Kumogakure vs Pein v2

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Actually, all paths destroyed Konoha, Chikushodo destroyed the Gama Trio. Hinata? Lol. Really? And the Kumogakure are much more powerful than the Konoha in military strength.

That is purely because of their skills and overall number, along with the most skilled Jinchuuriki in the world. Had kakuzu and hidan attacked Kumogakure, I can assure you they would have no mere chuunins that would beat them. The reason behind the stronger military force is because after the Kurama attack, not only did they lose the fastest ninja in the world and economic power, they lost Full Kurama, which kept them above the other villages. Then after that, they lost the third. Tsunade's generation, other than the K11, is purely pathetic.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

No way Gakido can withstand several Bijuudama. Not believable.

Says right there, "Every jutsu, regardless of the chakra proportion, is sucked away and left ineffective."

Again, this is barely a fight. Kakashi and the clansmen stalled greatly until their demise, something that is physically impossible for Kumogakure.

 

[genii96]

What is pain just decides to use CST right off the bat,then folows up with a CT?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Actually, all paths destroyed Konoha, Chikushodo destroyed the Gama Trio. Hinata? Lol. Really? And the Kumogakure are much more powerful than the Konoha in military strength.

This is enough to make anyone face palm so hard they need reconstructive surgery.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Actually, all paths destroyed Konoha, Chikushodo destroyed the Gama Trio. Hinata? Lol. Really? And the Kumogakure are much more powerful than the Konoha in military strength.

This is enough to make anyone face palm so hard they need reconstructive surgery.

That is purely because of their skills and overall number, along with the most skilled Jinchuuriki in the world. Had kakuzu and hidan attacked Kumogakure, I can assure you they would have no mere chuunins that would beat them. The reason behind the stronger military force is because after the Kurama attack, not only did they lose the fastest ninja in the world and economic power, they lost Full Kurama, which kept them above the other villages. Then after that, they lost the third. Tsunade's generation, other than the K11, is purely pathetic

Nigga you serious?

Kakashi, tsunade, naruto, hiashi. These are some of the top who fought pein, and even if the other citizens were there it would change nothing.

Anko, Yamato, sakura, Anbu( itachi, kakashi use to be part of them) , root( Fuu & torune among others), neji, guy.

Kumogakure doesn't have a stronger military might than konoha, especially not a far stronger. All they have is Ei and bee, and tsunade was far more useful against Pein than Ei could hope to be. Tsunade actually allowed her villagers to survive.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Why is this an argument? Kumogakure gets stomped.

 

[iiDarui]

This is enough to make anyone face palm so hard they need reconstructive surgery.



Nigga you serious?

Kakashi, tsunade, naruto, hiashi. These are some of the top who fought pein, and even if the other citizens were there it would change nothing.

Anko, Yamato, sakura, Anbu( itachi, kakashi use to be part of them) , root( Fuu & torune among others), neji, guy.

Kumogakure doesn't have a stronger military might than konoha, especially not a far stronger. All they have is Ei and bee, and tsunade was far more useful against Pein than Ei could hope to be. Tsunade actually allowed her villagers to survive.

The show doesn't revolve around the Kumogakure, so we don't know as much ninja as wet do in the Konohagakure. Soooo chyeah

 

[iiDarui]

Says right there, "Every jutsu, regardless of the chakra proportion, is sucked away and left ineffective."

Again, this is barely a fight. Kakashi and the clansmen stalled greatly until their demise, something that is physically impossible for Kumogakure.

Y'all love doubting other villages. Lol. Horrible debaters that can't think outside the box make debates boring.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Y'all love doubting other villages. Lol. Horrible debaters that can't think outside the box make debates boring.

How are we horrible debaters? You are basing your arguments PURELY on fanboyism. Terrible debaters when you are denying Databook and Manga proof?

Low diff stomp, I'm out. You have NO Argument. I ended this.

/thread

 

[iiDarui]

I wasn't calling you guys horrible debaters... Anyways, I'm just not convinced. I'm not denying anything.

