku's Coup D'etas plan, or Fugaku saw it coming and used some kind of substitution tech to fake his death. After all, Fugaku was Itachi and Sasuke's father. Not as powerful as either, of course, as he didn't do all the questionable things that itachi and sasuke did to gain their power. But likely, just as intelligent as his sons. Itachi was still young, he could have been fooled.

Then again, Itachi may have known that Danzo was his father. If itachi was part of the plan then Fugaku (who would have also been posing as Danzo at the time) put Itachi up to the whole thing, even the part where he cut up his own father, leaving him almost dead so he could fake his death. Like Madara said, Itachi was just following orders. Fugaku ultimately had the same goals as Danzo. He wanted to be Hokage and take revenge on the Senju. Danzo hates the Senju ideals and wants to be Hokage. Now that we're finding out that Danzo may be an Uchiha, it kinda makes sense that he'd be Fugaku.

There's also one other Uchiha that Danzo could be, but the only thing there is to support the idea is Danzo's physical condition. Messed up right arm, crushed right leg, sharingan missing from his left eye socket... He could be Obito. They never collect Obito's body and we never see him die at the end of the Kakashi Gaiden. But I feel like kakashi would have noticed by now.

 

[narutosharingan]

And I don't really get why most of the guy's say that naruto is pittiful and stuff like that. What else could he do anyway?

Well he could have said that theman to capture sasuke will be and no one else and should have showed his sage mode then the raikage would've been...

 

[UzumakiGirlx]

Yeah but Raikage is full of emotions now..and he is like a person that knows hes strong and thinks shit about people like naruto just cuz he is a kid...
And I like the funny faces dude! the one on the bottom row in the centre i recognize!
That is were he woke up in the hospital and called sakura a d*rty h*w xD

PS: i said it already but..Raikage has a different chair then the other kages! xD special treatment for big people with little brains

lmao yeupp XD Raikage is pretty special..

 

[mcspaddin]

I'll leave the Marada is Danzo stuff alone for now, cause I like the Fugaku theory better.

If Danzo is Fugaku then that would mean that Itachi was either part of Fugaku's Coup D'etas plan, or Fugaku saw it coming and used some kind of substitution tech to fake his death. After all, Fugaku was Itachi and Sasuke's father. Not as powerful as either, of course, as he didn't do all the questionable things that itachi and sasuke did to gain their power. But likely, just as intelligent as his sons. Itachi was still young, he could have been fooled.

Then again, Itachi may have known that Danzo was his father. If itachi was part of the plan then Fugaku (who would have also been posing as Danzo at the time) put Itachi up to the whole thing, even the part where he cut up his own father, leaving him almost dead so he could fake his death. Like Madara said, Itachi was just following orders. Fugaku ultimately had the same goals as Danzo. He wanted to be Hokage and take revenge on the Senju. Danzo hates the Senju ideals and wants to be Hokage. Now that we're finding out that Danzo may be an Uchiha, it kinda makes sense that he'd be Fugaku.

There's also one other Uchiha that Danzo could be, but the only thing there is to support the idea is Danzo's physical condition. Messed up right arm, crushed right leg, sharingan missing from his left eye socket... He could be Obito. They never collect Obito's body and we never see him die at the end of the Kakashi Gaiden. But I feel like kakashi would have noticed by now.

Fugaku makes the most sense out of all the theories i have heard so far, thinking about it, we neer see danzou's other eye it could be a sharingan as well, but for sume reason his right eye is stuck on which is why he has it bandaged, that or he has no eyelid...

He could not be Obito though, the easiest reason for this is the age difference, and the fact that Danzou was around before Obito was born

 

[narutoWannabe366]

:teampein: :akatsuki:

well...
:naruto:
the story's gettin' spicy!

 

[narutosharingan]

Fugaku makes the most sense out of all the theories i have heard so far, thinking about it, we neer see danzou's other eye it could be a sharingan as well, but for sume reason his right eye is stuck on which is why he has it bandaged, that or he has no eyelid...

He could not be Obito though, the easiest reason for this is the age difference, and the fact that Danzou was around before Obito was born

Fugaku imean he lloved the uchiha clan why would he want to kill all of them.

 

[ZDBakka]

there are many problems with this theory that you obviousley havent seen as this was your first post... this discussion has been ongoing for the last couple chapters.

1st, danzou has problems with his arm and leg, madara/tobi does not

2nd, danzou has spent a lot of time and effort on ruling konoha while madara was once the mizukage. (he couldnt rule two nations at war with eachother)

3rd, danzou wants sasuke dead, madara wants him alive. madara wouldnt kill him as he wants to sync him with gedo mazo (effectively making him a jinchuriiki)

4th, madara needs the kyuubi for gedo mazo, if he was danzo he could have easily kidnapped naruto

thats all i can think of for now but basically although they are very similiar in appearance they have conflicting interests

I usually just read what everyone has to say about the weekly manga, but I gotta put my insight on this one.

