Obito never casted genjutsu on 4th mizukage

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Obito must have casted Genjutsu on the Sanbi instead on the fourth Mizukage. Then controlling the fourth would be simpler similar to the way he controlled the Kyuubi within Kushina and then extracted it out of her.
 

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GUYS, seriously. THIS whole thread is a BIG fail.. HAS anyone NOT bothered to remember that when Itachi died, and after tobi revealed his sharingan for the first time...Remember when he met up with Kisame again, asking him to forgive him for decieving him? Then he took off his mask and Kisame INSTANTLY recognized him as "former Mizukage, I mean, Madara-san".
 
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That makes zero sense, madara cant pass control of a genjutsu to obito. He could've used the eye that madara had when he died, that would explain why he doesnt use the genjutsu anymore.

But anyways, fact is that obito had control of yagura, the fact that he was able to maintain control for so many years proves that he can do it, there is no denying this fact, whether you want to theorize on how he did it is up to you but it doesnt matter. It is only speculation to say he didnt do it.
 
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His senju dna surpresses the sanbi from breaking his control over yagura, and itachi is the best genjutsu user not obito, i dont care how good you obito wankers think he is. Itachis genjutsu>everyone else.

if obito was so great at genjutsu and whatever why didnt he capture a single jin¿? i mean he could have used the genjutsu and walked them right into akatsukis hideout. theres definitely a catch to him controlling yagura just hasnt been shown yet.
 
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His senju dna surpresses the sanbi from breaking his control over yagura, and itachi is the best genjutsu user not obito, i dont care how good you obito wankers think he is. Itachis genjutsu>everyone else.
Itachi is better at using genjutsu, obito has shown that his is stronger :cool:

if obito was so great at genjutsu and whatever why didnt he capture a single jin¿? i mean he have used the genjutsu and walked them right into akatsukis hideout. theres definitely a catch to him controlling yagura just hasnt been shown yet.
Because then there would be no series, by your logic obito can go from village to village capturing jinchuuriki while they're younger by himself with just kamui. He could've gone to grab naruto a year after minato's death, there's nothing saying that he couldnt. Itachi & kisame broke into konoha, so did the 6P0P, obito with kamui can easily pass the barrier & do it.

@Bold: Speculation
 
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It's been quite a speculation that Obito was the one that casted genjutsu on the 4th mizukage but I believe that this is false.

The main reason:

Obito has yet to show any superior genjutsu skills in the entire series that he has fought except for controlling the nine tails. As we all know having MS gives you the ability to controll the nine tails so it's not a viable fact to say he is epic genjutsu user due to him controlling it with his eyes.

Proof MS grants Kyuubi control:
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Second reason:

If Obito could cast this amazing genjutsu.. why didn't he do it with any one else or recast it on the 4th Mizukage after AO broke it the first time.

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Third reason:

Obito Genjutsu was broken by Kakashi. Not saying Kakashi genjutsu is weak it's just I don't think Kakashi should be able to break a Perfect Jin controlling users Genjutsu.

Final Reason:

Every Uchiha in the series has used high level genjutsu on a strong opponent EXCEPT Obito

Madara used on Raikage(Tailed beast level chakra)
Sasuke used on Danzo (Had 10 sharingans haha)
Itachi used on Orochimaru (Orochimaru was a genjutsu genius)

What really happended?

I believe Madara was the one that casted the genjutsu on the 4th mizukage during the reign of the bloody mist era. It's simply after this point that he may have just let Obito give the instructions but the 4th essentially was still under Madara's control.

You could say it's similar to Madara's control over black zetsu.. He gave Obito the right to boss it around but Madara always had supreme control. If Obito was the controller we would have seem many more people being influenced by him in the series.


In Short:

Madara was the caster. Obito was just passed control

So with this being said can we please stop saying Obito is a master genjutsu user!
plus it cant be him remember in the flashback about obito? he showed that he didnt even have a left eye....and he was bound by gedo at that time see
 
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