[Predictions] Naruto Manga 455 Predictions / 454 Discussion

[nirav_92]

SPOILERS ARE OUT @@@@@@@@ at narutoverse

Original script:

ナルト、アオタン出来るくらいフルボッコ。
サイ止める。
オモイ、ナルトほめる
秘書登場

ナルト、雷影に会うと言いだす。
ヤマトは止める。
カカシは止めない。

ダンゾウ五影会談に迎う途中で、どっかの忍に襲われる

右目、しゃりんがん。


English script:

Naruto is still being punched.
Sai comes out and stops them.
Omoi admires Naruto.
Secretary appears.

Naruto, Raikage asks you to see him
Yamato says no.
However, Kakashi insists Naruto should go.
Danzou is being attacked on his way to summit. His right eye is sharingan.




LMAO
DANzoU WITH SHARINGAN @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

 

[nirav_92]

so i guess its still gonna be 3-4 manga's till we see some real action !
rest is gonna be just informative.......
but dazou with sharingan is gonna be a huggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee puzzle

can he be tobi/madara
can he be madara's brother
can he be obito ?

cant stop thinking of the possibilities.....

so in otherwords.......
THE UCHIHA WIPED OUT ITSELF !!!!!!
SO our GAY BOY cant blame ne1 else !!!!!!! but his own freaking clan !!!!

 

[Scorps]

so i guess its still gonna be 3-4 manga's till we see some real action !
rest is gonna be just informative.......
but dazou with sharingan is gonna be a huggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee puzzle

can he be tobi/madara
can he be madara's brother
can he be obito ?

cant stop thinking of the possibilities.....

so in otherwords.......
THE UCHIHA WIPED OUT ITSELF !!!!!!
SO our GAY BOY cant blame ne1 else !!!!!!! but his own freaking clan !!!!

Danzou not old enough to be obito and has two eyes. Problably he stole the left eye of Obito or some other Uchiha.

Can't be tobi cause they both have the sharingan on the right side.

Can't be madaras brother cause he has a sharingan an a normal eye. If he was Madaras brother, in the best of chances he would have a sharingan and a empty eye socket. Just have to wait and see.

Madara I'm 99.99999% sure that he knows about danzou.

 

[nastradacha]

hum...It doesn't give the user immortality.... It gave Madara some sort of immortality...but like the mangeykou it is possible that the powers resulting from the eternal form differ from user to user. Being the sum of both mangeykou it's possible that it's resulting unique power is directly related to the ones both original owners had. (imagine brother with power to control wind and water + brother with power to control lightning and fire = eternal mangekyou capable of controlling Weather and such (I know dumb example but it's simpler this way))


But there is also another thing to consider... Mangeykou users are capable of controlling tailed beasts (since they are capable of controlling chakra and tailed beasts are basically huge amonts of chakra). Not only the ones with the eternal mangeykou. But if so...why does madara need akatsuki to controll and capture the beasts? Problably his immortality isn't "complete" or the use of his eternal mangeykou for that purpose left him incapable of using it again. Either way, it hasn't shown its true powers but by the looks of it it has even more drawbacks than the "normal" mangyekou. So I don't think it's that powerfull. Attack power in naruto world comes with great drawbacks. Huge. So the strongest would be the one that provides a high (not the highest) attack/defence with the "non-fatal" drawbacks. As sasuke noted, a skilled high level trained sharingan user can be even more powerfull than a mangekyou user. . .

only my opinion...

i think what itachi meant by saying madara is a proection of his formal self is that, when madara used the enternal mangyekou, it took his body into an alternate dimesion and all that is physical in this world are is eyes, that explains his imortality,also i think he has the ability to absorb and body he wants, so he probablyh absorbed tobi,danzo and the mizukage, that explains the eye thats always covered.

madara probably had his eyes distroyed in one of the battles he had been in and he cant bring back his true self without his other eye .
i notice he said somthing abt moon eye then next chapter danzo said somthing abt kabuto and oro.

 

[SageD]

Well, I think that the next element should be Earth but no one really knows. What blood line abilites? Naruto so far doesn't have any. LOL

Does anyone else think that naruto will learn his fathers other abillities? I do. Teleport and such.

Naruto's mom will show up again...but don't think that she is the mizukage. She should be around 35 years old (21 years at the time of narutos birth) so she can be almost anyone. Mizukage can be the naruto's sister for example. . .


