Ay and Tsunade

What is your opinion ?

  • Agreed: Tsunade should get a little more respect in relation to Ay/ Someone's rating is skewed

    Votes: 16 76.2%
  • Disagreed: The fanbase is right, tsunade sucks. Basically a Female Ay? Go slap yourself.

    Votes: 5 23.8%

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AGoodBoy

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This thread is not about a battle between Ay and tsunade. It's trying to understand the fanbase perspective when we compare their fight styles/abilities - or, at least compare ay's fight style(favoured by most) to that of tsunade(least favoured). Assume they're fighting the exact same opponent at 2 different periods in time.

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How is it that some people claim Ay is the strongest Current Kage, but Tsunade is the weakest/top 3 weakest kage ever when....


Both Ay and tsunade use nin-tai CQC combat.

-Ay uses raiton armor to increase his speed, defence, power.
-Tsunade uses chakra to increase healing rate(defence) and chakra to increase her power to orgasmic levels


Now, this is where this becomes eerily similar.

In Defence
-Tsunade's byakugo allows her to tank pretty much any shit without dying
-Raikage's Raiton armor allows him to tank most shit without getting injured.

Stick with me please. In Attack
-Raikage uses precison, high speed attacks to destroy bone, or damage internal organs to kill his opponents
-Tsunade uses massive scale AoE attacks that require no precision to completely annihilate anything within the blast zone.

To put this as an analogy, it's somewhat like one person uses a sniper rifle and the other uses a ballistics missle. IF the sniper rifle hits, the target is dead, and it requires massive precision to acheive that, though that is offset by the guns highspeed bullet velocity. IF the ballistics missle hits, the target and the surrounding area is in ruin, though that is offset by the missle's slower than bullet travel speed.

Even if we go towards Chakra
It is highly unlikely, and i mean highly unlikely that ay has more combined chakra than tsunade. Between her Senju-uzumaki DNA and her years of hyakugo stored chakra, she can easily have bijuu levels worth of chakra.

In conclussion
-Ay's raiton armor is matched by tsunade's byakugo healing
-Ay's precision, high speed attacks are matched by tsunade's Wide scale(no precision required) nuke-attacks
-Ay's Bijuu level chara is matched by tsunade's DNA + Hyakugo


Most Ay fans will say "Chop Head off GG". Though this is not only impossible, it's never been hinted in the manga since from day one he got a lariat partner. But, Even then, Any tsunade fan can simply proclaim "Put foot down GG" Because, from tsunade, just stepping down would nuke the entire area and injure/kill her opponent.



Now, I ask you how, how the **** is Ay sooooo far above tsunade in the fanbase, when tsunade is pretty much a female version of Ay? At best they should be close to each other in the kage lineup.


PS: I didn't bother mention katsuya, but even then, i can add katsuya absorption as another defence to match ay's defence.




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Yes, tsunade is pretty much the female version of ay. They both have raw strength that is very similar, one to each other. Good points :win:
 

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Tsunade is highly underestimated in this forum and your points you laid down was opinionated but yet factual in my book. Excellent theory AGoodBoy am with u in this one
 

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Yes, tsunade is pretty much the female version of ay. They both have raw strength that is very similar, one to each other. Good points :win:
Thanks :)

Tsunade is highly underestimated in this forum and your points you laid down was opinionated but yet factual in my book. Excellent theory AGoodBoy am with u in this one
yea, I know it was pretty opinionated but i didn't want to drag manga scans into it to make it any less opinionated. Anytime i use manga scans my posts start to become TL;DR; even i don't want to read all of it lol :p
 

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Yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said! Good analysis :cool:
 

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A very nice thread, I completely agree. =D
 

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A is like a male Tsunade. I actually see Tsunade being stronger. :|
 

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I don't like Ay either, he's too loud.. so :yeah:
 

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Yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said! Good analysis :cool:

A very nice thread, I completely agree. =D

thanks :)

A is like a male Tsunade. I actually see Tsunade being stronger. :|
Lol I do to, but if i go saying that in a thread, the thread will derail into angry fanboys crying over spilt milk.

I don't like Ay either, he's too loud.. so :yeah:

lol, same, but some ride him really hard.
 

