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You know what is funny? That people are angry he killed some kid yet they all want to butcher him when they don't even know the facts about this case. Why should he listen to 911 when these people won't listen to the cops or the law.

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<div class="bbWrapper">Of course he was not guilty. You guys should know all the facts before you start complaining about how Zimmerman should've went to jail. The mainstream media paint Martin to be a sweet good kid. Yet he wasn't at all. He was a gang banger. All of the evidence that would've shown that the judge decided not to allow into the courts. All of his hateful text messages to his girlfriend about how he was going to get Zimmerman and everything that was inportant. <br /> <br /> Then the kid gets shot for good reason and America turns it into a stupid racial thing. Makes me sick to be a person of color sometimes. I'm glad Zimmerman got off. Finally people saw some truth in this country. Give it rest already guys, there are far more important things going on in the world. I'm just glad the trial is over.</div>
 

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I'm glad that this is finally over. But I can honestly say that I'm dissatisfied with the ruling. I would have thought that Zimmerman would have at least gotten involuntary manslaughter. It wouldn't have carried as much weight punishment wise but it would have been something. I know it's not the law but I've always said that force should equal force. A 36 year old with a gun vs a 17 year old with food does not equal same force. If anything, he could have shot to wound and then fled to safety. He didn't have to shoot to kill.
 

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Re: George Zimmerman found not guilty

We need more shepherds and less sheep in this world.
Interesting how people claim they know all the facts when in reality the only people who truly know all the facts are Zimmerman and Trayvon.

I haven't really been keeping track therefore i do not know much, but also i keep hearing two completely different sides of the story and that goes to show the type of facts that people claim they know.

Anyway from what i can remember from my A- level law is that in a civil case the burden of proof is on the balance of probabilities while in a criminal case it has to be beyond reasonable doubt.

From what i have gathered they failed to establish this.
I have read so many cases of people convicted for murder and in some cases on the death penalty and later evidence proves otherwise, while not taking sides i can see why Zimmerman was acquitted and tbh i wasn't surprised, though the self defence plea is rather iffy.

An adult with a gun vs a kid with skittles isn't exactly what id call reasonable force. But i can understand to an extent (again from what i have heard), that Trayvon height and build might have played a part.

On a lighter but, yet serious note, i hope this riot doesn't come about.
But if it does, need not worry. My auntie forcing me to come over and visit her in Oklahoma. I got family in Boston and California as well. So most likely i will visit next year.

With my british accent, which your girls like and how african american girls and white girls alike have a thing for guys with 'good' hair ill not only populate oklahoma, california and boston when i visit my cousins, ill come over to florida and not only restore the population, but double it.

Besides i have a thing for latin/hispanic girls and the few here are mostly in london and i don't live there, so those will be my first priority.

This should also stop some of the race based incidents in that area, because the population would have similar shades and my dna (african, european and caribbean).

To the florida males on here, if your girl has a kid with long black curly hair. Hope you know that you fathering my kid :cool:



I'm racist now! I hate so strongly right now!!!!
Nope you ain't. You cannot turn racist over night.
Now when we all get mad, we say things we do not mean and its obvious you do not mean this, come on now.

Btw what your sister saying. You might have me as a brother in law you know *_*
 
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Re: George Zimmerman found not guilty

We need more shepherds and less sheep in this world.
Interesting how people claim they know all the facts when in reality the only people who truly know all the facts are Zimmerman and Trayvon.

I haven't really been keeping track therefore i do not know much, but also i keep hearing two completely different sides of the story and that goes to show the type of facts that people claim they know.

Anyway from what i can remember from my A- level law is that in a civil case the burden of proof is on the balance of probabilities while in a criminal case it has to be beyond reasonable doubt.

From what i have gathered they failed to establish this.
I have read so many cases of people convicted for murder and in some cases on the death penalty and later evidence proves otherwise, while not taking sides i can see why Zimmerman was acquitted and tbh i wasn't surprised, though the self defence plea is rather iffy.

