Stop Comparing Minato And Tobirama (Incorrectly)

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Everyone just loves jumping on the bandwagon whenever a strong character is displaying their skills. All of you fake tobirama fans need to stop trying to compare him to minato just because tobirama got some needed development.

Minato and Tobirama are both in my top 5 fav characters but I do honestly think minato is still stonger than him BUT tobirama is officially in my top 10 strongest.

Now I'll explain why I think its still: Minato>Tobirama (At least until we see all their abilities.)

OK they both have FTG but I believe minato is more skilled at using his FTG, remember tobirama is known for his water jutsu not his S/T jutsu while minato is known for S/T Jutsu. And yes I know minato copied it from tobirama but that doesn't mean his FTG in inferior to tobirama's. Just like itachi and sasuke can both use amaterasu but sasuke is better at it, this situation can be viewed and decided the same way. Or like naruto copying rasengan from minato and jman, but we all know naruto has the best rasengan.

Tobirama has water element BUT minato has an element too (Kishi will have to show us eventually) so FOR NOW tobirama is better in this category. (This is the only category tobirama's better than minato in FOR NOW at least.)

We don't know what element Minato has but we do know he has rasengan and his new jutsu he's talking about, while tobirama has his explosive tags, I believe rasengan easily wins this.

Now THIS is where minato has the advantage over tobirama.

-Minato still has KCM so minato has more chakra than tobirama
-Minato has proven to be arguably the smartest/intelligent character in the entire series
-Minato also has all the frog summons
-Lastly, Minato has RDS, so this fight can always turn out to be a draw

As for Edo Tensei:

I don't count this has tobirama's own power but if you want to add this, Minato has Contract Seal and this will break tobirama's control over his Edos and the Edos will no longer be helpful to tobirama, and they might even attack him for controlling them.

So there you have it, Minato still clearly has the advantage over him if it was a 1v1.

Like I said, I like both of them and I don't want to keep comparing them. THEY ARE A GREAT DUO AS KISHIMOTO HAS SHOWED IN THIS CURRENT CHAPTER. And I cant wait for kishi to show all of minato and tobirama's powers (especially minato's element).
 

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I have always thought Tobirama > Minato. Not everyone is a bandwagoner. Quit being so stereotypical butt hole.

"Minato might have an element I am sure of it."

Well I say Tobirama has a Minato destroying technique broski, I am sure of it too. Kishi will reveal it.
 

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I have always thought Tobirama > Minato. Not everyone is a bandwagoner. Quit being so stereotypical butt hole.

"Minato might have an element I am sure of it."

Well I say Tobirama has a Minato destroying technique broski, I am sure of it too. Kishi will reveal it.

first of all I didn't say everyone was a fake tobirama fan, learn how to read. If you aren't a fake fan then that statement wasn't towards you.

secondly, you're not a fake tobirama fan BUT you are a tobirama fanboy and you're biased so you aren't worth my time
 

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i agree and disagree because like you said we havent seen their full strengths yet....
 

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first of all I didn't say everyone was a fake tobirama fan, learn how to read. If you aren't a fake fan then that statement wasn't towards you.

secondly, you're not a fake tobirama fan BUT you are a tobirama fanboy and you're biased so you aren't worth my time

"Everybody loves to jump on the bandwagon."

No. Some Tobirama fans have waited since part 1 for him to get some damn feats. I think it is about time we have fun. I am definitly not biased, because you do not know me. In fact you are biased, since you are making up elements that Minato can use and he has not shown the use of any elements. You sir, are a hater.
 

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I agree, Minato > Tobirama, only a fanboy and fool would say the opposite.

I agree but its not obvious

"Everybody loves to jump on the bandwagon."

No. Some Tobirama fans have waited since part 1 for him to get some damn feats. I think it is about time we have fun. I am definitly not biased, because you do not know me. In fact you are biased, since you are making up elements that Minato can use and he has not shown the use of any elements. You sir, are a hater.

the next sentence specifically pointed out FAKE tobirama fan, just read it again bro

im one of the few people that are real tobirama fan (I guess you too)

why would I hate on tobirama if he's in my top 5 favs?? you make no sense

minato does have a element, kakashi said minato couldnt mix a element with rasengan which proves minato has an element
 

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Everyone just loves jumping on the bandwagon whenever a strong character is displaying their skills. All of you fake tobirama fans need to stop trying to compare him to minato just because tobirama got some needed development.

Minato and Tobirama are both in my top 5 fav characters but I do honestly think minato is still stonger than him BUT tobirama is officially in my top 10 strongest.

Now I'll explain why I think its still: Minato>Tobirama (At least until we see all their abilities.)

OK they both have FTG but I believe minato is more skilled at using his FTG, remember tobirama is known for his water jutsu not his S/T jutsu while minato is known for S/T Jutsu. And yes I know minato copied it from tobirama but that doesn't mean his FTG in inferior to tobirama's. Just like itachi and sasuke can both use amaterasu but sasuke is better at it, this situation can be viewed and decided the same way. Or like naruto copying rasengan from minato and jman, but we all know naruto has the best rasengan.

