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Itachi vs Minato 1v1 (Why Minato would lose)

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Mellanoma said:
Doesn't matter... Besides I don't think minato can make a shadow clone without KCM mode due to stamina. He seems to only be able to create a second clone WITH KCM

Besides... Itachi is the king of clones no way Minato is getting an upper hand on him
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While I agree that the clone argument sucks I must also say that Iam sure minato has more than enough stamina to matain a clone.He was the fourth hokage and has done many more chakra taxing feats
 
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This Mellanoma guy is a Sasuke fanboy trying to ruin Itachi's name and distracting everyone from Sasuke's stpuid fanboy thread U_U

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Mellanoma said:
Doesn't matter... Besides I don't think minato can make a shadow clone without KCM mode due to stamina. He seems to only be able to create a second clone WITH KCM

Besides... Itachi is the king of clones no way Minato is getting an upper hand on him
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In latest chapter, he said it's been a while since he used his new technique(that we'll probably see next chapter) that requires the use of clone. That alone shows he used to use clones when he was alive. Even fodders in Kakashi gaiden were capable to make plenty of clones. Just trying to think alive Minato can't just make your already silly arguments even more stupid
 
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realobito1 said:
While I agree that the clone argument sucks I must also say that Iam sure minato has more than enough stamina to matain a clone.He was the fourth hokage and has done many more chakra taxing feats
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Like? Only thing he has done is warp Kurama which I assume takes a lot of stamina and after that he was exhausted to the point he couldn't create a barrier

Itachi in a sick/near death state: Spammed Amaterasu, Full susanoo, Tsukyomi, and fought sasuke
 
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MinatoTheYellowFlash said:
Yata is useless, its slow just like the sealing sword. By having those things are like having sharingan and not being able to keep up.


Uses sword T/S barrier to susanoo, gg Itachi.
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lmao right because Databook and Manga is wrong and you are correct XD

Itachi cut off all 8 of Orochimaru's hydra heads at an extremely fast pace

Yata and Totsuka have no set forms
 
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We all are just running in circles I believe. Maybe when the Manga is over Kishi will say who is stronger. Until Kishi says isn't everything we say about this fight opinion? Thus it holds no value concerning Kishis Manga? I say save your mental power...the only winner here is Kishi, no?
 
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Mellanoma said:
Like? Only thing he has done is warp Kurama which I assume takes a lot of stamina and after that he was exhausted to the point he couldn't create a barrier

Itachi in a sick/near death state: Spammed Amaterasu, Full susanoo, Tsukyomi, and fought sasuke
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In that case Sasuke has more stamina than anyone even Naruto with the fox.

Fought Dei and Tobi (hurt slept and had to leave)
Chidori Naruto clone while running
Sparred with Itachi clone (still hurt, no healing)
Fought the real Itachi
Use Chidori 4 times including Kirin, Curse mark (eats up chakra) summoned Orochi (took even more chakra)
After he woke up in a lair he used amaterasu (still hurt no healing after all that)
Went on a mission the next few hours.
Fought Killer Bee (still hurt no healing curse mark gone)
blah yeah you know all what happened.
Took off cloak and went to the summit (healed a little bit)
Blah went through the summit
fought probably over 10 strong people.
fought danzo (used susanoo so many times plus amaterasu and chidori)
sparred with kakashi (got complete susanoo)
clash with naruto.

That alone is about all what Naruto have done up until now in the war.

Plus he had to deal with jugo's natural chakra.
 
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RikudouMadara said:
We all are just running in circles I believe. Maybe when the Manga is over Kishi will say who is stronger. Until Kishi says isn't everything we say about this fight opinion? Thus it holds no value concerning Kishis Manga? I say save your mental power...the only winner here is Kishi, no?
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exactly we will never know for sure . im so tired of itachi vs minato threads i just troll on them now . cause i dont know who would win . both are elite shinobi . it could go either way
 
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Mellanoma said:
Doesn't matter... Besides I don't think minato can make a shadow clone without KCM mode due to stamina. He seems to only be able to create a second clone WITH KCM

Besides... Itachi is the king of clones no way Minato is getting an upper hand on him
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chapter 639 confirmed that alive minato can make KB. minatos new jutsu, was used while minato was alive, and his new jutsu needs at least 1 KB to perform.
 
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Imma post my quote

No one can feel or sense the FTG marking or Minato's chakra[when he utilizes it for FTG] because of what we've seen U_U

Alive Minato is above Alive Itachi with Med Diff
KCM Edo Minato as one member said "Murder-Stomps" Edo Itachi

People who say how can Minato seal him need to slap themselves U_U

Also if anyone's gonna argue then be prepared. Imma drop how Alive Minato up until 560 beats the Final Itachi, getting past the Susanoo is included as well! With Current FTG haxx and non-KCM feats he goes even above U_U



Minato wins this,he has all the answers to Itachi's attacks and can come out as the victor if the two of them were to face each other in ideal conditions.

Read the following

Minato vs Sharingan Itachi :

Minato can beat Sharingan Itachi.

Minato has more speed,raw strength,chakra, powerful summons, seals.

Further he did beat Sharingan Tobi [MS Obito].


