[Predictions] Naruto Manga 456 Discussion / 457 Predictions

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lolz dude...stop fkn makin naruto look as a god......evry 1 in this manga has a unique strong jutsu....but naruto eint a match 4 sasuke... and will never be...as 4 the kages....will see wat kishi holds up..lolz
Dude, your the one making a character look like a god. If you read the mangas rather then flip through looking at the pictures only, you would have realised that Naruto is stronger then Sasuke. Madara stated in chapter 453 that he needs to get his plans done before Sasuke becomes stronger then what Pein used to be before he died, otherwise he can't use Sasuke anymore. As we saw from the fight between Pein and Naruto, Naruto was stronger then Pein, that's why he defeated Pein. Now if Naruto is stronger then Pein, and Sasuke is weaker then Pein, how does your logic come in that Sasuke would own Naruto...?

And Sasuke's eyes won't be much of a defence, Pein's eyes were the ultimate defence eyes, better then Byakugan and Sharingan, all Sasuke would have against Naruto are his skills, but Naruto has his own jutsus which are stronger, sage mode which makes him stronger then Tsunade, and if those fail, he still has the 9-tails, and since his dad re-established the seal, naruto can use the fox better then before, as we saw at the end of the fight with Pein, forcing the 9-tails chakra into Pein with Pein's own chakra blade when he stabbed Naruto.

Besides absurd remarks like chaosstar's, I thought it was a very good chapter. Being colored as next week's must mean something big might happen.

Aswell as the Danzo and Madara comparisons, I highly doubt one is the other. Madara was off doing stuff for his plans, even giving Sasuke orders face-to-face during the Pein/Naruto battle. Danzo was hiding under the village in the ROOT HQ. This was mentioned before Pein began to attack the village. Also, Danzo knew Naruto wasn't in the village when Naruto left to learn to control sage chakra. Madara didn't he told Pein to go capture Naruto before security around Naruto tightens. And if you disagree, who do you think would be the security for Naruto? ROOT would be, and Danzo is the leader, why would Madara strengthen security on Naruto and then attack, knowing it will be difficult for Pein to do so? It's illogical, think of the behind the scenes and the roles of each character, not their characteristics.
 

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i think that the naruto sasuke and sakura will be the the next 3 legendary sanin
I have been thinking the same thing like so many others. The way kishi has been setting up :naruto::sasuke::sakura: to be the next set.

I also want to hit on some different pts the samurai.

Now this is my opinion but I was thinking Samurai are all about Strengthen the mind and body so maybe ninjutsu, and genjutsu is weak against them. Also seeing that Samurai don't use ninjutsu or genjutsu I am putting them in a category like Might Guy and Rock Lee. I see them being very fast and powerful with some tech that do border on ninjutsu.

With that said I wonder by adding Samurai to the mix how is that going to play out. I mean if Samurai are supposed to be powerful they can't fall like flys but if they are to powerful that could change things.
 

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sage chakra comes from the natural surroundings so he can enter sage mode an unlimted number of times assuming he has enough time to stand still and gather the narutal chakra
i was wondering if naruto learns some kinda way to gather the natural energy while he is fighting that would be awesome. and he still has a lot of training to do if wants to defeat madara.
 

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I have been thinking the same thing like so many others. The way kishi has been setting up :naruto::sasuke::sakura: to be the next set.

I also want to hit on some different pts the samurai.

Now this is my opinion but I was thinking Samurai are all about Strengthen the mind and body so maybe ninjutsu, and genjutsu is weak against them. Also seeing that Samurai don't use ninjutsu or genjutsu I am putting them in a category like Might Guy and Rock Lee. I see them being very fast and powerful with some tech that do border on ninjutsu.

With that said I wonder by adding Samurai to the mix how is that going to play out. I mean if Samurai are supposed to be powerful they can't fall like flys but if they are to powerful that could change things.
i was thinking the same thing may be the samurais have some kind of extreme speed skill that is even faster than sasuke's and their weapon are have some kind of special ability i also think that they rely on brute strength and skills and not on ninjutsu and genjutsu.
 