An adult with a gun vs a kid with skittles isn't exactly what id call reasonable force. But i can understand to an extent (again from what i have heard), that Trayvon height and build might have played a part.

On a lighter but, yet serious note, i hope this riot doesn't come about.
But if it does, need not worry. My auntie forcing me to come over and visit her in Oklahoma. I got family in Boston and California as well. So most likely i will visit next year.

With my british accent, which your girls like and how african american girls and white girls alike have a thing for guys with 'good' hair ill not only populate oklahoma, california and boston when i visit my cousins, ill come over to florida and not only restore the population, but double it.

Besides i have a thing for latin/hispanic girls and the few here are mostly in london and i don't live there, so those will be my first priority.

This should also stop some of the race based incidents in that area, because the population would have similar shades and my dna (african, european and caribbean).

To the florida males on here, if your girl has a kid with long black curly hair. Hope you know that you fathering my kid :cool:





Nope you ain't. You cannot turn racist over night.
Now when we all get mad, we say things we do not mean and its obvious you do not mean this, come on now.

Btw what your sister saying. You might have me as a brother in law you know *_*
Blaze i have a minor in African American studies, this kind of incident has happened before on multiple occasions and it's tiresome. History is proven time ad time again that the system is racist and ll always be racist. I always identified more with a Malcolm X than a MLK.
 

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Blaze i have a minor in African American studies, this kind of incident has happened before on multiple occasions and it's tiresome. History is proven time ad time again that the system is racist and ll always be racist. I always identified more with a Malcolm X than a MLK.
Yes i have also read quiet a lot of cases from unbiased sources, where its clear as day that the system isn't fair.
However in this case i am not too sure.

I can see you are serious because you didn't even hit back at me getting with your sister
 

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Yes i have also read quiet a lot of cases from unbiased sources, where its clear as day that the system isn't fair.
However in this case i am not too sure.

I can see you are serious because you didn't even hit back at me getting with your sister
Yes, this case has hit deep for me. Honestly i don't even want to go to work tomorrow, i really might slap the shyt outta my coworker (i already don't him).
 

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Why are you sighing for? I'm not saying he did do it in self defense and trayvon deserved to die. But I wasn't there so idk A life was taken away and yea it's sad but you guys gotta think do you honestly think the guy woke up one day and said to himself "I'm gonna kill somebody today!" No. Something happened that caused that event I'm not saying it was justified but shit that's life people come and go everyday and mother Earth never misses them cause Y'know what they say everythign ends with a beginning one man dies and a new baby is born. And also people are so full of shit especially black people they're quick to pull out the race card for every little thing. Black teens die everyday and who are killing them? Niggas, excuse my language but that's a fact and everyone knows it those kids who die everyday aren't on the news. No one cares everyone goes on with their lives but as soon as a hispanic person kills one it's made national news for a whole year and no one can call me racist cause I'm African American. And idk why you guys are surprised it's the U.S. remember that lady who killed her daughter and buried her in her back yard I forgot her name but she wasn't found guilty either the justice system is awesome ain't it? lmao
If you are african american then am the heir to the british throne, your whole message suggest otherwise i find it hard to belive that a 17 year old teenager could physically beat an armed guard who must have had defense/fighting classes up to the point he would need to be gunned downl, race always come to play and it diverts real judgement from being carried out,thats the sad fact about the america jury system.
 
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same people here that are happy this man is innocent, were trying to put the policeman in jail for killing a dog. z.z

i know not the same, i just find it funny XD
 

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I'm glad that this is finally over. But I can honestly say that I'm dissatisfied with the ruling. I would have thought that Zimmerman would have at least gotten involuntary manslaughter. It wouldn't have carried as much weight punishment wise but it would have been something. I know it's not the law but I've always said that force should equal force. A 36 year old with a gun vs a 17 year old with food does not equal same force. If anything, he could have shot to wound and then fled to safety. He didn't have to shoot to kill.
Shoot to injure? Whenever you shoot or stab anyone you can kill them by hitting a major vein or organ. When you shoot someone it is always shoot to kill because you just may kill them, especially when your head is being bashed against concrete and you are just firing at the person ontop of you
Meanwhile in Chicago.......
Shhhhhh Its not on the news so obviously its not important. We don't want any of those inconvenient little "facts" seeping into our panic and blind rage.
 

