Derp Obito was right..

[RikudouMadara]

Ofc Derp Obito was right.

He's always right.

I can't recall any of his theories being wrong.

This so this! :yayy:XD

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Sasuke's annoying damn face is in Juubito's other hand -_-

He was shielding its target (Naruto) so Jūbito shook him off with the other hand

 

[Bogard]

We still don't know yet seems he attacked everyone during this chapter, and more the time past, more i think he is wrong

 

[Penguin]

Derp's theories are always right!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

We still don't know yet seems he attacked everyone during this chapter, and more the time past, more i think he is wrong

Nope, it's Naruto he's after, the rest are merely hindrances

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He even kicked Minato out of the way Lol

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[ObitoGokuKakashi]

@ObitoGokuKakashi do you by any chance is derp obito kagebushin ? idk but you have the same chakra/explanation style..

If you're trying to say that I copied him ... nope.

 

[Dantee]

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I'm pretty sure most people already knew this bro.

This.10char

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

This.10char

The same thing will be said when Rikūdo Sennin is revealed to be an Uzumaki

 

[Dantee]

The same thing will be said when Rikūdo Sennin is revealed to be an Uzumaki

**** no. The only actual theory you made will turn out to fail.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

**** no. The only actual theory you made will turn out to fail.

No, it is a logical certainty, the Sage is Uzumaki Lol

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The truth of the matter is the Uchiha and Senju Ancestors were created from the Jūbi's essence much like the Bijūs with Banbutsu Sōzō, the Uchiha is the Yin of the Jūbi while the Senju is the Yang of the Jūbi.

The Uzumaki is the original bloodline of Rikūdo Sennin before sealing the Jūbi, that is why Naruto is an Uzumaki and not a Senju, for as an Uzumaki, Naruto parallels Rikūdo, the human Rikūdo prior to becoming Jūbi's Jinchūriki

 

[saw2097]

i thought it was obvious... what i find interesting is... if jubito is only after naruto why did he attack sasuke as well on the last panel? i mean he didnt just attacked him cause he was close... if that was correct he could have attacked hiruzan as well last chapter...

Sasuke was trying to protect Naruto from Juubito at the time, so Juubito attacked him as well.

OT: I think Sir Derp Obito has only been wrong once so far and that was when he said Obito would be TNJ in the Kamui dimension, but that's about it. All of his theories have been right so far, not neccesarily perfectly accurate but about as close as you can get.

Naruto is definitely the Juubito's target.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Some of my theories have already been proven:

1 Madara was merely testing Hashirama to commit suicide

2 Madara read the Uchiha Tablet before departing from the Village.

3 Kakashi will try to Kamui the Juubi (Shikoku's battle plan)

4 Rin herself asked Kakashi to kill her and that her fate would mirror Haku's

5 Orochimaru has genuinely changed

6 Sasuke will not read the Uchiha Tablet

7 The Juubi's Body is Mokuton

8 Juubito's true target was Naruto

 

[Dantee]

The truth of the matter is the Uchiha and Senju Ancestors were created from the Jūbi's essence much like the Bijūs with Banbutsu Sōzō, the Uchiha is the Yin of the Jūbi while the Senju is the Yang of the Jūbi.

The Uzumaki is the original bloodline of Rikūdo Sennin before sealing the Jūbi, that is why Naruto is an Uzumaki and not a Senju, for as an Uzumaki, Naruto parallels Rikūdo, the human Rikūdo prior to becoming its Jinchūriki

Why is it canon then that Uzamaki's are descendants of the Senjus? Your theory sounds good, but the manga has already made claims which directly contradicts this theory. The Sage possessed the Rinnegan and had a strong body to seal the juubi inside.

His two sons inherited his powers split into two. Which later became the Uchiha and the Senju. Why does the Rikudou have to be a Uzamaki? The story is fine as it is. Him being a Uzamaki leads to more questions than answers.

 

[saw2097]

Some of my theories have already been proven:

1 Madara was merely testing Hashirama to commit suicide

2 Madara read the Uchiha Tablet before departing from the Village.

3 Kakashi will try to Kamui the Juubi (Shikoku's battle plan)

4 Rin herself asked Kakashi to kill her and that her fate would mirror Haku's

5 Orochimaru has genuinely changed

6 Sasuke will not read the Uchiha Tablet

7 The Juubi's Body is Mokuton

8 Juubito's true target was Naruto

I will second him and confirm that he did predict these things early on, he isn't lying.

Edit: I should know, I debated with on many of those subjects.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Why is it canon then that Uzamaki's are descendants of the Senjus? Your theory sounds good, but the manga has already made claims which directly contradicts this theory. The Sage possessed the Rinnegan and had a strong body to seal the juubi inside.

