[Predictions] Naruto Manga 456 Predictions / 455 Discussion

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Hey i was on this other fourm and someone brought up a good point i dont think it has been discused he but so if it has I am sorry. You know how Danzou is looking for kabuto to help fix him what if kabuto injects Dth anzou with some of orochimaru DNA and orochimaru takes over Danzou body then he will finally have the sharingan but this is unlikely but it will go with the new direction kisimto has been going with shocking plot twist.
 

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I'm getting sick of such speculations that are obviousley wrong....

1. tobi is madara who is immortal, and hence has a young appearance.... danzo is old

2.if he was tobi/madara, he would be an original uchiha not needing to cover his eye as he would be able to control wether the sharingan is active or not

3. he is not obito and he does not have obitos eye, i explained this after the spoiler for this chapter came out in the last predictions spot (go there for kakashi gaiden links for you who need proof) but obitos right side was crushed, before kakashi got his other sharingan. soon after this another rockslide occurs smashing what was left of obito.

in truth im more intersted to see what happened to Rin after the events of gaiden, she could have left the village and become mizukage..... about the right age temper towards men could be caused by kakashis denial of her etc etc. lol just kidding there is NO way that Rin is mizukage hair color is wrong, she didnt act like a medical nin, etc.

so anyway please quit the uchiha connection speculation bull everyone else that knows its wrong is getting sick of it, im open to ideas just not when ive proved it wrong too many times
I knew this post would get a rise outta someone...so in my own defense I offer the following counter points....

1. You ASSUME that Tobi has a young appearance, but the only part of Tobi we see is his hair, toes, sharingan eye through his mask and a sliver of his face in a shadow ONCE when he was filling Sasuke with the misinformation about Itachi. What YOUNG appearance is there really. He ACTS young and immature when he was rolling with Dieadara, but that is just an act...I guess to infiltrate the Akatsuki and take it over. So again...what appearance?

2. Your 2nd point only proves that YOU believe that Tobi is Madara, so based on that Danzo can't be Tobi. I think that Tobi(DANZO) on CLAIMS to be Madara. DANZO/TOBI is the ultimate liar, double-crossing, deep-cover, double agaent spy-like ninja. I mean he runs ROOT. Him pretending to be someone else is not that big of a stretch.

3. I agree that odds are he is NOT Obito, but I think Kishi is using some pretty good mis-direction to keep us guessing (Right side injury, gnarly looking sharingan eye, etc.)...but it is not impossible. There is too much we don't know to discount it as a possibility. It is very possible that the Sharingan eye did come from obito before he totally expired, hence the damaged appearance. Eitehr way neither is impossible. All Kishi has to do is come up with a jutsu that we have yet to see or another plausible means. I mean look at what there is so far...PAIN ressurected the whole village and could limitlessly ressurect his other bodies, Oro is being ressurected through DNA mixing with Kabuto, Gaara received a Life-transfer, Jinchuriki can basically come back from being almost dead, Oro raised the 1st and 2nd using a forbidden tech, 4th Hokage and White Fang are hanging out in Limbo whenever thier sons are almost dead....come' on...based on these things, the Tobi/Danzo/Obito/Madara thing is not THAT crazy.

Besides what ZETSU. We don't know $#it about his powers yet. He is a scavenger, collects bodies, pops up out of the earth wherever he wants. A fresh sharingan eye could be easy pickins' with that guy around (just a guess...)

Lastly (another speculation, but still possible) consider that Sharingan eyes matue differently and produce different effects based on the user. Sasuke's eye does not do what Kakashi's eye does (space/time), and I don't think Kakashi can pull of a tsukoyomi or amaterasu. Danzo's eye might allow him to project a version of himself anywhere. Instant teleportation, attackers pass through him like a shadow...

These speculations could be wrong...but as you stated.....OBVIOUSLY wrong?...I don't think so.

I respect your opinion so if you turn out to be right, I'll post saying so, but if I am right you have to do the same!
 

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What about Danzo is Danzo? seriously, I don't think Kakashi secret to have been able to receive a sharingan would go unnoticed. He seems to be a bastard enough to have acquired one for himself.
Of course in a typical shonen fashion to make it more dramatic, he is probably going to end up being Tobi and have developed some weird sharingan powers.
 

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What about Danzo is Danzo? seriously, I don't think Kakashi secret to have been able to receive a sharingan would go unnoticed. He seems to be a bastard enough to have acquired one for himself.
Of course in a typical shonen fashion to make it more dramatic, he is probably going to end up being Tobi and have developed some weird sharingan powers.
probably i think that may be the case as well
 
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Yo Dudes and dudets.... I beleive. Tobi=Madara, Danzou=Stroppy assh*le, and Obito = Kishis biggest plot mistake (Confuser).

Obito was to explain Kakashi..... and Madara=Obito=Danzou =Tobi is impossible. How could Obito be Madara or Danzou... Age gap..


However I am not being Bias as.....

