Im really starting to think people are over hyping kamui....

[Helikido]

People are saying Kamui can one shot anyone and everyone. But to me it won't work unless the object or person is traveling straight to kakashi since it has a linear attack based on sight. I think Kamui can easily be avoided as long as the person is on the move or is in the Air. I mean come on guys, Kamui failed to kill diedara while he was in the air. All it managed to do is to absorb one arm.

Also I don't know why people keep saying kakashi can solo everyone with Kamui? Do they not understand that if he is put up against people who are extremely fast (like raikage and naruto) and people with huge defenses (any susanoo user and or gaara) he won't be able to win? Seriously he's either gonna have a hard time landing it and and loose because of the impact MS has on him or he's not gonna be able to absorb the defence to reached the user (Like susanoo).

Also guys kakashi's chakra reserve still doesn't allow him to use his MS much. Please don't forget that he has had Naruto give him allot of chakra to help him out during the fight of Obito. Or did you guys already forget that mid fight he was already about to die because of chakra drainage before naruto gave him chakra?

So please quit claiming he can one shot everyone and everything.

 

[Desanto]

I get your point but most shinobi with no knowledge about his visual powers wouldn't even see it coming. So for the most part, yes, it is a 1 shot kill..

 

[Touken]

Kamui one shots.

He's Kamui'd a missile shot from Asura Path and when he tried to Kamui Deidara, he was really inexperienced with his MS. However, I don't think he'd be able to Kamui something as fast as BM Naruto or 3rd Raikage.

 

[Takos]

People are saying Kamui can one shot anyone and everyone. But to me it won't work unless the object or person is traveling straight to kakashi since it has a linear attack based on sight. I think Kamui can easily be avoided as long as the person is on the move or is in the Air. I mean come on guys, Kamui failed to kill diedara while he was in the air. All it managed to do is to absorb one arm.

Also I don't know why people keep saying kakashi can solo everyone with Kamui? Do they not understand that if he is put up against people who are extremely fast (like raikage and naruto) and people with huge defenses (any susanoo user and or gaara) he won't be able to win? Seriously he's either gonna have a hard time landing it and and loose because of the impact MS has on him or he's not gonna be able to absorb the defence to reached the user (Like susanoo).

Also guys kakashi's chakra reserve still doesn't allow him to use his MS much. Please don't forget that he has had Naruto give him allot of chakra to help him out during the fight of Obito. Or did you guys already forget that mid fight he was already about to die because of chakra drainage before naruto gave him chakra?

So please quit claiming he can one shot everyone and everything.

First bolded part: proved wrong by Naruto's clone getting kamuied. The clone was charging at Obito, not at Kakashi.
Second bolded part: Kakashi was already able to kamui Naruto's clone, so another point proved wrong. As for Susanoo, it's transparent so Kakashi can SEE his opponent through it. So once again, he can kamui him.
Third bolded part: Before Kakashi had ANY chakra replenished he used Kamui 6 times and that was already after halving his chakra in two by creating a raiton kage bunshin. So Kakashi at full chakra can use Kamui AT LEAST 12 times. How does it compare to Itachi, for example?

Sorry, but Kamui really is OP. It's OPness is only surpassed by Kotoamatsukami which has no known counters and doesn't even require the user to see his opponent.

 

[Helikido]

Kamui one shots.

He's Kamui'd a missile shot from Asura Path and when he tried to Kamui Deidara, he was really inexperienced with his MS. However, I don't think he'd be able to Kamui something as fast as BM Naruto or 3rd Raikage.

I see your point but many already know his ability. People are saying he can one shot itachi and sasuke for gods sake lol

 

[Black Wolf]

People are saying Kamui can one shot anyone and everyone. But to me it won't work unless the object or person is traveling straight to kakashi since it has a linear attack based on sight. I think Kamui can easily be avoided as long as the person is on the move or is in the Air.

Pain's missile, the Raikiri kunai, and BM Naruto clone were not traveling towards him.

I mean come on guys, Kamui failed to kill diedara while he was in the air. All it managed to do is to absorb one arm.

It's hilarious people continue to cite this as evidence. This was the first time Kakashi uses Kamui in a combat situation. He has undeniably improved it since then. A clear indicator that you are grasping for straws.

Do they not understand that if he is put up against people who are extremely fast (like raikage and naruto) and people with huge defenses (any susanoo user and or gaara) he won't be able to win?

The Raikage has to amp up his Shunshin before becoming a candidate for dodging it, and even with his maximum Shunshin, he just barely avoided Amaterasu - this is not to mention that Amaterasu gives off the visual cue of the user's eye bleeding, which helps when trying to avoid it. Kamui does not cause immediate eye-bleeding, nor does it require the build up Amaterasu requires (barring the warping of larger objects), not to mention it is faster.

Kakashi has shown the ability to warp Gedo Mazo's head, thus Susano'o is not large enough to provide immunity to Kamui. Furthermore, nothing dictates Kakashi has to warp the entire area of Susano'o - he can simply warp the portion in which the user is encasing themselves within.

Also guys kakashi's chakra reserve still doesn't allow him to use his MS much. Please don't forget that he has had Naruto give him allot of chakra to help him out during the fight of Obito. Or did you guys already forget that mid fight he was already about to die because of chakra drainage before naruto gave him chakra?

