Obito your making me hate you. Just stop

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All this talk about obito and rin,

Yet people forget Madara and hashirama? :rolleyes:

Madara literally Carved out hashirama's head into his heart.

talk about bromance.
 

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All this talk about obito and rin,

Yet people forget Madara and hashirama? :rollseyes:

Madara literally Carved out hashirama's head into his heart.

talk about bromance.
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True love U_U
 

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All this talk about obito and rin,

Yet people forget Madara and hashirama? :rolleyes:

Madara literally Carved out hashirama's head into his heart.

talk about bromance.

HashiMada is canon, bright as the day.
Kishi needs to pull the trigger.

Hashimada: Madara!!!!!!!!!!!!

Madara: Hashirama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Running towards each other*

Kishu~<3
 

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All this talk about obito and rin,

Yet people forget Madara and hashirama? :rolleyes:

Madara literally Carved out hashirama's head into his heart.

talk about bromance.
I agree with this... Also Naruto has been acting like a fool for Sasuke all his life atleast Obito doing it for a girl instead of a man...
 

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Even though i can completely understand where you're coming from ..i still like Obito and all of his asshattery .
I appreciate how he wont give up on what he believes in regardless of what Minato and Kakashi ..people he once cared about, are telling him. It's also pretty sweet that Naruto hasn't TNJ him yet too ^ ^.
He's the perfect villain in my eyes and one who is bit relate-able as well.
But what can i say i just love-hating the guy .=D
 

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HashiMada is canon, bright as the day.
Kishi needs to pull the trigger.

Hashimada: Madara!!!!!!!!!!!!

Madara: Hashirama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Running towards each other*

Kishu~<3
i agree, its very much cannon. U_U
I agree with this... Also Naruto has been acting like a fool for Sasuke all his life atleast Obito doing it for a girl instead of a man...

Exactly.
 

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I agree with this... Also Naruto has been acting like a fool for Sasuke all his life atleast Obito doing it for a girl instead of a man...

There is nothing wrong with him wanting some sasuke-kun!
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Obito is pmsing
 

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Villains are suppose to be hated. This idiot caused a war because a girl that friendzoned him died. Selfishly kills people so he can make some sick twisted fake world where he can hook up with said girl.

Obito is pretty pathetic.
 

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as much as i hate obito he didn't do anything that retarded this chapter. in fact he actually was cooler this chapter than the previous ones

Agreed................................................................
 

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Dont tell me how to act during debates lol, if you dont want to respond to my argument & have excuses based on my maturity then it just tells me that you have no viable way to respond.

Dont be mad because I said "swag", seriously if you're so uptight about it then maybe you should just let it go? Lol, if you didnt mention it in the first place then I wouldnt have even said anything to so its your own fault for fanning the fire, now then.

If you want to be taken seriously, act as such. It's a fairly simple concept to grasp. There are ways to respond to a post that will get you taken seriously. Had you took the time to state your opinion with decorum as others did before you, there would be no need for this discussion now would there? If you wanted a debate, then speak to me with the intention to debate, not sound like a typical fanboy. If you do so, I will simply disregard you like one. Since you've improved yourself and came to me like a debater, now I'll treat you like one. Let's begin.

Telling me that I use words like a child is implying that you think I am immature & thus a child. Otherwise you wouldnt disregard my entire post, & btw why does what I say bother you to the point where you cant respond to me? That seems a little immature in & of itself. So why are you avoiding the topic? Is it because I act like a child? Not likely, lol.
Wow what a fail, you said that I'm most likely a child, & I said that I'm most likely older than you. Yet you go on to say that I dont know your age & thus this point is invalid? Hypocrite much? :O

Pay close attention to the words you bolded. "Like a child". Do you see that word, "like"? That means I am using a simile to compare your ACTIONS to that of a child. You do know what a simile is, right? I did not state that you are one. Which means my post still applies, if my simile affected you, then obviously it applied to you or you wouldn't have gotten so irate. And yes, if you cannot post with decorum and act like you have even the smallest amount of brain cells, I won't waste my time communicating with you.

Pay attention to the part I bolded. Now tell me, "master debater" where have I stated that? Did I say that you were older than me? No, you did. I simply told you that since you do not know my age, that statement was invalid.


You have no idea how old I am, saying that I'm most likely a child is also invalid :yeah:

Now you cannot say that I am a hypocrite, because unlike you, I never said you were a child or that I was older than you. If anything, you are the hypocrite because that was the point you made in your reply. If you are going to come at me, by all means, come correctly.



Lol so another excuse to avoid the main topic, this is actually sad. Why dont you disregard all of this & stop straying off topic? You know that its immature if you cant let something as petty as this go *_*.

Again, you just debunked your entire statement on my hypocrisy but stating that I am immature. Like I said countless times before, if you want to debate with me, act as such and I will accommodate you. If you want to speak as if you are a typical fanboy, I will not take you seriously and ignore you as such. Any more self statements that you want to debunk?
Lmfao! Now you're going on to talk about my status? This is too funny XD. My rep tells me that people acknowledge my opinion which is more than I can even ask for. I have the right to call myself whatever I want, I dont need a seal of approval from anybody, especially people on the internet, LOL.

