Need to clear a few things up.

[ClydeFrog]

I decided to stray away from the from the pattern of redundant threads week in, and week out with the release of every new chapter. Today I just want to clear up two things have been bothering me:

1. What exactly did Jiraya teach Naruto in the time skip between part 1, and part 2?:

Aside from natural progression as a ninja (that Naruto could have made with Kakashi as his sensei) what exactly did Naruto learn? The training was meant to teach Naruto to harness the Kyuubi's chakra, yet when Naruto returned he was as hopeless as ever (in regards to controlling the 9 tails chakra).

He didn't get any better at Rasengan control either, since he still needed clones to form it, nor did he work on chakra nature training (Asuma, Kakashi, and Yamato helped with that). Now saying that Naruto did not improve at all from part 1 to 2 would be a lie, but as already stated what did Jiraya do that an adept shinobi such as Kakashi, or Ebisu couldn't teach Naruto?

I understand that leaving was as much to protect Naruto, as it was to train, but don't you think Jiraya could have done much more for him? Especially when witnessing the success he had with previous students (Minato, Yahiko, Nagato, Konan), and adding in the huge amount of improvement Naruto made after leaving Jirayas tutelage (Mastering Rasenshuriken, and Sage Mode).



2. How do you think Ay will react to encountering Sasuke once again?:

This is the guy who Naruto begged the Raikage not to kill, Naruto fell to his knees (in a winter climate) and litterally begged the Ay not to set out the order to eliminate Sasuke, and what does Sasuke do that very day? Attacks the Raikage with murderous intent, and in the process Ay loses his right arm.

Seeing as how the 4th Shinobi War is all about sparked the creation of the Ninja Alliance, and with Sasuke currently being a part of that Alliance, will Ay be able to "turn the cheek" for the greater good, and allow Sasuke to live? If Ay tries to kill Sasuke, all of the principles this war inspired will be tarnished, and another cycle of hatered will begin.

What is Ay's move here?

Discuss.

 

[straightup]

well naruto was better at summons. I don't think anyone but jman could have taught him that. but I actually thought hard to come up with that. so ya your pretty much right on Numbeer 1.

number 2 realistically ay should kill him. what will most likely happen is everyone forgives sasuke for some odd reason

 

[scorezor]

1. What exactly did Jiraya teach Naruto in the time skip between part 1, and part 2?

part 2, chakra control.

 

[RNITBmsage]

1 shuriken jutsu rasengan training the ninja vices
all basic ninja stuff
2 he is very rash and im sure he would be furious
but considering the matters at hand im sure naruto and the kages will be able to keep him calm

 

[Darksharinnegan]

I think ay will be fine since bee isn't dead

 

[oShux]

I decided to stray away from the from the pattern of redundant threads week in, and week out with the release of every new chapter. Today I just want to clear up two things have been bothering me:

1. What exactly did Jiraya teach Naruto in the time skip between part 1, and part 2?:

Aside from natural progression as a ninja (that Naruto could have made with Kakashi as his sensei) what exactly did Naruto learn? The training was meant to teach Naruto to harness the Kyuubi's chakra, yet when Naruto returned he was as hopeless as ever (in regards to controlling the 9 tails chakra).

He didn't get any better at Rasengan control either, since he still needed clones to form it, nor did he work on chakra nature training (Asuma, Kakashi, and Yamato helped with that). Now saying that Naruto did not improve at all from part 1 to 2 would be a lie, but as already stated what did Jiraya do that an adept shinobi such as Kakashi, or Ebisu couldn't teach Naruto?

I understand that leaving was as much to protect Naruto, as it was to train, but don't you think Jiraya could have done much more for him? Especially when witnessing the success he had with previous students (Minato, Yahiko, Nagato, Konan), and adding in the huge amount of improvement Naruto made after leaving Jirayas tutelage (Mastering Rasenshuriken, and Sage Mode).



2. How do you think Ay will react to encountering Sasuke once again?:

This is the guy who Naruto begged the Raikage not to kill, Naruto fell to his knees (in a winter climate) and litterally begged the Ay not to set out the order to eliminate Sasuke, and what does Sasuke do that very day? Attacks the Raikage with murderous intent, and in the process Ay loses his right arm.