Madara is capable of using space/time ninjutsu to appear wherever he wants whenever he wants. How do you know if Tobi isn't just a genjutsu created by Danzo who is actually Madara? Itachi did say he was a shell of his former self and Danzo didn't exactly appear until Madara dropped off the face of the earth after his battle with the 1st. He could've found the perfect way to hide himself by creating Danzo as what he is today. Now I know people have said Tobi is completely physical cause he blocked suigetsu's attack but it's also possible that Madara's techniques are advanced enough to create that kind of physical illusion, he is Madara after all....

I'm convinced to believe that he can be in multiple places at any given time hence why i'm saying all this. I mean where was "Danzo" when Madara forced the Kyuubi to attack konoha 16 years ago? Isn't he trying to make sure Konoha prospers? Wouldn't he show up in it's time of need? Yet, he hides in the shadows....I'm pretty sure he has multiple identities as an akatsuki leader and a kage to make sure everything is going his way.

I also think their hairstyles are way too similar along with the right eye and arm, plus he can take those bandages off anytime he likes.

Ok i'm done you guys can go back to arguing or argue with me about this

 

[jtstiff]

Fugaku makes the most sense out of all the theories i have heard so far, thinking about it, we neer see danzou's other eye it could be a sharingan as well, but for sume reason his right eye is stuck on which is why he has it bandaged, that or he has no eyelid...

He could not be Obito though, the easiest reason for this is the age difference, and the fact that Danzou was around before Obito was born

Ya never know, itachi might have cut his eyelid off too. It also makes sense, cause it'd be so dramatic to see the caption "DANZO IS SASUKE'S FATHER!!!!!!!11!!1!!"

 

[narutosharingan]

I usually just read what everyone has to say about the weekly manga, but I gotta put my insight on this one.

Madara is capable of using space/time ninjutsu to appear wherever he wants whenever he wants. How do you know if Tobi isn't just a genjutsu created by Danzo who is actually Madara? Itachi did say he was a shell of his former self and Danzo didn't exactly appear until Madara dropped off the face of the earth after his battle with the 1st. He could've found the perfect way to hide himself by creating Danzo as what he is today. Now I know people have said Tobi is completely physical cause he blocked suigetsu's attack but it's also possible that Madara's techniques are advanced enough to create that kind of physical illusion, he is Madara after all....

I'm convinced to believe that he can be in multiple places at any given time hence why i'm saying all this. I mean where was "Danzo" when Madara forced the Kyuubi to attack konoha 16 years ago? Isn't he trying to make sure Konoha prospers? Wouldn't he show up in it's time of need? Yet, he hides in the shadows....I'm pretty sure he has multiple identities as an akatsuki leader and a kage to make sure everything is going his way.

I also think their hairstyles are way too similar along with the right eye and arm, plus he can take those bandages off anytime he likes.

Ok i'm done you guys can go back to arguing or argue with me about this

ok i didn't get a single thing

 

[jtstiff]

I usually just read what everyone has to say about the weekly manga, but I gotta put my insight on this one.

Madara is capable of using space/time ninjutsu to appear wherever he wants whenever he wants. How do you know if Tobi isn't just a genjutsu created by Danzo who is actually Madara? Itachi did say he was a shell of his former self and Danzo didn't exactly appear until Madara dropped off the face of the earth after his battle with the 1st. He could've found the perfect way to hide himself by creating Danzo as what he is today. Now I know people have said Tobi is completely physical cause he blocked suigetsu's attack but it's also possible that Madara's techniques are advanced enough to create that kind of physical illusion, he is Madara after all....

I'm convinced to believe that he can be in multiple places at any given time hence why i'm saying all this. I mean where was "Danzo" when Madara forced the Kyuubi to attack konoha 16 years ago? Isn't he trying to make sure Konoha prospers? Wouldn't he show up in it's time of need? Yet, he hides in the shadows....I'm pretty sure he has multiple identities as an akatsuki leader and a kage to make sure everything is going his way.

I also think their hairstyles are way too similar along with the right eye and arm, plus he can take those bandages off anytime he likes.

Ok i'm done you guys can go back to arguing or argue with me about this

I agree with you, it's a possibility. What I wanna know is, How did Itachi find Madara to talk before killing the whole clan? Someone who slipped into obscurity all those years ago wouldn't be found unless they wanted to be. Thus, he had to be somewhere close by at all times. Posing as a village elder would be a great way to keep your eye on things.

However, I think I'm gonna stick to my Fugaku theory.

 

[YeS_I_AM]

Well he could have said that theman to capture sasuke will be and no one else and should have showed his sage mode then the raikage would've been...

No, he wouldn't. Do you think the raikage would let naruto capture sasuke, knowing that he is from konoha too? He wouldn't go for that 100%. He doesen't trust konoha, specially Uchiha. I mean, 2 powerfull missing-nin(Itachi and Sasuke) for about 10 years and 1 of them killed his brother(as he thinks). He wouldn't go with that...

 

[narutosharingan]

No, he wouldn't. Do you think the raikage would let naruto capture sasuke, knowing that he is from konoha too? He wouldn't go for that 100%. He doesen't trust konoha, specially Uchiha. I mean, 2 powerfull missing-nin(Itachi and Sasuke) for about 10 years and 1 of them killed his brother(as he thinks). He wouldn't go with that...

ok you got a point what if naruto finds kb and gives it to the raikage and in return he spares sasuke.