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I wanna talk some Superman/Batman. Here are some random opinions I have.

First off, I'm VERY excited. This is like a dream. It's awesome. No matter the concerns I have, I'll be passed out when seeing Batman giving the "**** you" stare to Superman. Moving on.

I really hope it's called or has World's Finest somewhere in the title. That'd be top.

This is something I wouldn't have done. I would've made this the third installment instead of the second. Man of Steel was setting up Superman's character. The ending of that film, SPOILER, had two major things happening. One, Superman killed Zod, and Two, Superman set his Clark Kent persona up for The Daily Planet.

Superman killing Zod sets up his noble, anti-kill mindset. He not only killed a man, but he killed the last member of his race, not counting the face Faora and the rest of the crew were sent to the Phantom Zone via Elliot Stabler. This entire thing makes Superma who he is. Man of Steel would be the prelude to his status quo, Man of Steel 2 would've been that status quo (Thanks Captain Logan from Geekvolution for using that specific term), and whatever after that would just be more wheels turning with a set Superman. That ties in with the Clark Kent persona. We didn't see much of Superman's regular support cast because he wasn't in his usual area, The Daily Planet. We would've seen more in the standard aka, my and others vision Man of Steel 2. We may still get that, but with Batman in it, I doubt it. Will we get Batman's supporting cast too? Who knows? I doubt it, but we'll see. Also, I do not want Batman being part of Superman maturing. That feels wrong. They should both be men with certain ideals and minsets, not Batman being Batman already and Superman not being figured out yet. I'm pretty sure we'll have Superman figured out in Man of Steel 2, but I wish we had a movie inbetween this to just show us that. It's easy to figure out, but it'd be nice to have a movie showing it.

However, as Captain Logan pointed out which I never thought about, this opens Batman to a new world. We'll get an established Batman. No more origin. No more Batman's parents getting shot. We'll, and this is really important, get Batman in a world where we can throw out realistic stuff. We can get villains like Clayface, Poison Ivy, and Mister Freeze. We could get the actual Lazurus put. JASON TODD #2015 YO. It's all more possible since there is no more boundaries. We could very well have seen realistic versions of them and it could've been top, but now it's more open, which is cool.

Anyways, I've very excited for this. This can do wonders for Batman. I feel like it's not the right move for Superman, but we'll see. This is going to be a huge move and I cannot wait. Superman and Batman! Also, I really hope we get Jimmy Olsen. We would've been guaranteed him with golden scenes with Lois and Clark, but I feel we won't get as many with Batman in the mix. I don't want to end negative though because this is awesome. SUPERMAN. BATMAN. JIMMY OLSEN. #2015



Those are just some thoughts I have. Just talk opinions, concerns, hopes, etc... and stuff here if you want.
 

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im almost sure they are gone do a edited version of superman/batman public enemies for the story line that might have a little bit of jimmy and lois but mostly lex
 

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Fun fact: Bruce Wayne actually owns the daily planet.

OP: Is that Pitch Perfect in your sig?
That'd be a good way to intro him if they wanted too.

Yeah :cool:

im almost sure they are gone do a edited version of superman/batman public enemies for the story line that might have a little bit of jimmy and lois but mostly lex
Maybe. Lex would be a good villain to combine them, but is is too soon for Lex maybe? I'd be down with it though.
cant wait for it if they do lex luthor anywhere close to as well as heath ledger we could be looking at it making more then any other movie this decade
Maybe. That'd be one hell of a combo. I don't know if they'll do Joker. I think it'll be more of just a solo Superman villain.

I hope Christian Bale returns as Batman. I can't picture anyone else doing the role. It's like RDJ and Iron-Man.
I'd like to have him as a familar face, but I don't think he will and I think I'd rather have someone new. I feel you on Iron-Man. Can they exchange actors and still have us interested? I think this entire move will determine it, atleast for Batman.
 

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Well this is good news as from what it sounds like they are making a crossover with the two!!!!!!!!


