What level Kage is Tsunade really?

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She is jounin level. She already got humiliated by Kabuto in Part 1, pre-Orochimaru absorption.
 

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You make no sense bro. Sand is insoluble in acid you should know that from chemistry class and only in super strong I mean strong acid it rots slowly. So like I said his sand is either stopping the slug or slowing it down. Ez. Next thing is you say he can only levitate but levitate is a form of flying. That is like saying a Helicopter only levitates but it does not fly bro. With this your saying his sand can be cut off from the ground?

Have we seen plenty of times where Gaara disconnect from the ground. Yes we have. Reread the manga and watch the anime it is not happening. Example ez
1556 where is the sand touching the ground? Are you going to say now Tsunade can hop and punch?
[video=youtube;8_9rn-knKhE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_9rn-knKhE[/video]

Now your saying tel port transportation is an example how fast her cells are. Bro really? Really? That is why Ay does it a few times... But what about Mei? So Mei can heal herself super fast too right? Throw that in the trash with that other simple logic.

Lasty, you say Ay could not land a single blow. He would be landing blows on his second stage level. It would not be a single blow but it would be countless blows until he opens her up.

Final lava does kill. She is blocking with what her arms? Lava melts anything Lava is that dangerous that is how the earth was created. Lava is way hotter than fire and fire took AY arm which the slug could not bring back.

When she does heal it is not super fast instant arms. It is more of screaming in pain while mei still shoots it out with her. Like I say Mei and her might be tied by she is not super better than the rest.
She is not built like that right now. If she was a car she would be a American made minivan , comfortable for the kids, great support, good for moving stuff. But compared to Totoya she is not in it for the long run, to a super sport car she does not have the speed, and to a pick-up truck barely moving weight.

I believe he was talking about the item transporter and raikage and ay used, that is wayy different to what mei used. If mei went into that she would die, therefore it is a valid example of his rapid tsunade can heal.

Lava in that manga is highly nerfed, it's clear to see it does not have all its traits it would irl. Tsunade could tank that. Fire extinction should incinerate her she took it on, plus she can dodge it just like everyone else does, this isnt a tag team where ay can help her get tsunade into the lava.

Actually ay shopped his own arm off. Amerterasu is hotter than the sun. Yet what has become of that. I've not seen Tsunade scream in pain for every hit she gets when in that mode and thus leaving her open for any form of attack. The last time she saved them by tanking the katon her jutsu ran out almost right after it healed.

All Tsunade has to do is pressure her with taijutsu and she can't form any seals.

As for gaara she may only be able to slowly melt his sand (because we don't know the intensity of her acid) But im pretty sure gaara's sand can't do anything to katsuya other than try to push her back from him in which she can still bury him in acid as she pleases distracting him tsunade could end his life with one of her deadly blows. Gaara has never been one to take physical hits.
 

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Mid at best.

the other kages could defeat her except mabye mei
 

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You make no sense bro. Sand is insoluble in acid you should know that from chemistry class and only in super strong I mean strong acid it rots slowly. So like I said his sand is either stopping the slug or slowing it down. Ez. Next thing is you say he can only levitate but levitate is a form of flying. That is like saying a Helicopter only levitates but it does not fly bro. With this your saying his sand can be cut off from the ground?

Have we seen plenty of times where Gaara disconnect from the ground. Yes we have. Reread the manga and watch the anime it is not happening. Example ez
1556 where is the sand touching the ground? Are you going to say now Tsunade can hop and punch?
[video=youtube;8_9rn-knKhE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_9rn-knKhE[/video]

Now your saying tel port transportation is an example how fast her cells are. Bro really? Really? That is why Ay does it a few times... But what about Mei? So Mei can heal herself super fast too right? Throw that in the trash with that other simple logic.

Lasty, you say Ay could not land a single blow. He would be landing blows on his second stage level. It would not be a single blow but it would be countless blows until he opens her up.

Final lava does kill. She is blocking with what her arms? Lava melts anything Lava is that dangerous that is how the earth was created. Lava is way hotter than fire and fire took AY arm which the slug could not bring back.

When she does heal it is not super fast instant arms. It is more of screaming in pain while mei still shoots it out with her. Like I say Mei and her might be tied by she is not super better than the rest.
She is not built like that right now. If she was a car she would be a American made minivan , comfortable for the kids, great support, good for moving stuff. But compared to Totoya she is not in it for the long run, to a super sport car she does not have the speed, and to a pick-up truck barely moving weight.

I believe he was talking about the item transporter and raikage and tsunade used, that is wayy different to what mei used. If mei went into that she would die, therefore it is a valid example of his rapid tsunade can heal.

Lava in that manga is highly nerfed, it's clear to see it does not have all its traits it would irl. Tsunade could tank that. Fire extinction should incinerate her she took it on, plus she can dodge it just like everyone else does, this isnt a tag team where ay can help her get tsunade into the lava.

Actually ay shopped his own arm off. Amerterasu is hotter than the sun. Yet what has become of that. I've not seen Tsunade scream in pain for every hit she gets when in that mode and thus leaving her open for any form of attack. The last time she saved them by tanking the katon her jutsu ran out almost right after it healed.

