Edo kcm minato vs Edo itachi.

Who wins?

  • Edo minato

    Votes: 28 75.7%
  • Edo itachi

    Votes: 9 24.3%

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You have to be able to see them to know they are there. How is Itachi going to look at the back of his Susanoo?
Im saying how would he get behind him in the first place. to teleport he needs to place a seal .. so if he were to place a seal behind itachi he could see that it is there.. Shunsin's you still know where the person is after a shunsin.. especially with precog .. and if its a shunsin he simply need turn and slash at the same time
 

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Im saying how would he get behind him in the first place. to teleport he needs to place a seal .. so if he were to place a seal behind itachi he could see that it is there.. Shunsin's you still know where the person is after a shunsin.. especially with precog .. and if its a shunsin he simply need turn and slash at the same time
He doesn't need to teleport to be able to get behind Itachi. Shunshin says hi. My god are you serious with the bold? Ays Shunshin escaped Sharingan's pre cog. Sasuke was left dumbfounded as to where he went until he appeared behind him, if that were Minato and Itachi, Susanoo would have been touched and ported before Itachi ever turned his Susanoo around to slash Minato. He can't be tracked when using Shunshin


KCM Minato Shunshin>KCM Naruto Shunshin>Ay Shunshin. Sharingan isn't keeping up with that. It doesn't matter if he knows where he is because by the time he's touched Susanoo he can teleport it away.
 

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He doesn't need to teleport behind Itachi to be able to get behind Itachi. Shunshin says high. My god are you serious? Ays Shunshin escaped Sharingan's pre cog. He can't be tracked when using Shunshin


KCM Minato Shunshin>KCM Naruto Shunshin>Ay Shunshin. Sharingan isn't keeping up with that. It doesn't matter if he knows where he is because by the time he's touched Susanoo he can teleport it away.

Sasuke still knew Ay was behind him though .. hence how he blocked him with amertarasu.. itachi could do the same . especially since his relfexes are better then sasuke's as is his speed ..
 

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Sasuke still knew Ay was behind him though .. hence how he blocked him with amertarasu.. itachi could do the same . especially since his relfexes are better then sasuke's as is his speed ..
Sasuke knew Ay was behind after Ay had stopped behind him to karate chop his Susanoo. In no way shape or form did Sasuke react to Ay, and you're comparing Sasuke instantly spawning flames on his Susanoo to Itachi turning his Full armored Susanoo around to slash Minato, before he touches it. It isn't happening.

There's also the fact that KCM Minato's Shunshin is above Ay's and the gap isn't small.
 

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Sasuke knew Ay was behind after Ay had stopped behind him to karate chop his Susanoo. In no way shape or form did Sasuke react to Ay, and you're comparing Sasuke instantly spawning flames on his Susanoo to Itachi turning his Full armored Susanoo around to slash Minato, before he touches it. It isn't happening.

There's also the fact that KCM Minato's Shunshin is above Ay's and the gap isn't small.
Well the gap between itachi and Sasuke is not that small either ;) .. And so why can itachi not adopt a similar strategy ... and actually can i get a scan .. of that Ay thing .. i have it somewhere in my house but i cant find it and i forget the chapter
 

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Well the gap between itachi and Sasuke is not that small either ;) .. And so why can itachi not adopt a similar strategy ... and actually can i get a scan .. of that Ay thing .. i have it somewhere in my house but i cant find it and i forget the chapter
This is the scan. Karin clearly says he couldn't follow Ay's movements.


-Can't track Minato.
-Isn't turning his Susanoo around to slash Minato before he touches Susanoo after getting behind it.
-Using Sasuke and Ay as a reference is flawed because Sasuke simply has to think to spawn Amaterasu on his Susanoo. Itachi has to actually turn his Susanoo around and then he has to slash Minato, all before he touches the Susanoo. Not happening.
-Minato is faster than Ay, by a considerable amount.
@bold: lol? Got proof of this?
 

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This is the scan. Karin clearly says he couldn't follow Ay's movements.