Minato vs Amaterasu :

A Few thing from wiki :
A using his Lightning Release Armour enhanced Body Flicker Technique avoided a short-range Amaterasu launched at him by Sasuke in an instant.

The only thing that the flames have failed to burn into or through is Gaara's chakra-infused sand. However, the flames burn fairly slowly, sometimes allowing anyone struck by Amaterasu an opportunity to remove whatever clothing or body parts have been caught ablaze. Nagato was able to deflect the flames from his body using Shinra Tensei. Use of the technique also puts a great deal of strain on the user, usually causing their eyes to bleed.

Minato dodged A's FULL speed the picture is in the Susanoo section below.
We've seen that A who wasn't even using his full speed dodged Sasuke's Amaterasu [Which according to Shee was better than Itachi's] at very close range. So Minato can do the same with more ease.

So even if Minato gets hit by Amaterasu he being the fastest of them all and thanks to s/t can save himself by teleporting himself back to his safe house. He did this when Tobi had bombed new-born Naruto.

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Plus Itachi can't use Amaterasu very often it affects him badly because he lacks the Eternal

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One more thing Jiraya sealed Amaterasu. So its safe to assume that Minato being the sealing master he is can do the same with more ease.

Minato vs Tsukuyomi :

Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed. Its a short Ranged Genjutsu and to my knowledge the root knew about it and It hasn't killed a single soul.

Guy was confident to go up against Itachi w/out Eye contact a Jounin os his calibre can fight w/pot eye contact. Further its common knowledge that when fighting a Sharingan user avoid eye contact and that can be done.

For Itachi to trap Minato in tsukuyomi Minato need to look directly into hie eyes and that to at a cllose range which Minato will never do.

In fact Itachi can't afford to keep Minato at a close range because Minato is bad close range match up.

I mean look at all his fights all he does is to get close to the opponent, All those fodders, Tobi even A the raikage...all those pictures are posted below.

Minato vs Susanoo :

Minato can get past Itachi's complete Susanoo -

Here are some photos that shows that Minato can teleport in a radius of few meters around the FTG Kunai

Look at the distance

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Appearing directly above Tobi

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Marked Tobi's Back but attacked from the front

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Teleporting himself to the Kunai

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This is the width of Itachi's Complete Susanoo
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From the above data its pretty clear than minato can get past the susanoo via FTG Kunai i.e. Teleporting Inside of it.

Further once Minato's done that Itachi's end is fixed because his body is under enormous amount of pain He won't be able to defend himself.

There are other ways as well such as marking the ground or stones etc.
Minato can attack the susanoo itself :
Here we can see that Danzo used his Summon against Sasuke's Offensive, long Ranged Complete Susanoo

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And it reduced the Susanoo to the incomplete state, the only reason it failed becasue Fire worked against the wind.

In Minato and Itachi's case Minato can use this on Itachi's Defensive Susanoo

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Don't forget Gamabunata has water style that has advantage against Fire style.

Also this is the same summon that went up against Strong Rinnegan summons held its own against a tailed beast Shukaku and restrained a complete Kurama

Plus Minato can use this as well

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The three most powerful toads :

Also before saying BS like Itachi can control them via genjutsu Consider Itachi's state and the Chakra being drained from his body [used for maintaining MS and Susanoo]. He can't do shit against them. He is not Nagato!

In fact now that I think about it Itachi cant put up a descent fight if he has to go through all these summmons.

This could also be the thing why Jiraya was so confident when we was up against Itachi and Kisame

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I mean yeah Itachi never intended to fight but I have 1 question, Has Jiraya ever underestimated his opponent or boasted that He would kill someone who's power would be greater than his ?

Don't you remember what he did before going up against Pain?, He summoned Gerotora because Pain was the only opponent Jiraya wasn't sure about.

One more thing before posting the pic that show Itachi blocking the Rinnegan view with shuriken, The Rinnegan summons don't think for themself they just do what the Rinnegan user wishes that's why they just charge at the opponent w/out thinking or w/out any strategy.

Minato avoiding Direct eye-contacnt against Tobi :

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FizzyDrink said:
I honestly didn't spend the time to read all of that, because I already agree with you.

I will however like to mention another possible strategy.

Minato has the space time barrier, allowing him to transport any projectile wherever he wants. This is frankly a secret OP jutsu. Just think. He could have Gama shoot a water cannonball and then warp it INTO Itachi's Susanoo. That should be entirely within the realm of possibility. Similarly, Minato could also warp one of his kunai into Susanoo, allowing him to teleport into it.

I just wanted to add another possible strategy to Minato's arsenal.

Edit: Also a possible argument to those of you saying that he would look into Itachi's eyes because he did against Tobi, a possible explanation is that Minato, knowing that Tobi was already using a genjutsu to control the fox, would be unable to use it on Minato at the same time. So Minato, understanding that he was not threatened by genjutsu, freely looked into Tobi's eyes.
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Edit :

Kishimoto has already answered in his fanbook that anyone with toad contract can summon Ma and Pa. If Minato does that
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for those who haven't seen it:

chapter 639 confirmed that alive minato can make KB. minatos new jutsu was used while minato was alive, and his new jutsu needs at least 1 KB to perform.

are you still going to claim that alive minato can't use it?
 
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