Tobi IS Madara's current form on Earth. I think that the Madara/Tobi that we see isn't a real one but a projection of a former self. And he needs the power of the 9 beasts to become "whole". because if he is the only one with the eternal mageyonkou sharingan so he wouldn't have any problems fighting anyone in the Naruto universe. If he has to come up with theese schemes it's because he lacks the power. I think that in a near future we will see how was the battle between the 4th and Madara and better understand the whole deal. In 100 mangas or such. LOL Also...didn't you at anytime considered strange that the eye Tobi has hidden is the same that kakashi has his sharingan? Don't remember ever seing both of tobis eyes. Madara could have possessed Obito's dying body for himself. . .Or used it to have a physical form on this side as he is probably not in this world...

As for the whole Byakugan Vs Sharingan Vs Rinnegan deal.... They are all diferent.

Byakugan can be call the "Truth eye" as it can see through intentions. One can call it also the "Live eye" as it can see the true life energy in a body: chakra. It should be the best aid in a medical ninja for example. Also, don't forget that Byakugan is more of a passive/defensive/support kind of bloodline eye. It alows the user to see throught any physical thing, intention, to control his chakra with a precision that no one else can and to have a type of 6th sense given by the (almost) 360? visual angle. Also it doesn't need much chakra to use and doesn't put any type of consequences to the user. Its the most usefull for support and defense.

Sharingan can be called the "Intuition Eye" as it can "predict" jutsu and the use of chakra to perform them. It gives the user the inate ability to understand every jutsu and to copy it. It however doesn't give the user the ability to perform any jutsu as that is dependent on the users own abilities. It can give a type of "intuition" alowing the user to have a perfect aim, perfect timing, etc. It also allows the user to use advance genjutsu and ninjutsu (especialy fire ones). It uses up greats amonts of chakra and can carry great stress to the user. If mangeykou it can take away the users eye sight and has a higher chakra need, but gives in return the ability to control certain unique abilities. All of theese pose great treat to the user and have great consequences. Also the whole "sharingan" deal is based on agression (fighting makes it stronger by learning knew moves/jutsus in battle, killing ones best friend gains another level and taking your brothers eyes gives you the maximum level) so I rate it as a "attack eye" with great consequences to the user. It's very useful in direct combat but useless in support.

The rinnegan is the (supposedly) strongest of all as it can controll live and death and all jutsu and forms of chakra. However as shown with Nagato, it seems to have a great connection with the other world and a type of "deal" with the "gods", giving ones live in return to having such power. It consumes a great among of chakra and poses great treath to the user. Its the stronger but also the one that has the greater amont of negative consequences on the user. It was supposedly the rinnegan that created jutsu and the ninja world. It is a type of "god eye". Capable of great feats....but only once or twice.


I don't think that they can be compared in battle. Nor one or the other is weaker. The Strongest in coombat is also the one that kills the user fastest...

Next 3 or 4 mangas will be stringly information and no action.

I still have a small hope that tsunade wakes up. And also that sakura learns anything new. She's the weakest one again. It would be nice if sakura learnt genjutsu or chakra storing like the 5th.


Greets...

That was a great breakdown of the difference between byukagan and sharinagan

 

[SageD]

My point is still missing here.
I asked that should not neji be a a rank jounin and important ninja from hyuga clan.
He should be...............................................


:akatsuki:

yea he should I belevie comapred to the ninja in the village there are probaly a hand full that are stronger tha neji.

 

[SageD]

so i guess its still gonna be 3-4 manga's till we see some real action !
rest is gonna be just informative.......
but dazou with sharingan is gonna be a huggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee puzzle

can he be tobi/madara
can he be madara's brother
can he be obito ?

cant stop thinking of the possibilities.....

so in otherwords.......
THE UCHIHA WIPED OUT ITSELF !!!!!!
SO our GAY BOY cant blame ne1 else !!!!!!! but his own freaking clan !!!!

yea that is also what is beleive myslef but the manga is getting intrestinf with danzou having the sharingan.

 

[Scorps]

That was a great breakdown of the difference between byukagan and sharinagan

Tks, just trying to help...

 

[SageD]

Tks, just trying to help...

your welcome hey did you see the spoilers that are out man now Danzou has the sharingan.

 

[guitarmeyt]

When is the release of manga. ? the next next episodes?

 

[wahmad4u]

When is the release of manga. ? the next next episodes?