Obito = Tobi is possible (possible< Unlikely)

Danzou= Tobi (Possible> Unlikely)

Madara= Danzou (Very Unlikely)

Danzou = Obitos other sharingan (Possible)


Tobi= Madara (Extremely Likely)

Tobi= Madaras Clone (Possible)


Danzou= Grumpy old timer (Most Probable)




And....

Madara=Obito (Impossible)

Danzou=Obito (Impossible)

Tobi= Obito's Dead Body (Extrmeley Unlikely)

Danzou=Tobi= Madara (Quite Unlikely)

I <3 Feedback!


All my own speculation, but I hope it sets some people straight!!!



Peace Out:D



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lets just give up on the tobi madara danzou thing... kishi obviusly did this to screw with our minds and wants us to all die because of it.
 

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I just hope this happens there a chance we will see at least 10 fights I really hope so this might be the biggest epic of the series but I dont think the last
here a couple of fights that would happen & might
1. Danzou vs the 2 shinobi attacking
2. Kabutomaru vs Anko ?
3. Yamato, Naruto & Kakeshi vs A couple of roots
4. Kisame vs Killer Bee
5. Suigetsu vs Choujuurou (new swordsman) ?
6. Karin vs Tamari ?
7. Sasuke vs Raikage ?
8. Zetsu vs Tsuikage ?
9. Jirobi vs Gaara ?
10. Naruto vs Sasuke ?
these are just prediction I think maybe half of these fights would happen as you can see it looks like team hawk are going on a suicide mission if they hade more akatsuki they proberly have more chance
 
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i just wanted to point out that:

1. i was right about Danzo being an Uchiha.

2. he wants to keep naruto in the village

but still, why are people going around thinking that he is Obito?
we saw that he dies when we see Kakashi's story, and seriously, who could survive from being crushed by a huge boulder?

as well as the the tobi/mandara/danzo theory... i mean seriously, one man can't be everywhere at once, even as a clone, it would take too much time and energy to keep it up.

but i do have a prediction, i can actuelly see Sai betraying danzo and root to help Naruto. i don't know how exactly, but i just have a feeling..

i love how Naruto spoke about the 4th, and what kakashi said... i dunno it kinda says something, that something is going to happen soon.

what is happening with sasuke??? we know he's on his way to the Kage summit, and i kinda think that sakura will meet him near the location or he will run into Naruto... theres a conversation/conflict that won't bode well with the landscape.... somehow when Naruto gets into a battle, it always turns into a landscaping expedition.

this is getting a little confusing, you think something is gonna happen then the next chapter throws you completely off......
i just can't wait until the next chap.
 

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I totally agree with you! People seem to only "remember" what they want to around here and conveniently forget other parts of the manga... that is assuming that they have read all the chapters (which I doubt).

  1. Danzou. IS DANZOU. He isn't anyone else in disguise people. Damn. He is someone who challenged the 3rd for title of Hokage and failed. He is someone who organized ROOT to directly challege the ANBU and has been plotting with the likes of HANZO and OROCHIMARU and other types to attain the title of Hokage. That's his only goal (as of now). It will be interesting to learn how and from whom he got his transplanted eye. He is becoming a very interesting character indeed.
  2. Obito. IS DEAD. Let the boy rest in peace.
  3. Rin. My prediction is that Rin is still alive and probably became a recluse like Jaraiya because of Obito's death
  4. Naruto. Don't underestimate Naruto. Naruto's unique gift is his ability to win people over. All of Naruto's doubters now believe in him and even suggest that he should become Hokage. Neji, Gaara, Pain etc. have all been CONVERTED because of Naruto's unique way of persuasion. So please, when he says he's gonna talk to the Raikage... it is very POSSIBLE that the Raikage would eventually come to see what Naruto sees in Sasuke (cause, i don't even see it and I've read the entire manga at least 3 times).
  5. Kakashi. Anyone else find it interesting that Kakashi actually suggests that Naruto, Yamato and himself form a 3-man team to confront the Raikage? I mean, Kakashi must know that this decision will be in DIRECT OPPOSITION to what Hokage Danzou would want, but never the less he is going through with this plan. What is Kakashi really up to?
Very interesting manga this week!
i have to agreee with you and i love how you worded this.

as i have mtself stated earlier, the triangle that people are forming around danzo and mandara and tobi, is not completely fact, look back at the manga and you will see this theory has many flaws, as well as the obito theory.

so many idea's and no confirmation......
can't wait!!!!
 

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Kay, I know everyone's been arguing over the whole "Madara or Danzo is Obito" thing, so I'm erely going to add my thoughts to the discusion.

