So Madara is a idiot?

[foxyladyland]

madara wanted to make it look really believable and not suspicious and he knew his way was different than Hashi's.
He wanted to force the world in its entirety to obey his vision and force them into genjutsu.
He left the village like Sasuke did to get stronger than defeat his rival.. (itachi/Hashi) and gained non uchiha powers.
non uchiha powers ( kurama/ snake jutsu, drugs)

Madara engaged Hashi in a death match repeatedly to bring himself to the brink of the end of life..
(not sure if he intended to almost die, but it could have been part of his plan) since he wanted the Rinnegan.
He made believable that he wanted to destroy the Leaf so Hashi wouldn't suspect anything of a plan.

but those are just my thoughts. ^_^

 

[KingHashirama]

Apparently there are some on here who can't comprehend the thread and are believing that I'm calling Madara a idiot...

CLARIFICATION:

I stated the fans who are saying "He fought for the DNA" are basically calling Madara a idiot..

However since he isn't a idiot.. He didn't do it just for the DNA.

madara wanted to make it look really believable and not suspicious and he knew his way was different than Hashi's.
He wanted to force the world in its entirety to obey his vision and force them into genjutsu.
He left the village like Sasuke did to get stronger than defeat his rival.. (itachi/Hashi) and gained non uchiha powers.
non uchiha powers ( kurama/ snake jutsu, drugs)

Madara engaged Hashi in a death match repeatedly to bring himself to the brink of the end of life..
(not sure if he intended to almost die, but it could have been part of his plan) since he wanted the Rinnegan.
He made believable that he wanted to destroy the Leaf so Hashi wouldn't suspect anything of a plan.

but those are just my thoughts. ^_^

So your saying Madara the guy who was b*tching and moaning about not being able to become Hokage and that they would have to stay down to the Senju if he stayed in the village.. would purposely loose for simple dna?


Now lets recap this. Madara when he left wasn't a threat to the village. He was a simple Exile. So meaning he could've gotten Hashirama's dna then and could've done his plan without anyone knowing.

 

[Lightbringer]

lol . i swear the starting in the post was so confusing.



Clearly you don't know how politics or normal groups work....

Hashirama's decision to keep Madara alive lead to the peace between the Uchiha clan and the Senju. Killing Hashirama.. A guy who was feared by ALL. The guy who kept countries in check..... The guy who had tailed beasts as pets.. I'm pretty Sure noone would've been able to stop him. And also, are you stating that the village would be able to find Madara? that Madara couldn't have gone to a another country and hid? lol. The same Senju forces and the same Tobirama that feared Hashirama....

And who said he didn't die from disease? Who said he died in battle? Goku was wearing his normal fighting attire when he was hit by the disease in middle of a fight..

firstly Naruto is fiction. You're comparing a real-life organization to a manga.

and I'm pretty sure I know how politics work considering that one of my closest friends majored in it.



you're really just not keen on thinking outside the box. Hashirama was a sealing expert. From what we know, EMS Madara had little experience with it.

for the juubi to be resurrected, he needed all 9 bijuu. His sharingan would not let him control 9 different bijuu.

So what is the best way to have them all subdued? Use the kyuubi to demonstrate its power and battle Hashirama in order for him to then go off and seal the rest of the bijuu for the sake of preserving peace.


and it would be pretty ironic for the greatest Medical Expert in the history of NV to suddenly die from disease.

that would be a complete fail on his part

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

I believe Madara had done it to fake his death and cultivate enough DNA to create multiple full body Zetsu clones.

 

[Bogard]

Apparently there are some on here who can't comprehend the thread and are believing that I'm calling Madara a idiot...

CLARIFICATION:

I stated the fans who are saying "He fought for the DNA" are basically calling Madara a idiot..

However since he isn't a idiot.. He didn't do it just for the DNA.

