Sennin of Logic
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All that means is that SM Naruto is not stronger than MS Sasuke. However, he did not say he wouldn't be able to take Sasuke down with him, which is what he said previously. You don't beat someone to get into a tie.
Sasuke sharingan or Naruto Sage mode
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Wrong. If he absorves natural energy it will be a new energy that would enter naruto's chakra system. Natural energy, senjutsu chakra, isn't the same as naruto's chakra. Using natural energy could wake him from the genjutsu.
MinatoTheYellowFlash
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Wow dude I said nothing about them dying idc if they die Naruto said it himself. If he can't defeat him he loses just please stop this. Its over 3 tomoe = SM and MS > SM Naruto.
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MinatoTheYellowFlash
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He needs the fox to even fight Sasuke, he said it himself:
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Sennin of Logic
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Which, according to the previous statement, means that they're equals and they'd tie. I know you don't like Naruto but sheesh, use the definition of beat and tie.
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He knew Sasuke would train and improve, so he knew he had to get Kurama to match what Sasuke is becoming. This wasn't right after their encounter.
MinatoTheYellowFlash
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THAT'S WHAT I SAID ON THE FIRST PAGE! LOL, finally don't come up with stuff I like him but I don't like when people just use anything to say he > someone. Espically to the person that already beaten him and this is what he actually said:
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MinatoTheYellowFlash
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He knew he would lose u_u so MS > SM. So SM can only be compared to guess what....3 tomoe (smirk)
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I'm not a fanboy, I don't have sasuke pics everywhere like you. That was bluff dude, to scare sasuke, he admitted he couldn't beat sasuke with sm or raw power alone.
Also 3 tomoe distance:
[video=youtube;Hx8ZLdYTfDk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hx8ZLdYTfDk[/video]
Sasuke would if naruto was lying. You have no proof that it was a bluff. He said that he can't beat sasuke, but he didn't say sasuke could beat him. He said it would be a tie.
3 tomoe's distance is still not bigger than the one naruto SM did.
I'm wrong? well, this is new...so, it's that day to school someone?
When Naruto absorbs Natural Energy(Senjutsu/Sennin Mōdo) he able to augment both his original Chakra and the Natural Energy into new form of Chakra know as "Senjutsu"...which means the Natural Chakra he's absorbing is getting mixed with his original Chakra(which is his already a disrupted Charka)....this discussion should be over, but you can still try harder.
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When naruto is in base form, and he abosrves natural energy, he merges his original chakra with senjutsu chakra. Raw natural energy is not naruto's chakra. He merges it with his chakra, then is disturbs, changes the chakra flow of the person. That can wake him from the genjutsu. You should read more carefully the scans you post.
It seems you're no longer even have any idea as to what you're talking...you're just all over and ignorant tell me to read the scan i posted when you can't even do the same....it also seems you're telling something i already know and never claim to be (such as natural energy not being Naruto's chakra) to look smart-ass...that's a very bad argument.Take your own advice instead of trying to look smart-ass.
Fukasaku states that the person must augment(increase or add) the Natural Energy to his/her original Chakra to creating a new Chakra....this would simply would fail because the Natural Energy Has to augment with the Naruto's Original Chakra(which i already stated to disrupted Charka do the Genjutsu),,,Natural Enegry would fail because it's mixing with the disrupted Chakra....like i said before...this argument is over and you can just keep trying harder, while i just keep proving you wrong.
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^Read the whole page before replying and shooting out nonsense.
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I'm not sooting nonsense. You're the one who should learn to relate things here. The fact that you're mixing the natural chakra to the chakra fo the one who is in the genjutsu is what would wake him. The user would be adding outsider chakra/energy to his own, mix and balance this energy with his own. This would obviouslly disturb the regular chakra flow of the one who is under the genjutsu. You're just saying that it wouldn't work, but you barely prove it. Adding outside chakra to the user's chakra flow would disturb the chakra flow, because natural energy, senjutsu chakra, is not originally the same as the user's regular chakra. Using logic, you see that it could disturb the chakra flow. If it is a very powerful genjutsu, maybe it wouldn't disturb hard enough to wake the SM user, but it is a possibility. This discussion os over for you.
Again, this the great example i was talking of you saying pure nonsense and it's getting really hard to deal with it since you won't even get the simplest thing into that head of yours.
The reason why another person's Chakra is able to release another one from Genjutsu is because their Chakra never gets mix or augment with the other unlike Naruto using Natural Energy....SM Naruto fails to Genjutsu without another person placing their Chakra on to him and it's simple as that....so, get that through you head but seeing how the other attempts never worked on you with you reasoning against logic and prove...i won't be surprised if this doesn't work.
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I know the discussion isn't over for me since my debating skills are far superior to that of yours whether you like it or not.
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No, your debating skills are not. I still don't know why you insult me, but that doesn't matter. You're the one who fails to understand that the fact that the natural energy enters naruto's chakra and mix with it would disturb it's chakra. First, in your scan, it was never stated that the other person's chakra don't mix with the chakra of the one who is under the genjutsu. To disturb the chakra flow, one would have to add his chakra into the "chakra veins"(in which the chakra flows, obviouslly). This could mix both chakras, even if it's a small part of the other person.
The natural energy would be able to serve this purpose. Why? Because it does enter the chakra flow in order to mix with the SM user's chakra. An outsider agent, when put into a balanced system, disturb the original state of this system. Therefore, even before mixing with the user's chakra, the natural energy already disturbs the flow, simply because of the fact that it is more energy entering a system(the chakra system of the SM user). This might be or might not be enough to wake the user from the genjutsu.
You always have to insult my arguments and myself. I proved very well what I said, with logic. Anyone who reads this will understand. If you understand a bit of science and physics, you will understand this. Relate this to the balance of a system.