FTG users cannot escape kamui dimension (read first)

[Gerkak]

No, I'm saying that he has to be able to sense chakra from other dimensions because while in said dimension he needs to sense his chakra to know where to leave the dimension at.

There is nothing to suggest that FTG has any pocket world. And even if it does, it doesn't necessarily mean that if an FTG user can travel to and fro from their own personal pocket universe they can travel in and out of other peoples pocket universe.

Minato escaped obito before he sucked him up. Minato knew that he won't be able to leave if he allowed himself to be completely warped.

 

[Uzumaki Ray]

I don't Minato has to ''sense'' the marking every time to teleport to the required place as that may be a troublesome thing to do again and again ,also the technique is almost instantaneous ....don't u think sensing the marking may require a small amount of time ? No chakra sensing means he may be able to teleport out of kamui dimension..I also don't think the jutsu formula means that the user has attached a part of chakra ,chakra may fade over time ..while the FTG marking never disappears ..plz forgive me as i may be wrong...

 

[phantomlord22]

nice thread
thanks for sharing it

 

[Sleipney]

I agree if FTG-users have to feel the chakra in their markings. It could be that they either have to feel the chakra or know where the marking is :/ Anyways +rep from me for all the work. Nice job

 

[TrollKing]

Ftg can't go to or escape other dimensions. Don't give sasky's ftg feat to normal ftg

 

[Lord Orochimaru]

FTG cannot go or escape through another dimension.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

That defeats the soul purpose of FTG being a s/t. I disagree

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

There is nothing to suggest that FTG has any pocket world. And even if it does, it doesn't necessarily mean that if an FTG user can travel to and fro from their own personal pocket universe they can travel in and out of other peoples pocket universe.

Minato escaped obito before he sucked him up. Minato knew that he won't be able to leave if he allowed himself to be completely warped.

Minato doesn't know what kamuiland is. And I'm pretty sure he didn't wanna find out.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Makes sense.
In short FTG wouldnt work cuz minato cant sense his mark in another dimension.

 

[BloodSeed]

i as a minato fan dont think he can escape kamui. coz i believe he cant feel the chakra of his kunai from that dimension. however if the kamui is still open or obito somewhat open it to use kamui FTG seals will have again a link to the user thus making them escape, just like sasuke as kaguya use her interdimension travel. sasuke feels narutos chakra in some part of that desert

 

[Gerkak]

I agree if FTG-users have to feel the chakra in their markings. It could be that they either have to feel the chakra or know where the marking is :/ Anyways +rep from me for all the work. Nice job

Thanks man!

 

[Gerkak]

i as a minato fan dont think he can escape kamui. coz i believe he cant feel the chakra of his kunai from that dimension. however if the kamui is still open or obito somewhat open it to use kamui FTG seals will have again a link to the user thus making them escape, just like sasuke as kaguya use her interdimension travel. sasuke feels narutos chakra in some part of that desert

Indeed that is a possibility.

 

[AndreJNZ]

....damn. Some people will argue over this. I see what you are trying to say and I do agree with your point, if, hypothetically, the FYG is like a wormhole in One instance of Space/time. meaning it only works in One dimension apart of any other.

While Minato was still holding the Barrier with the other revived Hokages he did not sense the Mark that was on Obito while Obito and Kakashi were in the Kamui dimension. Only after Obito reappeared did he sense the mark. Could you guys make a counter statement to this argument?

And yes, it's an imposition, it's only something we can observe from one point of view. From what was available to us in the Manga I could only make this conclusion. Minato could not detect his mark on Obito up until Obito reappeared on the Juubi's head. If you can not sense your marking, you can't use your Jutsu to go to it.

 

[ajpn920]

It's not really about sensing. It's about if Minato knows where he wants to go. Let's say he knows that he had a kunai left in Konoha, so teleporting there would not be a problem. Besides, it's his OWN chakra that was link in his seal and not others chakra. Minato is always connected to his own chakra. The fact that Obito died means that there would be someone saving those kids asses in Kaguya's dimension and only FTG users can do that. Nice thread though.

 

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

Very, very good analysis.


I see your point, and it makes a lot of sense; however, if we read the quote that you remark, it rather says otherwise:

"It only works on something that either I or my chakra are touching in some way"

The teleportation marks have Minato's chakra. If there is a teleportation mark in the Kamui realm, then Minato's chakra is touching the Kamui realm, therefore, he can teleport to the Kamui realm in spite of the fact that the link between Kamui realm and main realm is broken since (acording to that statement) there is no need for Minato's chakra to have a continous link, but only the need for the chakra to be placed elsewhere, even if there is no link.


The interesting thing is that your explanation of how the jutsu works is way more interesting and plaussible from both a plot and a logical point of view, as it stablishes a greater difference between FTG and Kamui, and is also more deep and complex.

With no doubt, if I were Kishimoto I would choose your explanation, not the one that is stated in the manga.

 

[UnrealSoul]

That defeats the soul purpose of FTG being a s/t. I disagree

Please, it was used for instant teleportation from point a to put b,c,d, in the dimension the chakra is present. Manga facts provide his theory to be possibly correct until contradicted.