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Shoot to injure? Whenever you shoot or stab anyone you can kill them by hitting a major vein or organ. When you shoot someone it is always shoot to kill because you just may kill them, especially when your head is being bashed against concrete and you are just firing at the person ontop of you

Shhhhhh Its not on the news so obviously its not important. We don't want any of those inconvenient little "facts" seeping into our panic and blind rage.
He could have still shot him and injured him. He didn't have to fire directly in the kid's chest. He could have easily fired towards his arms or his legs or his groin. But, again, I still believe that the force was excessive (as I consider it) and that the situation had the potential to end differently if both parties had acted in a smarter manner.
 

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I know it's not the law but I've always said that force should equal force. A 36 year old with a gun vs a 17 year old with food does not equal same force. If anything, he could have shot to wound and then fled to safety. He didn't have to shoot to kill.
You're confused.

If I pick your head up and slam it against the concrete - it is potentially just as lethal as any wound from a firearm. More so, actually.

People are horribly naïve. I'm close enough to people to kill them in under three seconds about 30 times per day on the average. Most of them are complete strangers.

Give me a knife, and I can work my way through at least three people in most places before untrained civilians would be able to mount any kind of real reaction to my behavior.

A firearm? How much ammo do I have? The local police may as well be civilians in that case.

There is no such thing as "shoot to wound." There is no such thing as "shoot to kill." You discharge your weapon to cease the imminent threat of deadly force against you. If the person dies because of it - that's the potential consequence of deadly force.

This is exceptionally strict among law enforcement circles. We are specifically told not to say: "Stop or I will shoot." Why? Because the "I will shoot" constitutes a threat that escalates the situation. You simply give the order. If the threat does not cease and is deemed imminent, then you discharge your weapon to put a stop to the threat.

In the case of using hard and soft controls, such as when bringing a person who is resisting under restraint - you can't say: "If you don't stop, I'm going to have to dislocate your shoulder."

You may know that what you -have- to do to them to do your job is going to result in dislocating their shoulder. Saying that, however, is a threat and conveys that you intend to harm the person rather than bring them into compliance.

But, no, there is no such thing as "shoot to wound." There is no 'safe' place to shoot a person. Your legs are full of arteries that will rupture and you will bleed out before the necessary surgery without a tourniquet (which will result in the loss of your leg). Your intestines are full of bacteria and caustic solutions that will dissolve your body cavity and/or infect it. Shoulder and lung are very close to being the same. About the 'safest' place to get shot is your butt. If you -have- to take a bullet, take it to your ass.

But walking and sitting are both going to be... well... a pain in the ass.

Blaze i have a minor in African American studies, this kind of incident has happened before on multiple occasions and it's tiresome. History is proven time ad time again that the system is racist and ll always be racist. I always identified more with a Malcolm X than a MLK.
[video=youtube;M5FR1LGsT7E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E[/video]

It is spot on.

"The system" can only work with what it's given. When you look at what it has to work with; the statistics are no surprise.

He could have still shot him and injured him. He didn't have to fire directly in the kid's chest. He could have easily fired towards his arms or his legs or his groin. But, again, I still believe that the force was excessive (as I consider it) and that the situation had the potential to end differently if both parties had acted in a smarter manner.
The primary fault for the conflict lies with Trayvon.

A girl goes to a bar wearing skimpy clothing and decides to have a few drinks. She meets a guy, and the two talk for a bit. The next time anyone else sees her, she's banging on some couple's house after fleeing from the guy's car, saying she's been raped.

Could she have prevented the rape? Sure.

Could he have prevented the rape? Sure.

Is she responsible for his decision to rape her?

