Just because they have no feats at all. But if we assume they had similar abilities as the other kazekages, Mizukages or Raikages, Hiruzen has no chance against them.
Just because they have no feats at all.But if we assume they had similar abilities as the other kazekages, Mizukages or Raikages, Hiruzen has no chance against them.
neither Hiruzen has feats (excluding the weakened one with crappy chakra speed and strength but iirc even Tobirama was weak when he wasn't at 100%)
it can be also assumed that young Hiruzen shits on A because it was stated in the data book and the 3rd (without being half-dead) might have similar abilities as the other Hokages by your logic
The reason I respect him so much is because unlike these 1 dimensional shinobi we see now-a-days (I.E Hashirama, Obito, Minato, Etc..) Hiruzen has been shown to be a TRUE NINJA SHINOBI. He took the time to sucessfully master every skill there is to becoming a ninja.
He has MASTERED:
Taijutsu
Ninjutsu
Genjutsu
Kenjutsu
Finjutsu
He is a very well rounded character, and above being known as a God Of Shinobi he is also hailed as a Genius. Which is clearly demonstrated as he learned and mastered every jutsu that EXIST in the hidden leaf village (excluding KKG).
In his Prime he was said to be the Strongest Hokage konoha has ever produced, and this is something that has yet to be refuted or disproven, or even retconed.
Hiruzen Sarutobi, is awsome and anyone who hates on him or tries to downplay him is a troll, as we havent seen him battle worth his name. Hiruzen will have his day in the Sun, and Im glad to be a Sarutobi fan!!!! =D
P.S. Enma is also the best and most B.A summon. And kishimoto clearly states in the First Fanbook and Databook that Enma is the strongest Summon. So, shout out to the Monkey King who will make his return very soon.
Just because they have no feats at all. But if we assume they had similar abilities as the other kazekages, Mizukages or Raikages, Hiruzen has no chance against them.
funny how you support the other kages who have 0 feats so far instead of Hiruzen who was hailed as "God of Shinobi". so by your logic, accept that Tobirama shits on Tsunade.
Feats are he stayed alive the longest out of all of them, Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato all died relatively young, Hiruzen lived through how many wars? He reached old age and only then he got defeated, I'm sure we'll see more of him at some point.
The funny thing is, I'm not even his fan =D
The hell.. He was killed because he was an old man. Dude was retired till Minato went and died. He was forced back into a life style after he had got his title. Everyone gets old at some point so... Yeah. It's pretty hard to keep such a title when you are dying of old age. Even at such an old age, he took out two kages and took Oro arms. Give the guy some credit. He would be more free if he was in his prime.
The hell.. He was killed because he was an old man. Dude was retired till Minato went and died. He was forced back into a life style after he had got his title. Everyone gets old at some point so... Yeah. It's pretty hard to keep such a title when you are dying of old age. Even at such an old age, he took out two kages and took Oro arms. Give the guy some credit. He would be more free if he was in his prime.
The hell.. He was killed because he was an old man. Dude was retired till Minato went and died. He was forced back into a life style after he had got his title. Everyone gets old at some point so... Yeah. It's pretty hard to keep such a title when you are dying of old age. Even at such an old age, he took out two kages and took Oro arms. Give the guy some credit. He would be more free if he was in his prime.
Agreed, there is also a scan where hiruzen is reffered to as being the strongest of all the kages, not to mention his chakra was so powerfull that it condenses the air upon being used. also durinv his old age he was still considered the strongest of all the kage.
Agreed, there is also a scan where hiruzen is reffered to as being the strongest of all the kages, not to mention his chakra was so powerfull that it condenses the air upon being used. also durinv his old age he was still considered the strongest of all the kage.
By what hes actually shown, hes fodder compared to top-tier shinobi. He wouldnt beat a single member of the Akatsuki but his hype is the only thing that gives him any credibility. Until he actually shows something impressive he should never be mentioned in the same breath as Hashirama
