[Theory] The Symbolism Of the Uzumaki Eight Trigrams Seal and the Four Symbols Seal

[2nd hokage]

Good theory more evidence as to the relationship of the so6p and his real world inspiration I belive the so6p was an uzumaki. However I know The next one will be lol.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Good read

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Good read

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Thank you. *_*

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I think the thing I love best about your threads is how you can't help but jab out that Uzumaki at the end. Puts a smile on my face.

OT: good work. I enjoy history.

 

[Jako98146]

It takes a very deep level of perception to notice that
great theory

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Huh. This is a surprising, yet refreshing new side to theories which continue to reflect the mysteries of the Uzumaki and The Sage.

This, however, opens up more questions than answers. How does this, in turn, apply to the Hyuga Clans' Eight Trigrams taijutsu techniques? How do they have a relationship with this seal when they are sanguinely-unrelated to the Uzumaki Clan?

 

[Lazerus Eks]

You Sir are a genius

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Huh. This is a surprising, yet refreshing new side to theories which continue to reflect the mysteries of the Uzumaki and The Sage.

This, however, opens up more questions than answers. How does this, in turn, apply to the Hyuga Clans' Eight Trigrams taijutsu techniques? How do they have a relationship with this seal when they are sanguinely-unrelated to the Uzumaki Clan?

I believe they developed that power as a practical application of their KKG Byakūgan, if my hypothesis is correct, the Hyūgas intermarried with the Elder Son and his descendants, they may not be consanguine with the Uzumakis but they share family ties with them through marriage. And most probably good relations with the Uzumakis during Rikūdo's era (keeping in line with the thought that the two clans preceded the Uchihas and Senjus)

 

[FreakensteinAG]

I believe they developed that power as a practical application of their KKG Byakūgan, if my hypothesis is correct, the Hyūgas intermarried with the Elder Son and his descendants, they may not be consanguine with the Uzumakis but they share family ties with them through marriage. And most probably good relations with the Uzumakis during Rikūdo's era (keeping in line with the thought that the two clans preceded the Uchihas and Senjus)

I think this concludes that, were this piece of the puzzle verified, that the Uzumaki and Hyuga clans were both before the time of ninjas, though who knows what the word "clan" meant to them back then?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I think this concludes that, were this piece of the puzzle verified, that the Uzumaki and Hyuga clans were both before the time of ninjas, though who knows what the word "clan" meant to them back then?

It means families/blood ties, like I said before, Rikūdo was not "Adam" or the first human since his era was described by Jiraiya as an age of endless war, families definitely existed back then albeit non-ninjutsu wielders which became the progenitors of the modern day Shinobi Clans, consanguinity extends beyond the Age of Ninshū.

I forgot which deity, but I remember pm'ing you and others about the story of the Hyūga Province wherein in a particular mountain there became the landing point of the Amatsukami or Heavenly Deities into the world. One of Amaterasus grandsons married the daughter of a Kunitsukami or local deity (Okami's daughter I think) and became the ancestors of the Japanese Imperial family. I think this coincides with the idea that the Hyūgas and Uchihas share blood through intermarriage (Amatsukami - Uchiha Kunitsukami - Hyūga) I forgot the names though.

 

[rollin]

the rikudo didn't have the eight-tri grams seal he had the seal that the eight-tri grams changed into with kurama's yang chakra

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Great theory as always derp

 

[Filo]

I like how you superimposed the pictures it certainly did resemble the mandala! Great work I love how you apply real world things to Naruto when most people disregard it! Obviously Kishi had to get his inspiration from somewhere!

Great research buddy

 

[Filo]

I like how you superimposed the pictures it certainly did resemble the mandala! Great work I love how you apply real world things to Naruto when most people disregard it! Obviously Kishi had to get his inspiration from somewhere!

Great research buddy

 

[Filo]

I like how you superimposed the pictures it certainly did resemble the mandala! Great work I love how you apply real world things to Naruto when most people disregard it! Obviously Kishi had to get his inspiration from somewhere!

Great research buddy

 

[Byron123]

I like how you superimposed the pictures it certainly did resemble the mandala! Great work I love how you apply real world things to Naruto when most people disregard it! Obviously Kishi had to get his inspiration from somewhere!

Great research buddy

I like how you superimposed the pictures it certainly did resemble the mandala! Great work I love how you apply real world things to Naruto when most people disregard it! Obviously Kishi had to get his inspiration from somewhere!

Great research buddy

I like how you superimposed the pictures it certainly did resemble the mandala! Great work I love how you apply real world things to Naruto when most people disregard it! Obviously Kishi had to get his inspiration from somewhere!

Great research buddy

You certainly did like it a lotXD

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I like how you superimposed the pictures it certainly did resemble the mandala! Great work I love how you apply real world things to Naruto when most people disregard it! Obviously Kishi had to get his inspiration from somewhere!

Great research buddy

Thank you. *_*

the rikudo didn't have the eight-tri grams seal he had the seal that the eight-tri grams changed into with kurama's yang chakra

The KCM seal bears the crest of the Uzumaki:

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It is the evolution of the Seal, much like the evolution of the BM seal with two concentric circles because it's missing the Yin Chakra which would make it four circles much like Obito's, the jutsu itself is still the Eight Trigrams Seal with different evolutions.

Rikudou's Seal is the Uzumaki Seal:

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[BazzBee]

Interesting... You seem to be very interested in Sage of the 6 paths, Hope kishi doesn't let you down >.O
Overall nice read and nice SOT6P pic ;-)

 

[osba]

you should sell dung for a living..

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Great thread derp - very interesting and very well researched. We can also see how much time and detail Kishimoto has put in to creating/developing his characters; it is actually quite deep.

One thing tho (i know our views slightly differ on this one) is the 'Hyuuga' connection to the Sage and the two sons. I know you believe Rikudo Sennin possibly created the two sons using 'Creation of all things' and that the Hyuugas were likely to have married into the Uchiha Ancestry from the older son; however, i still feel there is a possibility that the Hyuuga were infact the 'Mother' clan of the two sons, that the Sage had a Missus lol

It wiuld explain the Hyuuga affinity to Yin and Yang, which could have possibly been taught to them by Rikudo Sennin, especially as the Sages control/affinity/understanding of Yin and Yang has been pivotal to to the transferal of power/abilities between himself+Juubi, and himself+two sons.

That said, similar to the Sages use knowledge of division of Yin and Yang, the Hyuugas also specialised in the Eight Trigrams, which you have correctly associated (once again) to the Uzumakis; Rikudo Sennin being Uzumaki.

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I believe there is a connection greater than them simply marrying into the Uchihas, although I am unsure if Kishi will explain the histories of the Four Ancient Clans (Uzumaki, Uchiha, Senju, Hyuuga).

Still.... Great thread as always. I like it when you are on point and give people something to think about heh hehehe keep it up!