States he doesn't call Madara an idiot. Title asks if Madara is an idiot. I start to wonder if the idiot here is not thread maker

 

[Lightbringer]

States he doesn't call Madara an idiot. Title asks if Madara is an idiot. I start to wonder if the idiot here is not thread maker

just look at my sig lol

 

[KingHashirama]

States he doesn't call Madara an idiot. Title asks if Madara is an idiot. I start to wonder if the idiot here is not thread maker

"To the fans who keep repeating " He only fought for the DNA".. So Madara is a idiot?"- I suggest reading the OP before tryna be a smartass cool? alrighty.

firstly Naruto is fiction. You're comparing a real-life organization to a manga.
and I'm pretty sure I know how politics work considering that one of my closest friends majored in it.
you're really just not keen on thinking outside the box. Hashirama was a sealing expert. From what we know, EMS Madara had little experience with it.
for the juubi to be resurrected, he needed all 9 bijuu. His sharingan would not let him control 9 different bijuu.
So what is the best way to have them all subdued? Use the kyuubi to demonstrate its power and battle Hashirama in order for him to then go off and seal the rest of the bijuu for the sake of preserving peace.

1. Naruto is based off of real life.. it is showing how the spread out countries can become one and create peace. Naruto relates to real life.. sorry you didn't realize that.

2. You have a close friend in politics gives your automatic knowledge on politics? never knew.. cause my closest friend is a gamer.. and i know very little about gaming.

3. Your post kinda demonstrated that you don't know about politics and people work. If U.S and Iraq are having peace negotiations, and the Iraqi leader comes to challenge the Americans in a fight because they killed his loyal Iraqi brother. And then the american completely shoot him , while it was the american who sent the peace treaty to Iraq.... tell me how is killing the Iraqi leader peaceful? UNDERSTANDING is the key to co-operating. And since you kind showed that you didn't get Hashirama's purpose of demonstrating the point of "UNDERSTANDING".. it simply showed me you don't know how politics work.

4. Hashirama was a sealing expert... true.. Madara had the rinnegan and the info on the Juubi...He is the one who told Obito how to do the things with the Gedo..Sooo yea.

5. Preserving PEACE? Do you know what PEACE is? Are you bluntly saying that cause Madara stated that?

6. Who sealed the Tailed beasts? Akatsuki. Nowhere in Madara's plan were the Akatsuki.... that was all Obito. Oh and not to mention Madara could've gotten Hashirama's dna when he left the village ... you know the time where he was only a exile .. not a threat to the village. He could've hidden underground and gotten started on his plan.

 

[foxyladyland]

Apparently there are some on here who can't comprehend the thread and are believing that I'm calling Madara a idiot...

CLARIFICATION:

I stated the fans who are saying "He fought for the DNA" are basically calling Madara a idiot..

However since he isn't a idiot.. He didn't do it just for the DNA.



So your saying Madara the guy who was b*tching and moaning about not being able to become Hokage and that they would have to stay down to the Senju if he stayed in the village.. would purposely loose for simple dna?


Now lets recap this. Madara when he left wasn't a threat to the village. He was a simple Exile. So meaning he could've gotten Hashirama's dna then and could've done his plan without anyone knowing.

Hashirama's the Person he is OBSESSED with so to Hashirama (the strongest SENJU) ofcourse..
he knew Hashirama was the one who could push him to the brink of death..
LOSING to ANYONE ELSE WOULD BE UNCIVILIZED. He was called STRONGEST shinobi & a GOD. They were rivals.
Also Madara wanted to do it for Izuna as an attempt to see if he could have gotten strong enough to protect his little brother.
Aside from that, Madara had become in love with fighting possibly. Im sure he wanted to fight Hashirama..
and everyone else considered Enemy for Izuna. So he could awaken the powers the current Edo Madara has and then some.

 

[Dark Artist]

Can't be worse than Hashirama about to kill himself for Madara

and also trying to make Madara hokage

and also not killing Madara.



and if Madara killed Hashirama, then the whole village would be after him and he wouldn't be able to formulate his plan in secret

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Hashirama Wankers Keep Avoiding this Proof from the Manga

that he Doesn't has Kill intention , Because he Wants his DNA thats Why There is Zetsu

Believe it or not till this day No one Give me a Logical Counter to this one

 

[Lightbringer]

"To the fans who keep repeating " He only fought for the DNA".. So Madara is a idiot?"- I suggest reading the OP before tryna be a smartass cool? alrighty.