Kakashi used eight Raikiri variants, two Kage Bunshin (a jutsu that splits your remaining chakra in half), a Doton wall, and five Kamui (one of which was the size of Gedo Mazo's head) on panel, not to mention two days of fighting and having the Sharingan active before Naruto gave him anything. He can use Kamui tons of times with his current chakra reserves.

 

[xcoyote]

Kamui is kinda broken mate.Deal with it :|

 

[Prince Charles]

The fail in this hurts my eyes. Please dont make me get TURNT UP

 

[Oksus]

Kakashi can Kamui the area that's size of Juubi. He doesn't have to aim. Just kamui the general area around the target.

 

[Helikido]

First bolded part: proved wrong by Naruto's clone getting kamuied. The clone was charging at Obito, not at Kakashi.
Second bolded part: Kakashi was already able to kamui Naruto's clone, so another point proved wrong. As for Susanoo, it's transparent so Kakashi can SEE his opponent through it. So once again, he can kamui him.

Sorry, but Kamui is OP.

That's because he was in hi linear sight. He wasn't running sideways avoiding his linear sight. So next time read the OP properly buddy...

 

[ballerjordan]

Fast shinobi can dodge it (Ay, Naruto, etc)

FTG users

You could also distract or disrupt the Kamui users focus by using other objects like Hashirama who uses mokuton or Nagato who can use universal pull since Kakashi needs to focus on the target before casting kamui.

 

[Murasame]

First bolded part: proved wrong by Naruto's clone getting kamuied. The clone was charging at Obito, not at Kakashi.
Second bolded part: Kakashi was already able to kamui Naruto's clone, so another point proved wrong. As for Susanoo, it's transparent so Kakashi can SEE his opponent through it. So once again, he can kamui him.
Third bolded part: Before Kakashi had ANY chakra replenished he used Kamui 6 times and that was already after halving his chakra in two by creating a raiton kage bunshin. So Kakashi at full chakra can use Kamui AT LEAST 12 times. How does it compare to Itachi, for example?

Sorry, but Kamui is OP.

He Kamui'd a Naruto who wasn't going full speed... as for your other points I don't have much knowledge on it so I'll see what other people have to say.

 

[Takos]

That's because he was in hi linear sight. He wasn't running sideways avoiding his linear sight. So next time read the OP properly buddy...

That was just one example. Asura's missile had absolutely non-linear trajectory. He could still warp it with no troubles.

Besides, you only replied to one of my rebuttals. I'm interested in what you have to say about the others.

 

[Helikido]

Pain's missile, the Raikiri kunai, and BM Naruto clone were not traveling towards him.



It's hilarious people continue to cite this as evidence. This was the first time Kakashi uses Kamui in a combat situation. He has undeniably improved it since then. A clear indicator that you are grasping for straws.



The Raikage has to amp up his Shunshin before becoming a candidate for dodging it, and even with his maximum Shunshin, he just barely avoided Amaterasu - this is not to mention that Amaterasu gives off the visual cue of the user's eye bleeding, which helps when trying to avoid it. Kamui does not cause immediate eye-bleeding, nor does it require the build up Amaterasu requires (barring the warping of larger objects), not to mention it is faster.

Kakashi has shown the ability to warp Gedo Mazo's head, thus Susano'o is not large enough to provide immunity to Kamui. Furthermore, nothing dictates Kakashi has to warp the entire area of Susano'o - he can simply warp the portion in which the user is encasing themselves within.



Kakashi used eight Raikiri variants, two Kage Bunshin (a jutsu that splits your remaining chakra in half), a Doton wall, and five Kamui (one of which was the size of Gedo Mazo's head) on panel, not to mention two days of fighting and having the Sharingan active before Naruto gave him anything. He can use Kamui tons of times with his current chakra reserves.

Kakashi has already proved to us that a v3 susanoo is way too big for him to absorb. If he even tries to absorb it he will get oneshotted by amaturasu. That easy. Please don't say he can beat sasuke or itachi or any uchiha with ms at all.

Also about the rail age, his base speed is already fast enough to dodge it. Like I said, its simple if you avoid his linear sight.

 

[Black Wolf]

He Kamui'd a Naruto who wasn't going full speed... as for your other points I don't have much knowledge on it so I'll see what other people have to say.

Perhaps not full speed, but he was moving fast enough to be dodging massive Kamui propelled stakes in mid-air.

 

[Helikido]

That was just one example. Asura's missile had absolutely non-linear trajectory. He could still warp it with no troubles.

Besides, you only replied to one of my rebuttals. I'm interested in what you have to say about the others.

About the second one...why did he coward in fear claiming that he can't absorb the susanoo against sasuke before sasukes eyes whent out? Clearly he can't just use it when the openent has a good defense structure

 

[Touken]

I see your point but many already know his ability. People are saying he can one shot itachi and sasuke for gods sake lol

Of course he can, even if they're in Susanoo.

He's Kamui'd the Hachibi, why wouldn't he be able to Kamui Susanoo users?

 

[jiraiya the toad sage]

people just have to face it the enemy isn't always gonna psychically know when kakashi is attemting to use kamui sometimes enemies stand still to charge up attacks that alone is enough time for a one shot win. kamui=OP and that is a clear fact

 

[NOemotions]

most of them are just trolls that are trying to annoy people. but it's pretty good attack.

 

[Murasame]

Perhaps not full speed, but he was moving fast enough to be dodging massive Kamui propelled stakes in mid-air.

Still nothing close to his full speed.