Obito your making me hate you. Just stop

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the reason obito is getting a lot of development and "rin flashbacks" is because Obito parallels the main character and thus His reasoning is more important.

We need to know everything about obito's Thinking and His history because hes going up against the main character.

Otherwise, If obito wasn't paralleled with naruto, We would barely hear anything about rin since his history wouldn't be Plot wise important.

iiiiiii disagree.....to an extent. i believe they are still appearing because chharacters affiliated with obito are present. those who may or may not know about what hes going through. kakashi and minato. naruto being minatos son might crush a small nerve though.
 

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It's not anyone's fault Obito doesn't have the balls to handle the death of a crush and being fooled by Madara.
If he knew how to handle himself then this all wouldn't have happened.
If we had more information on how Obito sincerely feels about Rin, then I might buy it.
Kakashi is probably the one that feels the most guilty for killing Rin in his hands.
I hate his OP-ness.
 

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He's an Uchiha get used to it

They are all bunch of weirdos,including itachi.

It's not anyone's fault Obito doesn't have the balls to handle the death of a crush and being fooled by Madara.
If we had more information on how Obito sincerely feels about Rin, then I might buy it.
Kakashi is probably the one that feels the most guilty for killing Rin in his hands.
I hate his OP-ness.
I dislike obito but I'm sure he loves Rin. Too bad it didn't become canon and she loved kakashi.
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Nagato didn't mention anything about Yahiko because he was concealing his identity like Obito did with Tobi. Obito would have never declared the war had the Five Kage actually cooperated with him.

But even as Nagato's identity was revealed, he didn't go on some tireless rampage because Yahiko died. Once he was revealed his plans didn't revolve around Yahiko's death. When he was brought back with Edo Tensei, he still didn't mention Yahiko. Nor did he feel the need to berate and ridicule others because they had an indirect cause in Yahiko's death or didn't help prevent it.

Everything Obito is doing is because of Rin's death or could be linked to it. Why would the Five Kage cooperate with someone who is causing all this unnecessary death for a girl who died years ago? Also, all those other villains you listed, eventually got over those deaths. Obito didn't. That's why so many people dislike him. The rabid fanboys, yeah they make it worse.
 

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Are you serious? Nagato basically started the war on Jinchuuriki and he formed the Akatsuki, who were a group of criminals who have done crazy things in the world. Orochimaru started the war on Konoha and killed the Kazekage, etc. Madara already knew this was going to happen. Obito is finishing what Madara and Nagato couldn't.
Lord Obito will bring peace and harmony in the world. You will be dealt with in Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Mmm hm, okay. Now tell me, is any of that any bigger than causing an entire world war? I thought not.
 

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But even as Nagato's identity was revealed, he didn't go on some tireless rampage because Yahiko died. Once he was revealed his plans didn't revolve around Yahiko's death. When he was brought back with Edo Tensei, he still didn't mention Yahiko. Nor did he feel the need to berate and ridicule others because they had an indirect cause in Yahiko's death or didn't help prevent it.

Everything Obito is doing is because of Rin's death or could be linked to it. Why would the Five Kage cooperate with someone who is causing all this unnecessary death for a girl who died years ago? Also, all those other villains you listed, eventually got over those deaths. Obito didn't. That's why so many people dislike him. The rabid fanboys, yeah they make it worse.

Nagato didn't mention anything when he was an Edo because he was a changed man by Naruto so he didn't rant about it. And as I recall Madara didn't get over Izuna's death, he tried to destroy Konoha countless times before he was stopped by Hashirama.
 

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Obito & minato just confirmed that had minato been there to help obito through his pain then he would not have turned out the way he is now. He didnt even mention rin for god's sake...

You haters need to stop with the rin stuff, its your only scapegoat to downplay a great character who trolls the entire series .
 

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Mmm hm, okay. Now tell me, is any of that any bigger than causing an entire world war? I thought not.

I said Obito is finishing what Madara and Nagato couldn't. If they were alive, they would've started the world war instead of him. If anything, Kabuto is the cause of this war, if it wasn't for the Edo Tensei, Obito would've been fodderized by now.

You will be dealt with when Infinite Tsukuyomi is complete, MARK my words ShiningStar.
 

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I liked his attitude, it reminded me of his "Madara" days..
 

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Nagato didn't mention anything when he was an Edo because he was a changed man by Naruto so he didn't rant about it. And as I recall Madara didn't get over Izuna's death, he tried to destroy Konoha countless times before he was stopped by Hashirama.
But like I said, does he ever bring it up? Did you ever hear Madara currently whine about Izuna's death verbatim? You didn't find out about it until Obito and Hashirama told you, am I right? Is Madara talking about it now? Is Madara making references about his death now? Is Madara starting a world war over it? No. I thought not. And for your information, Madara did get over Izuna's death. It wasn't until Tobirama decided to speak against making him Hokage, when he finally decided that he would never be trusted and that his clan would be subjugated, that he snapped and left Konoha for good. He was perfectly fine with trusting Hashirama's ideals until that event.
 