Tobirama has water element BUT minato has an element too (Kishi will have to show us eventually) so FOR NOW tobirama is better in this category. (This is the only category tobirama's better than minato in FOR NOW at least.)

We don't know what element Minato has but we do know he has rasengan and his new jutsu he's talking about, while tobirama has his explosive tags, I believe rasengan easily wins this.

Now THIS is where minato has the advantage over tobirama.

-Minato still has KCM so minato has more chakra than tobirama
-Minato has proven to be arguably the smartest/intelligent character in the entire series
-Minato also has all the frog summons
-Lastly, Minato has RDS, so this fight can always turn out to be a draw

As for Edo Tensei:

I don't count this has tobirama's own power but if you want to add this, Minato has Contract Seal and this will break tobirama's control over his Edos and the Edos will no longer be helpful to tobirama, and they might even attack him for controlling them.

So there you have it, Minato still clearly has the advantage over him if it was a 1v1.

Like I said, I like both of them and I don't want to keep comparing them. THEY ARE A GREAT DUO AS KISHIMOTO HAS SHOWED IN THIS CURRENT CHAPTER. And I cant wait for kishi to show all of minato and tobirama's powers (especially minato's element).


Suiton can effectively negate FTG Kunai and V2 kunai simply because the Kunai wont have a solid surface to stick to. With this in mind Tobirama can effectively control the tide(Literally) for where minato can FTG to. Also Tobirama is capable of tagging his EDO summons with FTG and use them as a means to explode or teleport to during there fight
 

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Kishi proved with just a few feats that tobirama > base minato. Like you said I dont wanna compare them but FTG + reflex speed + suiton mastery + edo tensei + sensory abilities make tobirama absolutely deadly on the battlefield. He would make a for a harder debate against characters in minato's place.
 

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Honestly how can anyone still think minato>tobirama? It should be common sense by now tobirama is stronger than minato.
 

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Suiton can effectively negate FTG Kunai and V2 kunai simply because the Kunai wont have a solid surface to stick to. With this in mind Tobirama can effectively control the tide(Literally) for where minato can FTG to. Also Tobirama is capable of tagging his EDO summons with FTG and use them as a means to explode or teleport to during there fight

do you really think tobirama will spam suiton just to attempt to stop minato from using FTG accurately?? tobirama will drain ALOT of chakra by doing this and tobirama doesn't need to waste chakra since minato has KCM.

How many times do you think tobirama can hides behind his edos?? minato will eventually put the contact seal on tobirama or seal the edos, we don't even know if tobirama can revive any ninja, let alone strong ninja.
 

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:| ....... i believe all the tobirama fanboys can overrate him all they want (for a change).

am a fan of both and i do agree that minato's s/t is more advanced/better (he is overall an S/T specialist) but that doesn't mean that he is OVERALL a stronger shinobi.

tobirama has a big arsenal and doesn't rely on ONE type of jutsu. from his great s/t (close to minato's) to all his incredible water jutsu to edo tensei and it's techniques (a deadly combination, never existed in one character).

btw minato's element is probably WIND (why would he create a jutsu based on wind element if he didn't have it). but again minato is all about s/t so he is the king of that category.

who is stronger ?? my money is on tobirama BUT, a fight between hokage's is never simple/far from an easy win.
 
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Honestly how can anyone still think minato>tobirama? It should be common sense by now tobirama is stronger than minato.

explain how its common sense minato has the upper hand, I just explain how unless you can prove me wrong with the manga

Kishi proved with just a few feats that tobirama > base minato. Like you said I dont wanna compare them but FTG + reflex speed + suiton mastery + edo tensei + sensory abilities make tobirama absolutely deadly on the battlefield. He would make a for a harder debate against characters in minato's place.

minato would still have kcm without being edo

ok tobirama has a good but minato a good arsenal too: FTG + reflexes + space time barrier + frog summons + RDS + unknown element + KCM + kushina said she taught minato a lot of sealing jutsu
 

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:| ....... i believe all the tobirama fanboys can overrate him all they want (for a change).

am a fan of both and i do agree that minato's s/t is more advanced/better (he is overall an S/T specialist) but that doesn't mean that he is OVERALL a stronger shinobi.

tobirama has a big arsenal and doesn't rely on ONE type of jutsu. from his great s/t to all his incredible water jutsu to edo tensei and it's techniques (a deadly combination, never existed in one character).

btw minato's element is probably WIND (why would he create a jutsu based on wind element if he didn't have it). but again minato is all about s/t so he is the king of that category.

I get what your saying but minato has a good arsenal too: FTG + reflexes + space time barrier + frog summons + RDS + unknown element + KCM + kushina said she taught minato a lot of sealing jutsu

just because minato focus on s/t jutsu that doesn't mean he cant be good overall, look at naruto, he spam the same stuff over and over and he's top 5 material

and what jutsu did minato create based on wind?? im confused here
 
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