All Tsunade has to do is pressure her with taijutsu and she can't form any seals.

As for gaara she may only be able to slowly melt his sand (because we don't know the intensity of her acid) But im pretty sure gaara's sand can't do anything to katsuya other than try to push her back from him in which she can still bury him in acid as she pleases distracting him tsunade could end his life with one of her deadly blows. Gaara has never been one to take physical hits.
 

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Point taken sloppy she got hit as many time a regular person would die from. Most people avoid taking damage but she gets the damage. If you recall she was fighting with cuts.

Ebisu is low jonin . People everyday meet tittles they can not live up to base on experience , skills set etc...
Thats why they even have grading systems in life because people like Ebisu if he took on a mission vs Zabuza he be dead. If this was a grading and you needed a D to pass Ebisu is the D while real jonnin is A+.

Exactly, a regular person, tsunade gives no shits when in byakugou mode so she was just going at it.

I can believe people have more experience in respective ranks, but if we went by experience alone onoki and tsunade would be on top for the current kage then. It's all about their skill sets in this ranking everyone is doing not experience so i stand by what i say when i say they all should just be ranked as kage their different abilities just put some over the edge of others. It's not my fault you practiced to be good with raiton while i decided to excell in suiton or medical ninjutsu etc.
 

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Point taken sloppy she got hit as many time a regular person would die from. Most people avoid taking damage but she gets the damage. If you recall she was fighting with cuts.

Ebisu is low jonin . People everyday meet tittles they can not live up to base on experience , skills set etc...
Thats why they even have grading systems in life because people like Ebisu if he took on a mission vs Zabuza he be dead. If this was a grading and you needed a D to pass Ebisu is the D while real jonnin is A+.

She had no reason to dodge because the Byakugo was active.
 

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Low kage; low-mid at best.
 

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She is a Senju/Uzumaki,she had the right not just the potential to be High Kage lvl,but she was unlucky enough that the main character was part of her generation,and we cant have Tsunade saving the day now can we?
 

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If you think Tsunade is a low Kage, where would you put Hiruzen? Low jounin?

He is low kage. That's it really. I ranked them as far as fighting prowess goes; if we include her medical prowess other than battlefield; she is mid kage atleast since none of the other kages can provide such support to villagers. It is vauge considering many factors which makes someone a "kage" (power, leadership, intelligence, support, mindset etc)
 

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I believe he was talking about the item transporter and raikage and tsunade used, that is wayy different to what mei used. If mei went into that she would die, therefore it is a valid example of his rapid tsunade can heal.

Lava in that manga is highly nerfed, it's clear to see it does not have all its traits it would irl. Tsunade could tank that. Fire extinction should incinerate her she took it on, plus she can dodge it just like everyone else does, this isnt a tag team where ay can help her get tsunade into the lava.

Actually ay shopped his own arm off. Amerterasu is hotter than the sun. Yet what has become of that. I've not seen Tsunade scream in pain for every hit she gets when in that mode and thus leaving her open for any form of attack. The last time she saved them by tanking the katon her jutsu ran out almost right after it healed.

All Tsunade has to do is pressure her with taijutsu and she can't form any seals.

As for gaara she may only be able to slowly melt his sand (because we don't know the intensity of her acid) But im pretty sure gaara's sand can't do anything to katsuya other than try to push her back from him in which she can still bury him in acid as she pleases distracting him tsunade could end his life with one of her deadly blows. Gaara has never been one to take physical hits.

Really? Come on bro your saying they are using two different types of teleporation but do the same thing?
So your saying one is like the snuggles brand safer while the other is more harming? Get real
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Higly nerf lava? That is why Sasukke blocked it right? because it was nerf. Also what do you think the sun is made out of ? Lava

Yes the sand is covering the slug. Even if the acid was toixic it not busting out of sand like that. Research your elements, chemical reactions and such.
Now it Gaara vs in the air Tsunade he is winning
 
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Tsunade belongs in the low-mid kage tier. So she is above low kage but below mid kage.

Anyway the only kages she can beat are Hiruzen, whom she stomps based on feats, and Mei, who she can beat with mid-high difficulty.
 

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Really? Come on bro your saying they are using two different types of teleporation but do the same thing?
So your saying one is like the snuggles brand safer while the other is more harming? Get real
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Higly nerf lava? That is why Sasukke blocked it right? because it was nerf. Also what do you think the sun is made out of ? Lava

Yes the sand is covering the slug. Even if the acid was toixic it not busting out of sand like that. Research your elements, chemical reactions and such

Mei took FTG. Tsunade took the heavenly transfer thing or w/e it was called.

The one ay and tsunade took was not and never will be meant for humans as they would be torn to pieces. The one mei took was meant for human transport as it is FTG taught by minato.

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If mei's lava wasn't nerfed compared to real lava. The kage or anyone near to her when used would die because the heat alone of being close to it kills not ot mention the fumes that come along with it are fatal in some cases.