His two sons inherited his powers split into two. Which later became the Uchiha and the Senju. Why does the Rikudou have to be a Uzamaki? The story is fine as it is. Him being a Uzamaki leads to more questions than answers.

That is incorrect, I'm assuming your basis for that was Zetsu's statement:

There is a great misconception in Zetsu's statement in chapter 606 saying that Nagato is a descendant of the Senjus because he is of Senju Lineage:

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It is not Zetsu's statement that is erroneous but the interpretation of others, if we take the translation of lineage based on the context of Zetsu's statement in conjunction with Kushina's statement in a previous chapter, the most accurate meaning of lineage, based on context, is the anthropological definition of the word: Kinship/Consanguinity:

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Kushina said the Uzumakis and Senjus were distant relatives, the true intended meaning of the word "lineage" based on the context of Zetsu's statement was : Consanguine of being related by blood, not Nagato descending from the Senjus : Nagato is a blood relative (lineage) of the Senju.

If the Senjus and Uzumakis descended from the same ancestor (Younger Son) then they will be close/immediate relatives, not distant relatives like Kushina said, which would contradict her statement and Manga canon, so it's logical to assume that the present day Uzumakis are "cousins" to both Senju and Uchiha since they did not descend from Rikudou himself but from Rikudou's relatives.

Also the original Japanese text of Zetsu in 606 is this:

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The original Japanese word that Zetsu used was "血縁" or Ketsuen which translates as "Blood Relative" NOT 子孫 or Shison which means descendant.

Anyone who can read Japanese will tell you that Zetsu's statement only meant blood relations but not pertaining to descent:

Sorry Sasuke2, but you're wrong. Try to read original Japanese manga Naruto especially if your theory is based on one word. Here:

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Here we have chapter you mentioned (Chapter 606):

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Now carefully look at Zetsu's words. Ser Derp Obito is right about this chapter. Zetsu used word 血縁 written in hiragana like this けつえん. And this word has only two meanings:
1) blood relative or relationship
2) consanguinity

 

[Dantee]

Taking apart from what you said it's still very well possible they could still be descendants. Distant relatives can still thrive from the same senju blood. It doesn't disclose the manga facts given to us outright.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Taking apart from what you said it's still very well possible they could still be descendants. Distant relatives can still thrive from the same senju blood. It doesn't disclose the manga facts given to us outright.

It's a logical impossibility for them to be descendants of the Senjus, for one thing they live in an entirely different country (Land of Whirlpools) not to mention their complete apathy to the First Shinobi World War (they only allied with Konoha later on when it was founded) and there was no mention of the Uzumakis descending from the Senju Ancestor:

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Elder Son: Uchiha, Younger Son: Senju no mention of the Uzumakis whatsoever.

And look at the symbolism of the Senjus and Uzumakis:

The Senju's symbol is the Vajra, roughly only 2000 years old:

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The Uzumaki symbol is the Spiral from the Neolithic and Megalithic Era aka prehistoric times 10,000-15,000 years old:

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From a plot logical standpoint and from a literary symbolic standpoint, it's absolutely impossible for the Uzumakis to have descended from the Senjus, quite the contrary, the apical ancestor of both Elder and Younger Sons was an Uzumaki: Rikudou Sennin.

 

[Dantee]

It's a logical impossibility for them to be descendants of the Senjus, for one thing they live in an entirely different country (Land of Whirlpools) not to mention their complete apathy to the First Shinobi World War (they only allied with Konoha later on when it was founded) and there was no mention of the Uzumakis descending from the Senju Ancestor:

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Elder Son: Uchiha, Younger Son: Senju no mention of the Uzumakis whatsoever.

I think the location of their clan is quite irrelevant no? If they don't like war of course they would isolate themselves somewhere else. Your picture only proves of who the direct decedents of the Sage were. The Rikudou ultimately gave up his title to the younger son. It raises the question (if he was supposedly from the Uzumaki) why did he entrust his son/his senju clan with the responsibilities of his throne rather than a follower from his own tribe.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I think the location of their clan is quite irrelevant no? If they don't like war of course they would isolate themselves somewhere else. Your picture only proves of who the direct decedents of the Sage were. The Rikudou ultimately gave up his title to the younger son. It raises the question (if he was supposedly from the Uzumaki) why did he entrust his son/his senju clan with the responsibilities of his throne rather than a follower from his own tribe.

No, it is pertinent and material, the location of their clan is indicative that it has always been their place of origin: the Land of Eddys, while the Senjus and Uchihas live in the Land of Fire, not because the Uzumakis re-settled themselves (which is highly farfetched) but rather because they have always lived there to begin with, and naturally a father would give his inheritance to his sons, the Younger Son his successorship while the Elder Son the Uchiha Tablet, what he left to his kindred: the Uzumakis is Fuuinjutsu, all Uzumaki Jutsus are Rikudou's jutsus.