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Tsunade is obviously better considering she's half Senju, half Uzumaki. She's got the best of both clans. =D This is not worth debating. We can see who is better by looking back at who was the last person standing after Madara did his thing. :cool:
 

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Tsunade is obviously better considering she's half Senju, half Uzumaki. She's got the best of both clans. =D This is not worth debating. We can see who is better by looking back at who was the last person standing after Madara did his thing. :cool:

most people will tell you ay one shots tsunade/ Ay > tsunade low-mid diff. I usually rarely see anyone disagree with this claim.
 

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Yeah i agree with you.
she deserve respect more than she is getting.
 

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What do those two have to do with tsunade and ay? This is not a vs thread, of who solos who etc...:vincent:
 

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What do those two have to do with tsunade and ay? This is not a vs thread, of who solos who etc...:vincent:

well the thread is about Tsunade and A so I can't see what's the problem

I just stated obvious facts

there are a few haters who deny that Itachi can solo them with low difficulty but they're just underestimating him
Tsunade gets face-Amaterasu'd then Itachi paralyzes A with a base genjutsu and decapitates him with a kunai or finishes him off with Totsuka or just puts him into coma with his Tsukuyomi
 

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well the thread is about Tsunade and A so I can't see what's the problem

I just stated obvious facts

there are a few haters who deny that Itachi can solo them with low difficulty but they're just underestimating him
Tsunade gets face-Amaterasu'd then Itachi paralyzes A with a base genjutsu and decapitates him with a kunai or finishes him off with Totsuka or just puts him into coma with his Tsukuyomi

okay. 10char
 

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This thread is not about a battle between Ay and tsunade. It's trying to understand the fanbase perspective when we compare their fight styles/abilities - or, at least compare ay's fight style(favoured by most) to that of tsunade(least favoured). Assume they're fighting the exact same opponent at 2 different periods in time.

Leave your vote in the poll after reading the thread :)



How is it that some people claim Ay is the strongest Current Kage, but Tsunade is the weakest/top 3 weakest kage ever when....


Both Ay and tsunade use nin-tai CQC combat.

-Ay uses raiton armor to increase his speed, defence, power.
-Tsunade uses chakra to increase healing rate(defence) and chakra to increase her power to orgasmic levels


Now, this is where this becomes eerily similar.

In Defence
-Tsunade's byakugo allows her to tank pretty much any shit without dying
-Raikage's Raiton armor allows him to tank most shit without getting injured.

Stick with me please. In Attack
-Raikage uses precison, high speed attacks to destroy bone, or damage internal organs to kill his opponents
-Tsunade uses massive scale AoE attacks that require no precision to completely annihilate anything within the blast zone.

To put this as an analogy, it's somewhat like one person uses a sniper rifle and the other uses a ballistics missle. IF the sniper rifle hits, the target is dead, and it requires massive precision to acheive that, though that is offset by the guns highspeed bullet velocity. IF the ballistics missle hits, the target and the surrounding area is in ruin, though that is offset by the missle's slower than bullet travel speed.

Even if we go towards Chakra
It is highly unlikely, and i mean highly unlikely that ay has more combined chakra than tsunade. Between her Senju-uzumaki DNA and her years of hyakugo stored chakra, she can easily have bijuu levels worth of chakra.

In conclussion
-Ay's raiton armor is matched by tsunade's byakugo healing
-Ay's precision, high speed attacks are matched by tsunade's Wide scale(no precision required) nuke-attacks
-Ay's Bijuu level chara is matched by tsunade's DNA + Hyakugo


Most Ay fans will say "Chop Head off GG". Though this is not only impossible, it's never been hinted in the manga since from day one he got a lariat partner. But, Even then, Any tsunade fan can simply proclaim "Put foot down GG" Because, from tsunade, just stepping down would nuke the entire area and injure/kill her opponent.



Now, I ask you how, how the **** is Ay sooooo far above tsunade in the fanbase, when tsunade is pretty much a female version of Ay? At best they should be close to each other in the kage lineup.


PS: I didn't bother mention katsuya, but even then, i can add katsuya absorption as another defence to match ay's defence.




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Tsunade can take fatal wounds and Ay cant that is the main difference.
 

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Tsunade can take fatal wounds and Ay cant that is the main difference.

who told you that? That's his father. Ay has never been hyped to have Super Armor like his father else these wouldn't happen.

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Byakugo has always healed tsunade from fatal wounds, even splitting in half, so taking fatal wounds isn't really a big problem.
 
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