And I do not see Batman being the reason Superman finds his way of doing things...I could actually see it starting several years after that incident to where he already has it....most likely there wouldn't be an imbetween movie, but a flashback in the movie may happen.

Anyways...really hope they nail Lex Luthor as that would be perfect!

Also like it was mentioned the Lazarus Pitts would be great! Having Ras as well as Lex Luthor would be epic!


Good stuff man!
 
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Well this is good news as from what it sounds like they are making a crossover with the two!!!!!!!!


And I do not see Batman being the reason Superman finds his way of doing things...I could actually see it starting several years after that incident to where he already has it....most likely there wouldn't be an imbetween movie, but a flashback in the movie may happen.

Anyways...really hope they nail Lex Luthor as that would be perfect!

Also like it was mentioned the Lazarus Pitts would be great! Having Ras as well as Lex Luthor would be epic!


Good stuff man!

They are and it's 100% confirmed, which is the best part.

Thank you for saying that. That eases my thoughts. I feel it's what they have to do. Maybe an opening monolouge by Superman stating how it changed him. That'd be great.

Lex & Ra's. #2015 #PresidentialCampaign XD
 

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I'd like to have him as a familar face, but I don't think he will and I think I'd rather have someone new. I feel you on Iron-Man. Can they exchange actors and still have us interested? I think this entire move will determine it, atleast for Batman.
I think one way the could do it is to cast Joseph Gordon Levitt. It was hinted at the end of TDKR that he could would take over from Batman as he is seen in the Bat-cave. This would be easier with the audience to handle because they already have a relationship with him from the Dark Knight trilogy.
 

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I think one way the could do it is to cast Joseph Gordon Levitt. It was hinted at the end of TDKR that he could would take over from Batman as he is seen in the Bat-cave. This would be easier with the audience to handle because they already have a relationship with him from the Dark Knight trilogy.


I completely disagree with that. I love JGL, but I don't want him as Bats. I'm pretty sure this is a new Batman franchise, so it won't have any ties to the Nolanverse. That would be good for those who like him as Batman and want it connected to the Nolan trilogy, but I doubt it'll happen. I mean, it could be connected to Nolan's Batman, but I really really doubt it will be.
 
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They are and it's 100% confirmed, which is the best part.

Thank you for saying that. That eases my thoughts. I feel it's what they have to do. Maybe an opening monolouge by Superman stating how it changed him. That'd be great.

Lex & Ra's. #2015 #PresidentialCampaign XD
YESSSSSSSSSSSS 100% SO MUCH WIN!!!! Now I get the first part of the thread *faints from epicosity*!


Anyways yeah no problem. I can't see any other logical way than flashback...that or an opening monologue. The shortest they could do is have some frictional moment between our heroes and Superman will mention to Batman how he should already know Superman operates...possibly giving a "ever since..." Quote... Either leaving it to trail off (and us viewers of Man of Steel knowing what he refers to) or he actually says Zod.


And lollollol!!!!! Luthor's competition mysteriously disappears...and then imagine a Luthor Corporation backed League of Shadows.....scary.

Had he not died it would be great to toss in a third party tag team between the psychotic Joker (Ledger) and Scarecrow (favorite Batman villain)
 

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I completely disagree with that. I love JGL, but I don't want him as Bats. I'm pretty sure this is a new Batman franchise, so it won't have any ties to the Nolanverse. That would be good for those who like him as Batman and want it connected to the Nolan trilogy, but I doubt it'll happen. I mean, it could be connected to Nolan's Batman, but I really really doubt it will be.
Hmmm, maybe you're right. If it is someone else, then it should be kept separate from the Nolan verse. Another thing, is this Man of Steel 2, or an individual film set in the DC universe. Man of Steel was intended to be a trilogy, so I'm not sure. Anyway, this is great news as it sets up for the eventual JL film which is rumored to be releasing in 2017.
 
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