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But like I said, does he ever bring it up? Did you ever hear Madara currently whine about Izuna's death verbatim? You didn't find out about it until Obito and Hashirama told you, am I right? Is Madara talking about it now? Is Madara making references about his death now? Is Madara starting a world war over it? No. I thought not. And for your information, Madara did get over Izuna's death. It wasn't until Tobirama decided to speak against making him Hokage, when he finally decided that he would never be trusted and that his clan would be subjugated, that he snapped and left Konoha for good. He was perfectly fine with trusting Hashirama's ideals until that event.
Your murdering the guy, come on now. Lets just go :)
 

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But like I said, does he ever bring it up? Did you ever hear Madara currently whine about Izuna's death verbatim? You didn't find out about it until Obito and Hashirama told you, am I right? Is Madara talking about it now? Is Madara making references about his death now? Is Madara starting a world war over it? No. I thought not. And for your information, Madara did get over Izuna's death. It wasn't until Tobirama decided to speak against making him Hokage, when he finally decided that he would never be trusted and that his clan would be subjugated, that he snapped and left Konoha for good. He was perfectly fine with trusting Hashirama's ideals until that event.

Obito brings it up because he guilt trips Minato and Kakashi. If they weren't there he wouldn't be talking about it as much. And we had to find out Obito's backstory from himself because nobody was around to witness it. And once again the war was to retrieve the Bijuu. If Madara was alive, he would do the same.
 

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Obito tells it like it is always, dude sugar-coats nothing every thing he said was the 100% Truth
 

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Yep. I think they've had enough for now. :heh:

You know you've got 'em when they start threatening you with fictional jutsu. XD
XD lmao! You know you need to just up and leave when they start threatening you with ficitonal jutsu. XD
 

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Obito brings it up because he guilt trips Minato and Kakashi. If they weren't there he wouldn't be talking about it as much. And we had to find out Obito's backstory from himself because nobody was around to witness it.
That's it? You take a long break and you come back with this? Tsk tsk. I expected better. :erm:

Also, that logic of yours is flawed. Hashirama is right in front of Madara, and Tobirama is still in the area, yet you don't hear a peep from Madara. Why? Because he's actually a well developed villain. Same applies to Nagato, you don't see him tireless complaining about his "Woe is me" backstory to Jiraiya now do we? Orochimaru has fought Tsunade and Hiruzen yet he feels no need to "guilt trip" them. Why? Because unlike Obito, his plans don't revolve around the death of his parents. None of the villains sans Obito are seen blabbing about their backstory because unlike Obito, it's not their focal point. That in itself allows them to get things done.

If you are ever going to convince me that Obito's entire plan does not revolve around Rin, you're going to have to do much better than that. Don't worry hun, I'll wait. :heh:
 

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I can almost guarantee you that ALL of this Obito nonsense would not have happened if she did not die.

Lol missed this, completely false lmao :p

Had madara not been there to turn obito evil then he would not be the way he is now, if you think otherwise then you are exactly like all of the other close-minded individuals who hate just for the sake of hating.

This chapter confirms that had minato been there to help obito when he was grieving then this war would not have started. You just choose to ignore it.

Lol I just noticed something, a lot of chicks hate obito XD

#Uchihaswag
 

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That's it? You take a long break and you come back with this? Tsk tsk. I expected better. :erm:

Also, that logic of yours is flawed. Hashirama is right in front of Madara, and Tobirama is still in the area, yet you don't hear a peep from Madara. Why? Because he's actually a well developed villain. Same applies to Nagato, you don't see him tireless complaining about his "Woe is me" backstory to Jiraiya now do we? Orochimaru has fought Tsunade and Hiruzen yet he feels no need to "guilt trip" them. Why? Because unlike Obito, his plans don't revolve around the death of his parents. None of the villains sans Obito are seen blabbing about their backstory because unlike Obito, it's not their focal point. That in itself allows them to get things done.

If you are ever going to convince me that Obito's entire plan does not revolve around Rin, you're going to have to do much better than that. Don't worry hun, I'll wait. :heh:

Sorry to interrupt, but I just thought this was perfect for this moment on your last sentence to him.
Nice debate, too.
Your a good at it.
 

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Lol missed this, completely false lmao :p

Had madara not been there to turn obito evil then he would not be the way he is now, if you think otherwise then you are exactly like all of the other close-minded individuals who hate just for the sake of hating.

This chapter confirms that had minato been there to help obito when he was grieving then this war would not have started. You just choose to ignore it.

Lol I just noticed something, a lot of chicks hate obito XD

#Uchihaswag

Hold up! You ain't about to putting blame on my homie, Minato.
 
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