Logically, the two situations are identical.
 

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He could have still shot him and injured him. He didn't have to fire directly in the kid's chest. He could have easily fired towards his arms or his legs or his groin. But, again, I still believe that the force was excessive (as I consider it) and that the situation had the potential to end differently if both parties had acted in a smarter manner.
So while he is being beat against the concrete he is going to slowly aim for a less vital area or politely ask him to hold still while he shoots him somewhere less-lethal? When you are being beat you don't care where you fire as long as it hits him.

Also, shooting for the groin is cold man... very cold.
 

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Of course he was not guilty. You guys should know all the facts before you start complaining about how Zimmerman should've went to jail. The mainstream media paint Martin to be a sweet good kid. Yet he wasn't at all. He was a gang banger. All of the evidence that would've shown that the judge decided not to allow into the courts. All of his hateful text messages to his girlfriend about how he was going to get Zimmerman and everything that was inportant.

Then the kid gets shot for good reason and America turns it into a stupid racial thing. Makes me sick to be a person of color sometimes. I'm glad Zimmerman got off. Finally people saw some truth in this country. Give it rest already guys, there are far more important things going on in the world. I'm just glad the trial is over.
I don't even.

So just because he did those things warrants him a death? Wow. Just wow.
 
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You're confused.

If I pick your head up and slam it against the concrete - it is potentially just as lethal as any wound from a firearm. More so, actually.

People are horribly naïve. I'm close enough to people to kill them in under three seconds about 30 times per day on the average. Most of them are complete strangers.

Give me a knife, and I can work my way through at least three people in most places before untrained civilians would be able to mount any kind of real reaction to my behavior.

A firearm? How much ammo do I have? The local police may as well be civilians in that case.

There is no such thing as "shoot to wound." There is no such thing as "shoot to kill." You discharge your weapon to cease the imminent threat of deadly force against you. If the person dies because of it - that's the potential consequence of deadly force.

This is exceptionally strict among law enforcement circles. We are specifically told not to say: "Stop or I will shoot." Why? Because the "I will shoot" constitutes a threat that escalates the situation. You simply give the order. If the threat does not cease and is deemed imminent, then you discharge your weapon to put a stop to the threat.

In the case of using hard and soft controls, such as when bringing a person who is resisting under restraint - you can't say: "If you don't stop, I'm going to have to dislocate your shoulder."

You may know that what you -have- to do to them to do your job is going to result in dislocating their shoulder. Saying that, however, is a threat and conveys that you intend to harm the person rather than bring them into compliance.

But, no, there is no such thing as "shoot to wound." There is no 'safe' place to shoot a person. Your legs are full of arteries that will rupture and you will bleed out before the necessary surgery without a tourniquet (which will result in the loss of your leg). Your intestines are full of bacteria and caustic solutions that will dissolve your body cavity and/or infect it. Shoulder and lung are very close to being the same. About the 'safest' place to get shot is your butt. If you -have- to take a bullet, take it to your ass.

But walking and sitting are both going to be... well... a pain in the ass.



[video=youtube;M5FR1LGsT7E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E[/video]

It is spot on.

"The system" can only work with what it's given. When you look at what it has to work with; the statistics are no surprise.



The primary fault for the conflict lies with Trayvon.

A girl goes to a bar wearing skimpy clothing and decides to have a few drinks. She meets a guy, and the two talk for a bit. The next time anyone else sees her, she's banging on some couple's house after fleeing from the guy's car, saying she's been raped.

Could she have prevented the rape? Sure.

Could he have prevented the rape? Sure.

Is she responsible for his decision to rape her?

Logically, the two situations are identical.
I don't know if it's your analogy, but you're making it sound like Trayvon really deserved to get shot for wearing a hoodie. The two situations you listed are too different to be compared the way you compared them. The way you worded it makes it seem like walking around at night with a hoodie while being black means you may be a gangbanger and you should be shot down before you "cause trouble". Lol I can only hope this is not the point you were trying to get across with your comparison.
 
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