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also naruto will hav a prob against sasuke if he uses the sharingan since they said the way to control the 9 tails and naruto can fall into genjutsus also i dont think sasuke is faster than naruto and naruto can change in and out of sage mode fast the fight with pain showed us that also come on no need 4 heated debates here just fun and share ur pount of views
Madara was able to use genjutsu on the 9-tails cause to escape genjutsu, you need to have trained agaist it, or have someone near you force chakra into you. Who the hell would try to get near the 9-tails to force chakra into it? No one. Naruto on the other hand, he has no choice, if the 9-tails succumbed to genjutsu, then Naruto can release the genjutsu, same goes for if Naruto falls victim, then the 9-tails will break it. And from what we learned from Itachi being the master of Genjutsu, the eyes can't just put everyone into genjutsu with 1 look, they can only do it one at a time, but if it was a jutsu done to the surroundings, then it can affect both possibly.
 

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Madara was able to use genjutsu on the 9-tails cause to escape genjutsu, you need to have trained agaist it, or have someone near you force chakra into you. Who the hell would try to get near the 9-tails to force chakra into it? No one. Naruto on the other hand, he has no choice, if the 9-tails succumbed to genjutsu, then Naruto can release the genjutsu, same goes for if Naruto falls victim, then the 9-tails will break it. And from what we learned from Itachi being the master of Genjutsu, the eyes can't just put everyone into genjutsu with 1 look, they can only do it one at a time, but if it was a jutsu done to the surroundings, then it can affect both possibly.
remember he still has the natural chakra (sage mode) to get out of it. i mean while in genjutsu the victim is just standing not doing anything so it might be easy to do it just my opinion.
 

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Dude, your the one making a character look like a god. If you read the mangas rather then flip through looking at the pictures only, you would have realised that Naruto is stronger then Sasuke. Madara stated in chapter 453 that he needs to get his plans done before Sasuke becomes stronger then what Pein used to be before he died, otherwise he can't use Sasuke anymore. As we saw from the fight between Pein and Naruto, Naruto was stronger then Pein, that's why he defeated Pein. Now if Naruto is stronger then Pein, and Sasuke is weaker then Pein, how does your logic come in that Sasuke would own Naruto...?

And Sasuke's eyes won't be much of a defence, Pein's eyes were the ultimate defence eyes, better then Byakugan and Sharingan, all Sasuke would have against Naruto are his skills, but Naruto has his own jutsus which are stronger, sage mode which makes him stronger then Tsunade, and if those fail, he still has the 9-tails, and since his dad re-established the seal, naruto can use the fox better then before, as we saw at the end of the fight with Pein, forcing the 9-tails chakra into Pein with Pein's own chakra blade when he stabbed Naruto.

Besides absurd remarks like chaosstar's, I thought it was a very good chapter. Being colored as next week's must mean something big might happen.

Aswell as the Danzo and Madara comparisons, I highly doubt one is the other. Madara was off doing stuff for his plans, even giving Sasuke orders face-to-face during the Pein/Naruto battle. Danzo was hiding under the village in the ROOT HQ. This was mentioned before Pein began to attack the village. Also, Danzo knew Naruto wasn't in the village when Naruto left to learn to control sage chakra. Madara didn't he told Pein to go capture Naruto before security around Naruto tightens. And if you disagree, who do you think would be the security for Naruto? ROOT would be, and Danzo is the leader, why would Madara strengthen security on Naruto and then attack, knowing it will be difficult for Pein to do so? It's illogical, think of the behind the scenes and the roles of each character, not their characteristics.
madara was talking about healthy pein
 

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the frog man said it was impossible for the kyuubi to mix with natural chakra. that why he has to supress the kyuubi when he gathers it. did u miss that whole discussion?
Also, that was before the seal was re-established by his dad. And the frog man never said he can't use sage mode with 9-tail's chakra, he only said that he, and his wife, cannot become part of Naruto to help go into sage mode without staying still due to the fox's power. The fox only allows itself to be with naruto as it seems, he doesn't want others being part of Naruto aswell.
 