 

[AGoodBoy]

The show doesn't revolve around the Kumogakure, so we don't know as much ninja as wet do in the Konohagakure. Soooo chyeah

Hashirama - Considered strongest ninja. Period.
Madara - Next in line
Tobirama - Brother to said strongest ninja, from strongest ninja clan
Hiruzen - said to be strongest kage of his time (during 3rd and 4th raikage time)
Minato - only kage with flee on sight orders (4th raikage time)
Tsunade/orochimaru/jiraiya - Only ninja to be given the name sannin signifying they were very capable shinobi. All 3 were in line to be a hokage (Minato overshadowed orochimaru for the title)
Konoha's White fang - Top ninja feared by some
Kakashi - Son of white fang and an excellent nin
Itachi - S class feared ninja from the uchiha clan
Obito - Running shit as the strongest villian
Naruto - nothing needs to be said here
Sasuke - Follow up to naruto
Shishui - Feared as the greatest genjutsu user produced by the uchiha clan

These are all ninja from konoha, and they can all shit on any Kumogakure nin with the exception( for only a few) of 3rd raikage, bee, ay. It doesn't matter if some of them are dead, or missing from konoha or what not. Strong ninja get recognised regardless ( pein, Gin/kin, Zabuza, 3rd kazekage, etc ).

Uchiha and Senju Clan were #1 and #2 strongest clan and formed konoha.

Konoha destroys Kumogakure, Orochimaru and tobirama Edo tensei's them back, and konoha destroys them again.

 

[iiDarui]

Hashirama - Considered strongest ninja. Period.
Madara - Next in line
Tobirama - Brother to said strongest ninja, from strongest ninja clan
Hiruzen - said to be strongest kage of his time (during 3rd and 4th raikage time)
Minato - only kage with flee on sight orders (4th raikage time)
Tsunade/orochimaru/jiraiya - Only ninja to be given the name sannin signifying they were very capable shinobi. All 3 were in line to be a hokage (Minato overshadowed orochimaru for the title)
Konoha's White fang - Top ninja feared by some
Kakashi - Son of white fang and an excellent nin
Itachi - S class feared ninja from the uchiha clan
Obito - Running shit as the strongest villian
Naruto - nothing needs to be said here
Sasuke - Follow up to naruto
Shishui - Feared as the greatest genjutsu user produced by the uchiha clan

These are all ninja from konoha, and they can all shit on any Kumogakure nin with the exception( for only a few) of 3rd raikage, bee, ay. It doesn't matter if some of them are dead, or missing from konoha or what not. Strong ninja get recognised regardless ( pein, Gin/kin, Zabuza, 3rd kazekage, etc ).

Uchiha and Senju Clan were #1 and #2 strongest clan and formed konoha.

Konoha destroys Kumogakure, Orochimaru and tobirama Edo tensei's them back, and konoha destroys them again.

Strong ninja don't always get recognition. Udon? Moegi? Shizune? They were introduced why? BECAUSE THE STORY REVOLVES AROUND KONOHA. Notice how the Kumogakure was introduced as A village in Shippuden. Not a true statement sir.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Says right there, "Every jutsu, regardless of the chakra proportion, is sucked away and left ineffective."

Again, this is barely a fight. Kakashi and the clansmen stalled greatly until their demise, something that is physically impossible for Kumogakure.

Databook is full of hyperboles.

Preta isn't taking multiple TBBs.

@ that guy that said CST solos all bar Ay and Bee who then get killed - you're a moron.

Both Bee and Ay can solo Pain in the interval during which Deva is disabled.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Strong ninja don't always get recognition. Udon? Moegi? Shizune? They were introduced why? BECAUSE THE STORY REVOLVES AROUND KONOHA. Notice how the Kumogakure was introduced as A village in Shippuden. Not a true statement sir.

Any military might other than Ay, bee or raikageDarui that kumo had would have some sort of screentime in the war.

We've heard about the 1st raikage who was said to be strong. The story has absolute shit nothing to do with him but he was recognized. Why? Because he was strong. Even when Edo tensei was used, there were only 4(?) kumo nins among all those edo brutes, and only gin/kin and 3rd Raikage were real powerhouses. Strong ninja have been recognized by other strong ninja, mentioning fodder changes nothing. Gaara has his suna bandwagon; are those fodder girls relevant to the story, or konoha? No.

