Is Tim Allen allowed to say the N-word?

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Okay guys look at it this way. If white people shouldn't be allowed to use it then no one should. Including black people. But if black people use it in the terms of friendship,etc, then why shouldn't a white person? If they have no racist intent then there's no problem. A word can't belong to one race only that is beyond ignorance. You don't want other people using it but you use it yourself all the time? No.

Why would i let you use my toilet? it's mine. I can do with it what i want.
 

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Why would i let you use my toilet? it's mine.

Dude that's a toilet thats a terrible metaphor. I'm talking about a word here. A word cannot belong to a single race
 

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Dude that's a toilet thats a terrible metaphor. I'm talking about a word here. A word cannot belong to a single race

I know. I was joking.
 

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I personally feel freaked out when I let the ol' n word slip when I am by black people. When they use it amongst themselves I chuckle though.
 

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Nigger originated as a neutral term referring to black people, It's a variation of a Spanish/Portuguese noun & Niger is Latin for the color black. It means that person is extremely unsophisticated.

It's normal everyday people that turned It into something racist. The origin of the word has nothing to do with racism.
 
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I say "Sup my nigga?" to one of my black friends =D But we've been friends since we were kids. I don't walk up to a stranger who's black and say that.
 

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Tim allen can say w/e the F*Ck he wants to say, cause a word is just a word. And really means nothing unless you allow it too
 

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I say "Sup my nigga?" to one of my black friends =D But we've been friends since we were kids. I don't walk up to a stranger who's black and say that.

And your friend is okay with it right? Cause he knows your not racist. And mean nothing by it same thing with Tim Allen
 

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And your friend is okay with it right? Cause he knows your not racist. And mean nothing by it same thing with Tim Allen

Yes, definitely. He's not the person to be quiet about stuff like that. A man both of words and actions :p So if he felt offended by it, he would definitely let me know in one way or another.
 

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Tim Allen is a smart man.

I agree. I'm not a racist. There is no insult to anybody when I say Nigga. Some of my best friends were black.
 

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You have to know who you are around and who gets offended I am white and went to a predominately black school where the N word was used often by everyone (of all races called each other that) around so yea the word gets picked up and used not to insult or demean. But I am dating a black guy who is not from same area, he is from an area where I can only assume the N word is not used as loosely because if it slips outta my mouth he gets offend.
 

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Tim Allen should be allowed to use the word. Unless your using it as an insult it shouldn't be considered an insult.
 
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Here's my take on the n-word:

I'm black. If someone uses the word against me in a hateful way, I honestly wouldn't care; if someone used that word against me they'd want me to respond, which is never worth it.

However and oddly enough, if anyone, black, white, or orange, uses the word towards me in a friendly manner, I'll take offense. There's a sort of ignorant/hostile tone whenever someone says it. Period. Kind of like how I don't understand these girls run around calling each other b*tches.

All in all, I don't tolerate anyone using the word towards me.

OT: Everyone has the right to say any word, it's just up to the person they use it towards to interpret it however they feel.
 
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Here's my take on the n-word:

I'm black. If someone uses the word against me in a hateful way, I honestly wouldn't care; if someone used that word against me they'd want me to respond, which is never worth it.

However and oddly enough, if anyone, black, white, or orange, uses the word towards me in a friendly manner, I'll take offense. There's a sort of ignorant/hostile tone whenever someone says it. Period. Kind of like how I don't understand these girls run around calling each other b*tches.

All in all, I don't tolerate anyone using the word towards me.

OT: Everyone has the right to say any word, it's just up to the person they use it towards to interpret it however they feel.

Why do you take offense to nigga? Especially when no offense is meant behind it.

it really makes no sense.
 

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Why do you take offense to nigga? Especially when no offense is meant behind it.

it really makes no sense.
Why would I allow someone to call me a n*gga? C*nt? D*ck? P*ssy? Some people believe you can take power away from words, and they're right, but you still don't change the meaning of them.

That really makes no sense, but I guess "sense" is subjective.

It wouldn't be sensible perhaps if I got offended if you placed a noose on my door; it's all in friendly, good taste, right? Yeah I'll just laugh it off, shake my head and say "That Immortal Itachi, how endearing of him!"
 

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Why would I allow someone to call me a n*gga? C*nt? D*ck? P*ssy? Some people believe you can take power away from words, and they're right, but you still don't change the meaning of them.

That really makes no sense, but I guess "sense" is subjective.

It wouldn't be sensible perhaps if I got offended if you placed a noose on my door; it's all in friendly, good taste, right? Yeah I'll just laugh it off, shake my head and say "That Immortal Itachi, how endearing of him!"

If it was already friendly intent behind it, none of those words would offend me, and why should they? There was no offensive intent behind it. I'm sure you've playfully insulted your friends, and they laugh because they know there's no offense behind it. You are exactly what Tim Allen is talking about; People who get offended by things that have no malicious intent behind them.

Are they white now? :XD:

They are no longer my friends since I moved.
 

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If it was already friendly intent behind it, none of those words would offend me, and why should they? There was no offensive intent behind it. I'm sure you've playfully insulted your friends, and they laugh because they know there's no offense behind it. You are exactly what Tim Allen is talking about; People who get offended by things that have no malicious intent behind them.
I guess since I got carried and expressed myself differently, it's too late for me to say this, but you're right; I have used some words that are traditionally offensive towards my friends in an friendly manner. My experience with the n-word has never been hostile or offensive, but always in a way that someone would try to get something out of me, as if I have a duty to fulfill when someone flashes the n-word beacon.

"Yo my n*gga let me get a metrocard swipe."

"N*gga just let it rock."

Maybe I just don't like ghetto people or at least people who use it in every breath they take. *sigh* Yeah I think I'll side with that. None of my black friends use the n-word anyway.
 

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Well of course he's allowed to say it he has a voice and knows english well enough. Really anyone can say anything they want, words only become offensive when you allow them too.

The whole concept of the word, is to establish seperateness between people which is an illusion. The fact that people still use the word whether to a friend or out of hate proves that everything Martin Luther King spoke, practiced and preached about still hasn't been grasped by America and that little progress has been made. Everyone's together but seperate.
 
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Well of course he's allowed to say it he has a voice and knows english well enough. Really anyone can say anything they want, words only become offensive when you allow them too.

The whole concept of the word, is to establish seperateness between people which is an illusion. The fact that people still use the word whether to a friend or out of hate proves that everything Martin Luther King spoke, practiced and preached about still hasn't been grasped by America and that little progress has been made. Everyone's together but seperate.

Not exactly.

Races are seperate; but that's not nescassarily a bad thing.

For instance, when trying to find a criminal, authorities will describe them as White, African-American, Hispanic, etc. Whether we like it or not, race does provide distinctions for seperation.

That's not to say we should seperate resturants based on race.
 
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