Seeing as how the 4th Shinobi War is all about sparked the creation of the Ninja Alliance, and with Sasuke currently being a part of that Alliance, will Ay be able to "turn the cheek" for the greater good, and allow Sasuke to live? If Ay tries to kill Sasuke, all of the principles this war inspired will be tarnished, and another cycle of hatered will begin.

What is Ay's move here?

Discuss.

Summons I think, and better rasengans and PLOT.wait for Kishi to reveal the raikage part i bet it's gonna be like this Aye-IT'S THAT UCHIHA BRAT Everyone else-He's not the current enemy Aye- Fine but I'll be watching him don't you think I've forgotten what you've done or something corny like that

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That's right.

The best part about this post is that spiderman is my favorite super hero

 

[ClydeFrog]

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That's right.

Disregarded, lol

well naruto was better at summons. I don't think anyone but jman could have taught him that. but I actually thought hard to come up with that. so ya your pretty much right on Numbeer 1.

number 2 realistically ay should kill him. what will most likely happen is everyone forgives sasuke for some odd reason

Exactly how I feel, you really have to dig deep to find anything, like I said he improved dramatically after returning to Team 7.

I agree Ay should kill him, but it would mess up all the progress that has been made since the war started, and yeah seeing as how Kishimoto is a Sasuke sympathizer, he will find a way to work in Shinobi wide acceptance for him.

1. What exactly did Jiraya teach Naruto in the time skip between part 1, and part 2?

part 2, chakra control.

What?

1 shuriken jutsu rasengan training the ninja vices
all basic ninja stuff
2 he is very rash and im sure he would be furious
but considering the matters at hand im sure naruto and the kages will be able to keep him calm

Exactly, so pretty much stuff anyone could have taught him?

How will the kages keep him calm though? They aren't missing their Fap arms! How could they ever begin to understand?

I think ay will be fine since bee isn't dead

Yeah but....he's still missing his right arm!

 

[take it easy]

that jutsu.

 

[ClydeFrog]

that jutsu.

Care to elaborate there?

 

[RNITBmsage]

1 yep but teaching naruto isn't easy
plus he got one on one time with a sannin , most only get 1/3 of that with an average jounin.
2 the plot will help them lol

 

[ClydeFrog]

Yeah I know he got 1 on 1 time with a Sannin, that's my point. Compare his improvement (over the time skip not after) to that of Sasuke, and Sakura.

Plot indeed my friend, plot.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Jiraiya is a crappy irresposible teacher, unlike Orochimaru.

Also, there is nothing that this armless Ay could do to EMS Sasuke! He should beg to Sasuke not to kill him!

 

[uchihajaime]

2. A will forgive Sasuke. You mentioned the whole point of the war was reconciliation. Sasuke is fighting against Obito even after he had the upper hand and Obito called him a traitor. Most importantly, when A was healed, Suigetsu and Karin were right there. Both are as guilty as Sasuke in Killer Bee's kidnapping and the attack on the Summit. However, A didn't attack them. Finally, A was choosen was leader because A wasn't emotional after learning Killer Bee was alive. A will be able to logically see that Sasuke is a powerful ally

 

[ClydeFrog]

Jiraiya is a crappy irresposible teacher, unlike Orochimaru.

Also, there is nothing that this armless Ay could do to EMS Sasuke! He should beg to Sasuke not to kill him!

Your just being a Uchiha Fanboy :/ I wish I could take you seriously.

2. A will forgive Sasuke. You mentioned the whole point of the war was reconciliation. Sasuke is fighting against Obito even after he had the upper hand and Obito called him a traitor. Most importantly, when A was healed, Suigetsu and Karin were right there. Both are as guilty as Sasuke in Killer Bee's kidnapping and the attack on the Summit. However, A didn't attack them. Finally, A was choosen was leader because A wasn't emotional after learning Killer Bee was alive. A will be able to logically see that Sasuke is a powerful ally

I agree with most of what your saying, but A is actually the most emotional out of the Kage. He's shown throwing fits, and breaking furniture for no reason, what do you think he;d do to the kid that took his arm. IDK, I'm not convinced, though that;s probably the route Kishimoto will take.