FTG users cannot escape kamui dimension (read first)

[Gerkak]

Both FTG and kamui are space-time techniques which mean they work by warping space/time in such a way that they can move from place to place in the shortest amount of time without the need to physically cover the distances inbetween. Now the reason why FTG can't escape kamui dimesion is in the mechanics of the jutsu.

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Here minato explains that hiraishin only works on something that either he or his chakra is touching. This leads one to believe that the FTG marking has some of the users chakra or a chakra finger-print of the user In which the FTG user can connect to like a radio connects to a radio station and teleport to that mark. FTG can't escape Kamui dimension simply because the chakra of a person in another dimension is undetectable as shown when karin couldn't sense obito till he appeared to team taka

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. The same can be said for someone who is in the kamui dimesion cannot sense someone who is in the main dimension So they can't sense where their markings are. Due to this if a FTG user is sent to the kamui dimension he or she cannot escape. the only thing they can do is use FTG to escape being sucked in.

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I am not bashing FTG users or fanboying Kamui users but I think this is correct, feel free to send out your opinions with evidence.

 

[Miyata]

I believe you!.... though it is impossible to fully warp in a s/t user before they notice and counter!

 

[Xāvî1]

FTG can go any where if there is a marking on the object

 

[roncato]

I guess it goes not for the sensing ^^
Agree with Kuuybi.

 

[Zorø]

ftg can get out of kamui as long as you have a marking outside the dimension you can escape.

 

[fahadkurama]

Same way, Kamui Users can't escape FTG.

 

[Gerkak]

ftg can get out of kamui as long as you have a marking outside the dimension you can escape.

How can you escape without sensing the marking. Minato told kakashi he could sense the markings but if you are in another dimension you can't sense someone outside it

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[ahmher]

i am sorry but what you found was half right dont forget the if minato is send back to kamui world he still can return because if he put a kunai with marking out the kamui world he can return back

 

[Gerkak]

i am sorry but what you found was half right dont forget the if minato is send back to kamui world he still can return because if he put a kunai with marking out the kamui world he can return back

That was your opinion and it's fine but do you have any proof?

 

[Meee]

Yeah I agree, you also have the fact Tobi knew of FTG and he thought once Minato was warped he was done, he would be retarded if Minato could just warp out lol

 

[sasuke base]

you are correct it seems people don't understand what you are saying plus rep

 

[Cursed Prince]

He said that for other objects. You could be right, but I wont jump to such conclusions so quickly.

 

[Multiply]

Nope, as long as there's a marking outside the dimension, they can FTG to it.

 

[Gerkak]

Nope, as long as there's a marking outside the dimension, they can FTG to it.

Proof please. As you can see I provided proof to support my claims. I am not saying I am correct but you are not giving me any proof as to why you disagree.

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hmm...it makes sense...though it's a very touchy subject. I applaud the hard work though...rep from me I like it. It's too difficult a topic to make one or the other concrete....I'm indifferent!

 

[Gerkak]

Thanks to all those that rep'd me.

 

[Mantayoh]

I do not agree with you. I think what Minato meant by his chakra touching is that there needs to be some of his chakra present where he warps. I do not believe that he needs to sense his chakra like normal sensors do and connect to it in order to FTG to it. What I remember because I watched the anime is that Minato told Kakashi is that his Marking simply acts as a beacon to limit where he can teleport.

You are right about ppl in kamui dimension not being able to sense something outside like normal sensors eg. Karin, but the scan you showed actually just tells us that Obito just appeared instantly and that is why she says that his chakra came out of nowhere, not that he was waiting in Kamui dimension and she couldn't sense him. He probably teleported from someplace else and that is why he just 'appeared'.

Also, Obito trying to Kamui Minato is not a valid point seeing that he had only basic knowledge of FTG. The way he fought it seemed he didn't even have a good idea of Minato's serious fighting style (Not realising he was marked, not knowing about FTG Lv 2, and not knowing about Hiraishin Marks never dissappearing).

S/T ninjutsu travel is an enigma, I mean we don't know how Tobi knows where he is going to end up when he teleports? Is he sensing that particular place? Isn't that sensing not cut off when he enters Kamui? FTG also has an intermediary dimension IIRC from when Minato saved Naruto from the paper bombs, so shouldn't his link also be cut off form his chakra thus making him unable to continue with the teleportation?

Im not stating its impossible, I think it is quite plausible, but still unlikely as we haven't seen anything capable of stopping S/T users so far. It is a big assumption to make. Good theory though

 

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

you are correct it seems people don't understand what you are saying plus rep

they dont understand because they dont read..

Thanks to all those that rep'd me.

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[Touken]

I agree with you.

He can't FTG out if he has no chakra link to his markings.

 

[Multiply]

Proof please. As you can see I provided proof to support my claims. I am not saying I am correct but you are not giving me any proof as to why you disagree.

S/T jutsu in itself implies multi-dimensional travel. How can you accept Obito can go through dimensions, but refute it when FTG is the same thing. It's a S/T jutsu. Kamui merely allows the user to linger in that dimensional void. FTG is an instant jutsu. That's the only difference.