Yes I am. If you are going to call yourself a "master debater", I'm going to expect you to live up to what you claim. Also, you don't seem to grasp the concept of reputation. Reputation means someone likes your post or agrees with that you have to say, that doesn't mean you are a master at anything. Take a look at the bolded part, you claim such thoughts, but yet, here you are using reputation as evidence. That seems to say otherwise, 'ne?

Now respond to this, or are you going to find excuses as to why i'm to "immature" for you high standings, Hahah..

Now that the pointless topic about your life story is done, let's get "dance", shall we?

This is such a poor argument, take orochimaru's parents out of the equation & he is good, take izuna out of the equation & madara wouldnt have grown hate, take sasuke's parents out of the equation & he would be a konoha ninja.

That is only part of said argument and your rebuttal is just as poor, if not, even moreso. Hiruzen said that there was always something "off" about Orochimaru. Regardless of if his parents were alive, he'd still be evil. Remember that Orochimaru mastered Edo Tensei, if that was the case, he'd simply bring them back. Same for Madara. The Uchiha clan always distrusted the Senju clan, had Izuna not died, things would have still remained the same. Think about it, Hashirama stated that Madara had four younger brothers including Izuna. If this was truly about Izuna as Rin is for Obito, why didn't Madara snap when his other brothers died? Also remember that even though Madara was upset at his brother's death, he was willing to move past that when Hashirama was willing to kill himself. It was Tobirama's distrust and refusal to allow Madara become Hokage that made him realise that hope was futile. Concerning Sasuke, he's just the same as Obito, only when he was finally told the truth about his brother by Tobi and Hashirama, he let their deaths go. Obito has yet to do any of that.

See? You think its all about who dies, rin dies so that's why obito feels he has to start this war...NO...Madara convinced him to become evil, just as itachi did to sasuke by killing his parents & thus forcing him to grow his own hate.

Like I said above, it's not about who dies in Madara's case. Or any of the other villains I mentioned in my earlier posts. But with Obito, it applies. Had it been anyone else, Obito wouldn't have done the things he's done. When Rin died, that's when he cracked. Normally, I'd agree with you when you say it's not about him, but with him constantly mentioning it and referencing it, that starts to show otherwise as the other villains hadn't done so.

Sure you dont see sasuke whining about his parents but he whines almost all the time about Itachi & how he needs to "restore the clan". Obito's goal is much larger than that & rin was merely the catalyst. Yes if rin was alive then obito would be good but if she was dead then he would still be good as well. Madara was the one who pulled the trigger & twisted his ideals, he didnt decide to wage war all by himself, lol.

Obito's goal isn't larger. Yes you raise a point in how Madara twisted his ideals, but think of it this way, Madara gave his plans more depth. Without it, it would fully revolve around Rin. Sasuke is similar in that case. Also, think about all the Rin flashbacks he's had. Even if a situation had nothing to do with Rin, he'd find a way to make it about her, as the latest chapter shows. Also, take note how he didn't go through with Madara's plan because of what? His thoughts about Rin. Unlike the other villains, he can't seem to let that go. That is many people's issue here.

Naruto also went berserk & fell to his darkness due to kurama's influence, if minato wasnt there to comfort him then kurama would've taken over. Same concept with obito, if minato was there to comfort him instead of madara then there is absolutely no way that he would be the way he is, therefore rin is not the reason for his defection but rather the influence caused by madara who pushed obito & gave him all the resources he needed.

Remember that his team thought he was dead. Considering the injury, we can't blame them. Madara could have persuaded him ad infinitum, but if he felt that Rin should rest in peace, they would all be for naught. Also, one can't influence someone to do something that they never cared or had any intentions to do. The thought of Rin had to be in Obito's mind for Madara's manipulation to have been effective. Think of it like this, I could convince you to hurt yourself all I want, but if you don;t want to do it, I won't have any success in getting you to.

Dont forget that madara is around a decade old, obito was 14, madara knows of the uchiha's emotional state, & teenagers can be easily influenced. These are all factors that you must consider otherwise you are just hating as I said earlier :cool:.

That's true but heed what I said before, if Obito didn't have the thought in his mind, nothing Madara would have done would have worked. Also, remember that Madara was elderly and would die soon, therefore ending his influence. Even as Madara passed and no longer could manipulate him, Obito still continued his plan. When Madara was revived and he was confronted, he still continued on. Now this time it's on him.

My responses are in the quote in purple as I am way too lazy to reformat them. xd
 

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Kakashi had just as much, if not more reason to become evil if he had any contact with Madara. He had to witness both Obito and Rin dying for the sake of others (the latter unwillingly by his own hand), and then lose Minato less than a year later.

When Obito gives his life to protect others, he expects everyone to be okay with it, if Rin does the same, it's World War IV.

Obito is basically like the Joker. He tries to prove that anyone can be evil with just the right push.
 

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Why is everyone getting butthurt because obito is telling the true. Minato was a shitty sensei and was never there for his students when they really needed him. He really isn't all that amazing when you think about it.
 
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