Let's say that Danzo is Obito. Info to help? Well, much like Madara, Danzo has only showed Sharingan in his right eye. But, unlike Madara, Danzo has showed that he doesn't have it in his left, while Madara does. So, Madara is out of the question. However, what got me thinking is that Danzo has the right side of this face and body damaged and bandaged. The same side that Obito was crushed on. A common fact running against this theory is that Danzo has a left eye. If he was Obito, he wouldn't have. Remember that he could have had an eye transplant done. Perhaps by Orochimaru? Oro couldn't have given him a fake sharingan. If he could, he would have made some for himself and he wouldn't have needed Sasuke. Also, since so much damage was done to his body Orochimaru wouldn't have wanted it. However, we all know that Danzo and Orochimaru had some sort of relationship. Maybe now that Oro is dead, Kabuto is the only one who can help him regeneratate his body. Finally, people are saying that Danzo is WAY to old to be Obito. I agree, but the damage done to Obito's body was servere. Sergury done by Orochimaru could have left access skin, making him look like an old fart. The reason Obito would be evil? No clue.
I can't believe people think that Obito is Danzo. They clearly stated in the manga many times that Danzo is one of the Elders. Obito is not an elder, he's from Kakashi generation of shinobi which died in one of their missions. I can't believe people is speculating the possibility they are the same person. Danzo may have some agreement with Orochimaru in regards to helping gain special abilities through medical transplant. In exchange, he'll help Orochimaru by giving him info about certain event and people of interest.
 

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Ok I've been reading this forum for a long time, after seeing Danzo with the Sharingan, I couldn't believe it. I had to get signed up.
I agree with others that Danzo's Sharingan could not have come from Obito or could be Obito in any form. Obito was too young and a bunch of other things too.

I think that Danzo got his Sharingan from Shisui Uchiha (Itachi's best friend). Itachi's best friend was mysteriously killed. Danzo was involved from the start. Itachi was on a secret mission, ordered by Danzo and the Konoha council to kill the Uchiha Clan.

Earlier (Pre-Shippuden days) Itachi was the prime suspect in Shisui's death. At this point why not think that Danzo was involved with the murder somehow with the revealing of the mysterious Sharingan? My guess (and it's just a guess like everyone else), I think Itachi both killed Shisui with Danzo's help. Danzo taking one eye for himself and Itachi taking the other eye. At the same time, activating his Mangekyo Sharingan. This could also lead to the 'unknown gift' Itachi gave to Naruto before he fought Sasuke.

Other things to consider, Danzo created ANBU and Itachi was under his commmand. Coincidently, before anyone could investigate the death of Shisui, Itachi killed the whole clan, possibly diverting any attention to Danzo. (Yes, I also know that Madara was involved too). The plot is getting REALLY think now.

When I think this series couldn't get any better it just does.
 
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One thing we all need to ask ourselves is if Danzo was really Tobi why would he be out to get the help of Oro. If he was Tobi he already had several S class missing nins as back up. I honestly think if Danzo was Tobi he could have just destroyed Konoha disguised as Tobi and when everything was in ruins he could come back as Danzo and save the day. One other thing is how is a man who was pwned by the 3rd hokage strong enough to control akatskui and make saskue, kakashi, and several others look like they aren't a threat? If it does play out that Tobi is Danzo by some cruel twist of fate then we will most likely see Root becoming the new akatskui. But all in all if you look at Tobi's and Danzo's goals they are almost similar. Both of them have starte their own little organizations of strong ninja's and both of them obviously have other hiddin agendas. My last thing is if This whole Tobi=Danzo thing is true then why is Danzo giving the order to have saskue killed and giving the cloud nin's all of konoha's information on akatskui, but mostly Danzo is trying to keep Naruto inside of the village so that the 9 tails isnt stolen from him.


I just remembered something. Oro left akatskui and he knew their secrets. so if danzo was tobi wouldn't he rather kill oro instead of enlisting his help to destroy konoha???
 
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just a thought:

every transplanted sharingan never turns off
-kakashi, danzou(i really dont think hes an uchiha or else he wouldve wiped out the clan himself)
-sasuke n itachi n every other uchiha we know had normal eyes

which leaves me to believe y tobi cant turn his off9or maybe he did , but i dont think so)

so if tobi is danzou-meaning he sent the kyuubi
he realizes that having 2 sharingan then EMS would be the solution for him to be able to rule everyone

so if tobi is not danzo-meaning tobi can turn his off n on
tobi knows danzo has a sharingan because he ordered the annihilation of the clan. Now he finds out danzo became hokage he send sasuke a true uchiha to kill any fake sharingan wannabes
 
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On the point of why Danzo has a sharingan. There are two reasons that come to mind everytime I hear theories about it. The obvious first reason is his lust for power. After Danzo lost to the Third he reallized that he would need to be stronger to become Hokage. Therefore he began covert operations. He created Root and began plotting a coupe. If everyone remembers he was one of the main supporters for destroying the uciha. Now the question is why did he want them destroyed? This brings me to my second thought. It occured to Danzo that having a sharingan could be very beneficial. Having a sharingan could allow Danzo the power to read movements and do genjustsu way better than he ever could and allow him to do one other thing. If Danzo had a sharingan then maybe just maybe he could find a way to control the 9 tails! Thinking it over and realizing that he had the potential to gain not only an Uciha bloodline but also the demon fox Danzo favored the destruction of the Uciha. After Itachi killed all of the clan and fled Danzo retrieved one of the eyes. He tried to transplant the eye much like kakashi did, but as he was doing it something went horribly wrong and the entire right side of his body went into some sort of shock. This is why he has the grey sharingan and is seeking out kabuto
 
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