Uchiha And Senju Clan were the #2 and #1 Strongest clan, respectively. They formed Konoha.
Konoha > Komogakure by default already.


@Pateu You consistently underestimate pain, so i have nothing to discuss with you; it'd be pointless.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

@Pateu You consistently underestimate pain

Not at all. I think he can take on the likes of EMS Sasuke.

He simply has nothing on Bee and a Devaless Pain is easily solo'd by Ay.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Human path gets A, Preta Path and Animal finish Bee with the dog that consistently grows no matter what attack and Preta Path is according to databook "a spiral that absorbs infinitely" and "renders any jutsu, no matter what the proportion ineffective." After that, this is an effortless stomp.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Not at all. I think he can take on the likes of EMS Sasuke.

He simply has nothing on Bee and a Devaless Pain is easily solo'd by Ay.

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This is literally the only scan i need. Any attempt to say ay/bee still win after this scan is not only baseless, but desperate. Not even Elite Sensor KCM naruto could sense this thing; Ay/Bee are never finding pain while he sits on this.

 

[Zexion~]

Not at all. I think he can take on the likes of EMS Sasuke.

He simply has nothing on Bee and a Devaless Pain is easily solo'd by Ay.

You mean a devaless pain that basically took out Jiraiya, Preta absorbs Ay's armor ..thus canceling his speed, while Asura and Animal bombard him with large aoe attacks, Human could easily sneak in and end Ay...U_U don't underestimate the other paths .. They were hyped to be pretty damn strong and showed it .. untill Kishi decided to just rapidly stomp them for no reason

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You mean a devaless pain that basically took out Jiraiya, Preta absorbs Ay's armor ..thus canceling his speed, while Asura and Animal bombard him with large aoe attacks, Human could easily sneak in and end Ay...U_U don't underestimate the other paths .. They were hyped to be pretty damn strong and showed it .. untill Kishi decided to just rapidly stomp them for no reason

Took out Jiraiya?

Pain never -HIT- Jiraiya before Asura snuck up behind him and sucker punched him.

As far as I'm concerned Jiraiya beat them low-mid diff, he was not injured in the slightest.

This is literally the only scan i need. Any attempt to say ay/bee still win after this scan is not only baseless, but desperate. Not even Elite Sensor KCM naruto could sense this thing;

What are you on about, broski?

Not only is KCM Naruto not a sensor in that situation ( he can only feel bad emotions ), but Nagato used Bansho Ten'in there.

Also Bee was not in BM and that's Nagato, not Pain, whom has superior Rinnegan abilities.

Preta absorbs Ay's armor ..thus canceling his speed

Implying Preta can even catch Ay when SM Jiraiya who is behind Ay in speed blitzed pain twice.

Ay would simply take out the other Paths and then deal with Preta in taijutsu.

 

[Zexion~]

Took out Jiraiya?

Pain never -HIT- Jiraiya before Asura snuck up behind him and sucker punched him.

As far as I'm concerned Jiraiya beat them low-mid diff, he was not injured in the slightest.



What are you on about, broski?

Not only is KCM Naruto not a sensor in that situation ( he can only feel bad emotions ), but Nagato used Bansho Ten'in there.

Also Bee was not in BM and that's Nagato, not Pain, whom has superior Rinnegan abilities.



Implying Preta can even catch Ay when SM Jiraiya who is behind Ay in speed blitzed pain twice.

Ay would simply take out the other Paths and then deal with Preta in taijutsu.

All he needs to do is hold his hands up... Ay won't be able to touch him without his armor being absorbed not to mention Jiraiay's supposed speed blitz was simply because he caught the pains off guard.. After that initial kick Pain was able to deal with SM jiraiya just fine

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People underestimate the pains speed just becasue of that one kick U_U when in reality together their reflexes can handle almost any speed .

Low mid diff ? Your joking. He would of gotten rape stomped had it not been for frog song which was countered by another pain that is not deva (naruka) .. He simply did not have knowledge on the paths abilities which is why he lost (although he would of lost anyways) Which Ay and Bee def. do not have knowledge on them in this fight as well