Jiraiya could have killed Pein

[Crutch Kaguya]

If all of the Peins were present during the time he used his most powerful genjutsu, he could have easily killed Pain.

 

[Deidara...]

pein would never do something that stupid his bodies all fight at different ranges and one of them is a genjutsu specialist so that one would not be affected as majorly and all his bodies were present the one that was missing was the one in the trash can of doom aka the real body and uve seen it why would he go fight in that

 

[Scorpio0Pharaoh0Titan]

Pein said it himself "If jiraiya had prior knowledge to my six paths he would defeat me"

so yes ... he could have defeated pein.

 

[Steinbiz]

well, the hell realm was the body that revived the 3 bodies after dying to that genjutsu. so if pein through hell realm in the fight at the beginning, yes jiraiya would have won.

 

[Koo]

Pein said it himself "If jiraiya had prior knowledge to my six paths he would defeat me"

so yes ... he could have defeated pein.

yes and the same works in reverse for naruto

if naruto wasnt told about peins powers i HIGHLY doubt he would have beaten pain. even if he could have beaten peins bodys nagato would just go find 6 more bodys and all he woulkd lose is yakio thats about it....

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

Pein said it himself "If jiraiya had prior knowledge to my six paths he would defeat me"

so yes ... he could have defeated pein.

When did pain say that I don;t remember that. But I still think if he could have defeated pain it would have been a very slim chance even if he knew from the start about Nagato.

 

[fmcande]

yes and the same works in reverse for naruto

if naruto wasnt told about peins powers i HIGHLY doubt he would have beaten pain. even if he could have beaten peins bodys nagato would just go find 6 more bodys and all he woulkd lose is yakio thats about it....

i agree
even if it was not in the manga or not ...pein never lost to anybody cuz no one knew were the real pein was... jiraya die...but because of him naruto was able to win against pein cuz he left the clue s if not naruto would never ever win against pein

jiraya would do the same thing to pein that naruto did i don't see no difference

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

Naruto didnt beat Pein. Well a 30% Pein and then forced him to do suicidal Rinne Tensei.


And yes about Jiraya, but it's only an IF.

He had to use that Genjustu, because he saw no other way of countering Pein.
If he did know about Pein's secret, how would he use Genjutsu on all the 6 bodies, if he was already losing to three?

 

[fmcande]

Naruto didnt beat Pein. Well a 30% Pein and then forced him to do suicidal Rinne Tensei.


And yes about Jiraya, but it's only an IF.

He had to use that Genjustu, because he saw no other way of countering Pein.
If he did know about Pein's secret, how would he use Genjutsu on all the 6 bodies, if he was already losing to three?

naruto did not kill pein cuz he did not wanna to ...and thats why i hated the end of the arc ...it should end it with a F rasengan

 

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

naruto did not kill pein cuz he did not wanna to ...and thats why i hated the end of the arc ...it should end it with a F rasengan

You think Naruto would have the strenght to create a Rasengan, and Nagato wouldnt have the jutsu to repel/stop it?

Just look how Naruto collapsed after he walked away from Pein's hideout.
And Nagato still had the power to perform a very powerful jutsu. What makes you think he couldn't have stopped a single rasengan?

Also, even if Naruto killed Pein, that would only mean that he's capable of defeating Pein who was coughing out blood, foight several jonins (kakashi included) used shinra tensei and had a disabled god realm for a while.

 

[Deidara...]

You think Naruto would have the strenght to create a Rasengan, and Nagato wouldnt have the jutsu to repel/stop it?

Just look how Naruto collapsed after he walked away from Pein's hideout.
And Nagato still had the power to perform a very powerful jutsu. What makes you think he couldn't have stopped a single rasengan?

Also, even if Naruto killed Pein, that would only mean that he's capable of defeating Pein who was coughing out blood, foight several jonins (kakashi included) used shinra tensei and had a disabled god realm for a while.

agreed if they fought again in the hideout and konan helped naruto would be a goner