-Can't track Minato.
-Isn't turning his Susanoo around to slash Minato before he touches Susanoo after getting behind it.
-Using Sasuke and Ay as a reference is flawed because Sasuke simply has to think to spawn Amaterasu on his Susanoo. Itachi has to actually turn his Susanoo around and then he has to slash Minato, all before he touches the Susanoo. Not happening.
-Minato is faster than Ay, by a considerable amount.
@bold: lol? Got proof of this?
Nah i was joking hes faster but not by that much .. Also holy shit .. wait why can't itachi just do what sasuke did .. so if Minato touches the susano to seal it .. he gets burnt to ash .. :hint:
 

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Well the gap between itachi and Sasuke is not that small either ;) .. And so why can itachi not adopt a similar strategy ... and actually can i get a scan .. of that Ay thing .. i have it somewhere in my house but i cant find it and i forget the chapter
Itachi who was in urge to stop kabuto and never wanted Sasuke by his side didn't manage to outspeed him and ressorted to crows to try to stop him smh(which failed in the end). There is no gap in speed between them. Actually if we go by feats and hype, Sasuke is above Itachi in terms of shunshin. Base Minato on the contrary didn't only outspeed Hokages and Sasuke's group badly, but managed to make his preparations by going at some point middle ocean to put one marking and coming back, having a little chat with his son and Sakura before they actually came
 

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Itachi who was in urge to stop kabuto and never wanted Sasuke by his side didn't manage to outspeed him and ressorted to crows to try to stop him smh(which failed in the end). There is no gap in speed between them. Actually if we go by feats and hype, Sasuke is above Itachi in terms of shunshin. Base Minato on the contrary didn't only outspeed Hokages and Sasuke's group badly, but managed to make his preparations by going at some point middle ocean to put one marking and coming back, having a little chat with his son and Sakura before they actually came
I was joking lol .. No itachi is faster then Sasuke says the DB .. unless EMS grants them speed boosts lol
 

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I was joking lol .. No itachi is faster then Sasuke says the DB .. unless EMS grants them speed boosts lol
What databook shows is called reflexive speed. In speed there is 2 categorys. Your body movement(reflexive speed) and shunshin(which is a ninjutsu). Itachi has greater reflexive speed than Sasuke according to databook(which is outdated by now btw), but i was talking about shunshin here. Sasuke's shunshin is above Itachi's going by his feat and hype. Databook go even as far as to say that every opponent would die instantly because of this
 

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What databook shows is called reflexive speed. In speed there is 2 categorys. Your body movement(reflexive speed) and shunshin(which is a ninjutsu). Itachi has greater reflexive speed than Sasuke according to databook(which is outdated by now btw), but i was talking about shunshin here. Sasuke's shunshin is above Itachi's going by his feat and hype. Databook go even as far as to say that every opponent would die instantly because of this
Technically the only ones credited to using Body Flicker are A,Shiusi and Third raikage :what: just throwing that out there..

Anyways his reflex speed allows him to react to faster opponents better anyways .. Although i still think Itachi's shunsins are better then sasuke's
 

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Nah i was joking hes faster but not by that much .. Also holy shit .. wait why can't itachi just do what sasuke did .. so if Minato touches the susano to seal it .. he gets burnt to ash .. :hint:
This is a joke right? Because Itachi doesn't have the ability to manipulate the flames how don't you remember that?
 

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Technically the only ones credited to using Body Flicker are A,Shiusi and Third raikage :what: just throwing that out there..

Anyways his reflex speed allows him to react to faster opponents better anyways .. Although i still think Itachi's shunsins are better then sasuke's
Don't know if you even know what shunshin is

1- Itachi has practically no shunshin feat in this manga as far as i remember when Sasuke has plenty of them.
2- Databook clearly hypes Sasuke's shunshin to be godly. Itachi never received hype in terms of shunshin

For me it's clear that according to the manga, Sasuke's shunshin is above Itachi's, but meh everyone can have his opinion
 

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This is a joke right? Because Itachi doesn't have the ability to manipulate the flames how don't you remember that?
This is not enton he simply set his susanoo ablaze with Ameterasu
Don't know if you even know what shunshin is

1- Itachi has practically no shunshin feat in this manga as far as i remember when Sasuke has plenty of them.
2- Databook clearly hypes Sasuke's shunshin to be godly. Itachi never received hype in terms of shunshin

For me it's clear that according to the manga, Sasuke's shunshin is above Itachi's, but meh everyone can have his opinion
Actually the concept confuses me a little .. Becuase Its hard to distinguish in the manga whether its a shunsin or simply speed ..:/
 

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Actually the concept confuses me a little .. Becuase Its hard to distinguish in the manga whether its a shunsin or simply speed ..:/
The major difference between reflexive speed and shunshin is that reflexive speed depends on your body capacity to act or react accordingly, when Shunshin doesn't depend on your body movement at all. Like i've stated it's a ninjutsu technique. Depending on the amount of chakra you mold, you can travel through far distances. For more explanations, here is a link:
 
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