Discussion concerning possible weakness to Yata Mirror

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Some members on the base have often stated that if there were more than one attack coming in contact with the mirror at the same time, that the mirror would not be able to change and synchronize it's properties to match the oncoming attacks. Lets say they are all different chakra natures for the sake of the argument...





However, the entry clearly states the mirror is able to change everyone of its properties. Properties as in plural. More than one attack. The key word here is property.

a quality or trait belonging and especially peculiar to an individual or thing - that's what the dictionary thinks it is.



Fire release is one of the basic nature transformations. Fire-based chakra is needed for someone to perform katon.
If I say that the "trait" is the fire-based chakra, and the individual or "thing" is the jutsu(lets say a simple fireball jutsu). Than that is one triat/chakra type for one thing/jutsu. So the ratio for trait to thing is 1: 1. Lets say that one of mei's lava ninjutsu strikes the mirror. The ratio for trait to thing is 2:1. Fire-based chakra and earth-based chakra make up this nature kekkei genkei. So the point I'm trying to convey here is that an attack could just have one property.(Fire ball jutsu). Whilst another attack could have two properties (one of mei's lava style techniques). Property is presented as plural in the databook entry. Lava style has more than one property. However, since yata can change and synch to more than one property it can be negated:p

I know the word attributes come to play, but that word is interchangeable with properties in this scenario, and in this scenario they are both plural.


Yes the Yata Mirror needs more feats but some members downplay it as if its not a spiritual item...



Food for thought



The yata mirror negated the kunais and the exploding tags attached to them. This should not be noted as an impressive feat, but rather noted as an attack other than chakra that was blocked by the yata mirror.

Don't hate, my boy itachi be on dat Solo Status:cool:
 

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It doesn't have weaknesses.. "The Yata Mirror deflects any attack used against it"
 

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Itachi solos via totsuka blitz thats what you wanted to hear?
 

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Gravity based jutsu.

But the real question isn't what are Yata Mirrors weaknesses, the question is what is Susanoos weakness.

Attacks from below and behind.
 

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Gravity based jutsu.

But the real question isn't what are Yata Mirrors weaknesses, the question is what is Susanoos weakness.

Attacks from below and behind.


It seems that you refuted weaknesses to susano, but not exactly the mirror itself:yeah:
 

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Gravity based jutsu.

But the real question isn't what are Yata Mirrors weaknesses, the question is what is Susanoos weakness.

Attacks from below and behind.
Madara's Susanoo has legs so it has no weakness from below. The weakness from behind only applies to the level 3 (Complete) Susanoo and below, Final Susanoo has additional armour encased around it removing the weakness from behind.
 

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What about Kamui? I dont think it can deflect it?
 

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What about Kamui? I dont think it can deflect it?

Kamui gets negated too...




Kamui can be categorized as astral, which the yata can tank=D
 

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Kamui gets negated too...




Kamui can be categorized as astral, which the yata can tank=D

What if it's not aimed at the Yata Mirror, but at Susano'o (or the user) itself? AKA from behind
 

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The yata mirror has already been shown to extend quite a distance, and I have many reasons to believe that the yata gives the user 360 degree protection



Look at the yata extend, giving itachi full protection from the explosion

Also this...



Look at the size of the yata mirror, at least half or less than half of the susano's size.

Then look what happens...



Unless my eyes are deceiving me or did the Yata just instantly increase in size to protect itachi?

The yata helps keeps itachi's solo status ya dig? :itachi:
 

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I think Yata Mirror's weakness is that it can't block attacks coming from under ground.
 

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I think Yata Mirror's weakness is that it can't block attacks coming from under ground.

Ya I can see where ur coming from... since it seems that the susano's weakness(not including madara's ps) are attacks from below...

However the yata is categorized as a spiritual weapon, and has been described as something not physical. Therefore, I have reasons to believe it could extend underground given its not really physical.

Yes I know the yata needs more feats and panel time. Also i'm quite skeptical myself on how it blocks White Rage or other sound genjutsu ... Oh well =D
 

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Sound genjutsu is unlikely to work given it can probably change it's properties and deafen out any noise.

Though how it would recognize the sound genjutsu prior to being used would be questionable. With something like Gama Rinsho, the effect appears to be instant, the second you hear it, you're trapped. Dunno if the Yata Mirror could react fast enough to cancel out the noise.
 

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Sound genjutsu is unlikely to work given it can probably change it's properties and deafen out any noise.

Though how it would recognize the sound genjutsu prior to being used would be questionable. With something like Gama Rinsho, the effect appears to be instant, the second you hear it, you're trapped. Dunno if the Yata Mirror could react fast enough to cancel out the noise.

Very good point... I know Owarij had a couple of scans to where yata in one panel increased in diameter instantly, then in the next panel was its original size...

The mechanics of the yata are quite strange... It being a mirror I wonder if it uses the same jutsu or attack that it come in direct contact with, sorta like it reflecting the attack/jutsu...
 
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