The sun is not lava its made up of gasses LOL layers of it at that. Don't call on chemistry if you don't know what the sun is made up of.

Tsunade could also go into katsuya and when she splits up due to pressure of the sand and goes flying into many human sized katsuya's tsunade comes out of oen of the hundreds and blind spots gaara, his sand isnt stopping byakugou power punches easily esp a last minute cover
 
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Mei took FTG. Tsunade took the heavenly transfer thing or w/e it was called.

The one ay and tsunade took was not and never will be meant for humans as they would be torn to pieces. The one mei took was meant for human transport as it is FTG taught by minato.

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If mei's lava wasn't nerfed compared to real lava. The kage or anyone near to her when used would die because the heat alone of being close to it kills not ot mention the fumes that come along with it are fatal in some cases.

The sun is not lava its made up of gasses LOL layers of it at that. Don't call on chemistry if you don't know what the sun is made up of.

Tsunade could also go into katsuya and when she splits up due to pressure of the sand and goes flying into many human sized katsuya's tsunade comes out of oen of the hundreds and blind spots gaara, his sand isnt stopping byakugou power punches easily esp a last minute cover

Yea the heat alone would scar but that does not mean it still wouldn't burn though some flesh if it touched Tsunade. Even fire burns flesh .
You right about the sun and yes those are boiling gases which is not called lava, but those boiling gases are effect from the sun core which like earth boils upwards and mix and boils the gases, earth does not boil air but both are hot and dangerous. So yes I should not compare it with the sun. I should have said similar.

Lastlly your last thing did not make sense how is she escaping in flying into the air deliver those punch at all humans sizes. If Dendria barely got in with his nino size bombs you think human size slug princess going to do that in the air.

No

Also like the picture said if the Raikage (the present one) could not stand it Tsunade could not.
He was seen okay afterwards no scars nothing.

Lastly, lets not forget who is saying this. It is not the old Raikage himself but someone telling people what he say. Hence hearsay
 
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For the last part let me explain the scenario. Gaara would come in trying to compact her in the sand. She goes into katsuya.

We know what happens when katsuya is pressured (this time via sand). She bursts into hundreds of katsuya minis who are average human size. And they come raining down.

Now tsunade would be in one of these many pods raining down and gaara is ofcourse looking for her but she can come out of the one she hid herself away in and if airbourne or not heavenly kick of pain/ CES with a punch to gaara and in byakugou mode her punches would be far stronger than before. Gaara then may try to deflect but i'm pretty confident her attack would make it threw his last second attempt to defend.

She could even perform this technique while letting katsuya minis fire acid while all airbourne and do the same thing.
 

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Yea the heat alone would scar but that does not mean it still wouldn't burn though some flesh if it touched Tsunade. Even fire burns flesh .
You right about the sun and yes those are boiling gases which is not called lava, but those boiling gases are effect from the sun core which like earth boils upwards and mix and boils the gases, earth does not boil air but both are hot and dangerous. So yes I should not compare it with the sun. I should have said similar.

Lastlly your last thing did not make sense how is she escaping in flying into the air deliver those punch at all humans sizes. If Dendria barely got in with his nino size bombs you think human size slug princess going to do that in the air.

No

Also like the picture said if the Raikage (the present one) could not stand it Tsunade could not.
He was seen okay afterwards no scars nothing.

Lastly, lets not forget who is saying this. It is not the old Raikage himself but someone telling people what he say. Hence hearsay

To add to your edit, she said that being raikage is probably the most likely to survive it because the 3rd was his father but if he can't how could tsunade when his body is tougher than hers.

Because ay never did it so they were unsure so she said that if he can't then she definitely will die from it.

It doesn't matter who said it. I think the one who uses the technique would know the most about it so she should be well learned about it and what it can do so therefore her word is valid.
 

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Tsunade is high-high-kage level. If Madara was alive, she would've killed him. Read the manga, she fodderized Madara with her taijutsu. Only reason why Madara won was because of his enhancements done by Kabuto along with the fact that he was an edo tensei.
 

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Katsuyus acid will melt gaaras sand

The same sand that blocked Amaterasu, right?

It's also ironic you bring up "melting." Most sand has salt in it. Salt is a slug's worst nightmare. Thus, Gaara is capable of killing Katsuyu via reverse osmosis effect (dehydrating its skin, making it appear as if the slug is "melting" - feel free to look it up).

also his sands can't hold someone as strong as tsunade imo.

His sand was holding down Susano'o. I wouldn't doubt its capability.

Mei's attacks are rendered useless against mitotic regeneration.

Not if Mei's lava or acid attacks land on her head. She cannot regenerate a melted brain or severe head trauma. Even if she can, Mei's attack can probably melt at a faster rate than Tsunade's regeneration can heal.

Ay cant beat her since she's basically immortal using her mitotic regeration, besides she's stronger than ay, she once she caught him he'd be beaten to a pulp. Although Ay's speed might give him a fighting chance if he's able to attack tsunade multiple times.

The Raikage is fast enough to casually run circles around her. She gets her head chopped off just like Sasuke almost would have been if he didn't have Susano'o to protect him.
 
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