1. Naruto is based off of real life.. it is showing how the spread out countries can become one and create peace. Naruto relates to real life.. sorry you didn't realize that.

2. You have a close friend in politics gives your automatic knowledge on politics? never knew.. cause my closest friend is a gamer.. and i know very little about gaming.

3. Your post kinda demonstrated that you don't know about politics and people work. If U.S and Iraq are having peace negotiations, and the Iraqi leader comes to challenge the Americans in a fight because they killed his loyal Iraqi brother. And then the american completely shoot him , while it was the american who sent the peace treaty to Iraq.... tell me how is killing the Iraqi leader peaceful? UNDERSTANDING is the key to co-operating. And since you kind showed that you didn't get Hashirama's purpose of demonstrating the point of "UNDERSTANDING".. it simply showed me you don't know how politics work.

4. Hashirama was a sealing expert... true.. Madara had the rinnegan and the info on the Juubi...He is the one who told Obito how to do the things with the Gedo..Sooo yea.

5. Preserving PEACE? Do you know what PEACE is? Are you bluntly saying that cause Madara stated that?

6. Who sealed the Tailed beasts? Akatsuki. Nowhere in Madara's plan were the Akatsuki.... that was all Obito. Oh and not to mention Madara could've gotten Hashirama's dna when he left the village ... you know the time where he was only a exile .. not a threat to the village. He could've hidden underground and gotten started on his plan.

1. OH MY GOD, I wonder why no one has ever thought of that in real life.

2. I guess you and your friend don't talk much then. Because me and friend pretty talk about everything ranging from politics, religion, philosophy, gaming, movies, music, current events, school, work, etc, etc. I also knew him for more than 10 years, so we have a lot to talk about and share.

3. So what you're saying is that we should let tyrannical leaders live then? Just because someone is the leader of a country/village doesn't mean that their subjects respect them. The Uchiha abandoned Madara for that reason. hurdur

You won't find anyone shedding a tear for Stalin if he were murdered back in Russia


4. Besides, Madara explicitly says Hashirama DNA, not just senju. Hashirama is the embodiment of the younger son, so it can't just be any dead Senju's DNA. Acquiring this DNA most likely requires an unknown portion of blood

5. you literally cannot grasp what I'm saying

 

[neilson]

Lol! Lmao nice thread.,made madra into a comic.hahaha

 

[KingHashirama]

Hashirama's the Person he is OBSESSED with so to Hashirama (the strongest SENJU) ofcourse..
he knew Hashirama was the one who could push him to the brink of death..
LOSING to ANYONE ELSE WOULD BE UNCIVILIZED. He was called STRONGEST shinobi & a GOD. They were rivals.
Also Madara wanted to do it for Izuna as an attempt to see if he could have gotten strong enough to protect his little brother.
Aside from that, Madara had become in love with fighting possibly. Im sure he wanted to fight Hashirama..
and everyone else considered Enemy for Izuna. So he could awaken the powers the current Edo Madara has and then some.

Yet purposely loosing to your rival is civilized?

o-o I'm hella lost by the last part of your post lol

1. OH MY GOD, I wonder why no one has ever thought of that in real life.
2. I guess you and your friend don't talk much then. Because me and friend pretty talk about everything ranging from politics, religion, philosophy, gaming, movies, music, current events, school, work, etc, etc. I also knew him for more than 10 years, so we have a lot to talk about and share.
3. So what you're saying is that we should let tyrannical leaders live then? Just because someone is the leader of a country/village doesn't mean that their subjects respect them. The Uchiha abandoned Madara for that reason. hurdur
You won't find anyone shedding a tear for Stalin if he were murdered back in Russia
4. Besides, Madara explicitly says Hashirama DNA, not just senju. Hashirama is the embodiment of the younger son, so it can't just be any dead Senju's DNA. Acquiring this DNA most likely requires an unknown portion of blood
5. you literally cannot grasp what I'm saying

1. wtf...