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Madara was able to use genjutsu on the 9-tails cause to escape genjutsu, you need to have trained agaist it, or have someone near you force chakra into you. Who the hell would try to get near the 9-tails to force chakra into it? No one. Naruto on the other hand, he has no choice, if the 9-tails succumbed to genjutsu, then Naruto can release the genjutsu, same goes for if Naruto falls victim, then the 9-tails will break it. And from what we learned from Itachi being the master of Genjutsu, the eyes can't just put everyone into genjutsu with 1 look, they can only do it one at a time, but if it was a jutsu done to the surroundings, then it can affect both possibly.

once again if what u say is true why didnt thsi happen when naruto fought itachi. sakura forced chakra into him not the 9tails. and its possible to get more then one person with genjutsu. he'll just get naruto and 9tail at the same time
 

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well naruto and sasuke's fight will be an epic that will go for atleast 4 or 5 chapters and i don't know why people say that the power itachi gave naruto is a messagei mean itachi said it himself that he wishes that the day never come when he has to use it so i think that it would be some super awesome power.
ur right 4got bout that gift thing i thnk the reason itachi said that is because if his plans went along as it supose to sasuke wouldv killed madara when he tried to show his face and sasuke would hav made his way home nvr getting into battle with naruto so naruto wont need it .....if only things went as planed.....also the reason he gave that 2 naruto is because naruto told itachi that he sees sasuke as his brother i 4got exactly were i saw that but was a while back in the mangas
 

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madara was talking about healthy pein
That was healthy Pein... How sick Nagato was doesn't affect the 6 other bodies, they are dead, they can't get sick... Nagato only had to transmit chakra, and he wasn't even that sick till later on with the fight against Naruto.
 

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That was healthy Pein... How sick Nagato was doesn't affect the 6 other bodies, they are dead, they can't get sick... Nagato only had to transmit chakra, and he wasn't even that sick till later on with the fight against Naruto.
he started coughing blood as he was using his chakra
 

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Dude, your the one making a character look like a god. If you read the mangas rather then flip through looking at the pictures only, you would have realised that Naruto is stronger then Sasuke. Madara stated in chapter 453 that he needs to get his plans done before Sasuke becomes stronger then what Pein used to be before he died, otherwise he can't use Sasuke anymore. As we saw from the fight between Pein and Naruto, Naruto was stronger then Pein, that's why he defeated Pein. Now if Naruto is stronger then Pein, and Sasuke is weaker then Pein, how does your logic come in that Sasuke would own Naruto...?

And Sasuke's eyes won't be much of a defence, Pein's eyes were the ultimate defence eyes, better then Byakugan and Sharingan, all Sasuke would have against Naruto are his skills, but Naruto has his own jutsus which are stronger, sage mode which makes him stronger then Tsunade, and if those fail, he still has the 9-tails, and since his dad re-established the seal, naruto can use the fox better then before, as we saw at the end of the fight with Pein, forcing the 9-tails chakra into Pein with Pein's own chakra blade when he stabbed Naruto.

Besides absurd remarks like chaosstar's, I thought it was a very good chapter. Being colored as next week's must mean something big might happen.

Aswell as the Danzo and Madara comparisons, I highly doubt one is the other. Madara was off doing stuff for his plans, even giving Sasuke orders face-to-face during the Pein/Naruto battle. Danzo was hiding under the village in the ROOT HQ. This was mentioned before Pein began to attack the village. Also, Danzo knew Naruto wasn't in the village when Naruto left to learn to control sage chakra. Madara didn't he told Pein to go capture Naruto before security around Naruto tightens. And if you disagree, who do you think would be the security for Naruto? ROOT would be, and Danzo is the leader, why would Madara strengthen security on Naruto and then attack, knowing it will be difficult for Pein to do so? It's illogical, think of the behind the scenes and the roles of each character, not their characteristics.
i still think that pein and sasuke are at the same footing (just my opinion).
 

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once again if what u say is true why didnt thsi happen when naruto fought itachi. sakura forced chakra into him not the 9tails. and its possible to get more then one person with genjutsu. he'll just get naruto and 9tail at the same time
Because the seal was broken... Chakra flow between Naruto and the fox wasn't to great. And no, he can't get both at the same time, cause both aren't out at the same time, it's only 1 or the other.
 

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ur right 4got bout that gift thing i thnk the reason itachi said that is because if his plans went along as it supose to sasuke wouldv killed madara when he tried to show his face and sasuke would hav made his way home nvr getting into battle with naruto so naruto wont need it .....if only things went as planed.....also the reason he gave that 2 naruto is because naruto told itachi that he sees sasuke as his brother i 4got exactly were i saw that but was a while back in the mangas
yeah i read that to it was when the pa frog came to tell everyone that the j man is dead.
 
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