2. No i'm just not interested in games.. lmao. Just cause we don't talk about games.. doesn't mean we don't talk.. lmao.

3. Again where is your logic here. MADARA WAS RESPECTED..... The Uchiha abandoned Madara AFTER the creation of the village.. god damn it dude freaking atleast pat attention to the god damn storyline, before riding MAdara's d*ck. And also didn't we let Stalin live? lmao. Yet you completely ignored the people who actually had respect for stalin in australia.. I mean hey people even respected Hitler.... Some even do till this say.

4. Hashirama is not the sole embodiment of the younger son.. wth is wrong with you....All the senju are embodiment of the younger son.. So your telling me that Orochimaru who wasn't even alive then.... got Hashirama's dna.. but Madara couldn't without fighting? lmao.

5. Cause what your saying is completely not making any sense.... He needed something to conceal himself.. then he shouldn't have ever cameback. I didn't see Madara going "It was apart of my plan to get my self on brink of death" to Obito.. Instead he stated he escaped DEATH.

I mean your probably the naive guy who still believes Obito was the creator of Akatsuki .... am right?

 

[Lightbringer]

Yet purposely loosing to your rival is civilized?

o-o I'm hella lost by the last part of your post lol



1. wtf...

2. No i'm just not interested in games.. lmao. Just cause we don't talk about games.. doesn't mean we don't talk.. lmao.

3. Again where is your logic here. MADARA WAS RESPECTED..... The Uchiha abandoned Madara AFTER the creation of the village.. god damn it dude freaking atleast pat attention to the god damn storyline, before riding MAdara's d*ck. And also didn't we let Stalin live? lmao. Yet you completely ignored the people who actually had respect for stalin in australia.. I mean hey people even respected Hitler.... Some even do till this say.

4. Hashirama is not the sole embodiment of the younger son.. wth is wrong with you....All the senju are embodiment of the younger son.. So your telling me that Orochimaru who wasn't even alive then.... got Hashirama's dna.. but Madara couldn't without fighting? lmao.

5. Cause what your saying is completely not making any sense.... He needed something to conceal himself.. then he shouldn't have ever cameback. I didn't see Madara going "It was apart of my plan to get my self on brink of death" to Obito.. Instead he stated he escaped DEATH.

I mean your probably the naive guy who still believes Obito was the creator of Akatsuki .... am right?

So many things are wrong with this comment


you are officially and undeniably an idiot


I hope everyone else has a laugh from this cause I sure did lol

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Yet purposely loosing to your rival is civilized?

o-o I'm hella lost by the last part of your post lol



1. wtf...

2. No i'm just not interested in games.. lmao. Just cause we don't talk about games.. doesn't mean we don't talk.. lmao.

3. Again where is your logic here. MADARA WAS RESPECTED..... The Uchiha abandoned Madara AFTER the creation of the village.. god damn it dude freaking atleast pat attention to the god damn storyline, before riding MAdara's d*ck. And also didn't we let Stalin live? lmao. Yet you completely ignored the people who actually had respect for stalin in australia I mean hey people even respected Hitler.... Some even do till this say.

4. Hashirama is not the sole embodiment of the younger son.. wth is wrong with you....All the senju are embodiment of the younger son.. So your telling me that Orochimaru who wasn't even alive then.... got Hashirama's dna.. but Madara couldn't without fighting? lmao.

5. Cause what your saying is completely not making any sense.... He needed something to conceal himself.. then he shouldn't have ever cameback. I didn't see Madara going "It was apart of my plan to get my self on brink of death" to Obito.. Instead he stated he escaped DEATH.

I mean your probably the naive guy who still believes Obito was the creator of Akatsuki .... am right?

OH my fukin.... what the hell?? LOOOOOOL *dies* :leaf:

 

[Lightbringer]

OH my fukin.... what the hell?? LOOOOOOL *dies* :leaf:

I don't think it's possible to rationalize his logic lol