The manga will release on this friday and shipuden animated will be released on thursday







:akatsuki:

 

[naturo9]

maybe danzo got his sharingan from someone like kakashi. he killed one of the uchiha and implanted it to him.

 

[javane]

maybe danzo got his sharingan from someone like kakashi. he killed one of the uchiha and implanted it to him.

or he is the real body madara

 

[mcspaddin]

i dont think danzou is real madara why would he need to work with such secrecy and be hidden
within konoha like he is??...
then again it does explain his obsession with controlling konoha and his constant bickering with the third

it is still unlikey that he is madara, i think that he has connections to madara and to oro as danzou himself is trying to become immortal. by needing help with his right eye it could be because of the consequences sharingan has and he needs kabu/oro to try and fix it. which brings up the fact that more than likely he wants sasuke dead so he can take a new sharingan or use sasukes to heal his own

 

[Itachi Sama]

hum...It doesn't give the user immortality.... It gave Madara some sort of immortality...but like the mangeykou it is possible that the powers resulting from the eternal form differ from user to user. Being the sum of both mangeykou it's possible that it's resulting unique power is directly related to the ones both original owners had. (imagine brother with power to control wind and water + brother with power to control lightning and fire = eternal mangekyou capable of controlling Weather and such (I know dumb example but it's simpler this way))


But there is also another thing to consider... Mangeykou users are capable of controlling tailed beasts (since they are capable of controlling chakra and tailed beasts are basically huge amonts of chakra). Not only the ones with the eternal mangeykou. But if so...why does madara need akatsuki to controll and capture the beasts? Problably his immortality isn't "complete" or the use of his eternal mangeykou for that purpose left him incapable of using it again. Either way, it hasn't shown its true powers but by the looks of it it has even more drawbacks than the "normal" mangyekou. So I don't think it's that powerfull. Attack power in naruto world comes with great drawbacks. Huge. So the strongest would be the one that provides a high (not the highest) attack/defence with the "non-fatal" drawbacks. As sasuke noted, a skilled high level trained sharingan user can be even more powerfull than a mangekyou user. . .

only my opinion...

With all do respect, that makes no sense. How could you have "some sort of immortality"? Either you are immortal or not. Tobi/Madara is over 80 years old and has the look and stamina as when he was 18. If he were not immortal, he would not have survived the duel with Shoodaime when the latter left him for dead after stabbing him with a sword.

 

[Transparent]

i think what itachi meant by saying madara is a proection of his formal self is that, when madara used the enternal mangyekou, it took his body into an alternate dimesion and all that is physical in this world are is eyes, that explains his imortality,also i think he has the ability to absorb and body he wants, so he probablyh absorbed tobi,danzo and the mizukage, that explains the eye thats always covered.

madara probably had his eyes distroyed in one of the battles he had been in and he cant bring back his true self without his other eye .
i notice he said somthing abt moon eye then next chapter danzo said somthing abt kabuto and oro.

yes that is true.. but i do not think that obito has anything to do with Tobi. It's seemingly, cosidering Tobi's behaviours and personality and clumsyness that he might be obsessed with Obito. Like shown here:

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Tobi is showing Kisame that he (Uchiha Madara) has taken over the body of Mizukage from the hidden village of Rain. He was once the Mizukage of Kirigakure, although it is unknown when. The current Mizukage is now this bitch:

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This is also proved in the previous page where he sais to Kisame "I'm sorry for decieving you for so long, especially since you were closest to him."

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Therefore we know that Madara can obsess himself in other bodies of some sort It is most likely some sharingan/chakra wise way. Like he controlled the tailed beast with, or how Pein controlled his bodies, or how orochimaru is within Kabuto and how he was inside of Sasuke, planning to take over his body when he was at his limit.

The fact that danzou now apparently has the sharingan on the same eye that we know Tobi has the sharingan MIGHT also be because of Madara taking over Danzou aswell.. though that sounds very unlikely. i mean controlling two bodies at once.. sounds to me unlikely. More likely is the fact that danzou took the remaining sharingan from the corpse of Obito (cuz we know nothing of what happened to him after) concidering he has the right eye, and kakashi has the left, it matches.

What do u think? :hypertobi:

 

[Scorps]

yes that is true.. but i do not think that obito has anything to do with Tobi. It's seemingly, cosidering Tobi's behaviours and personality and clumsyness that he might be obsessed with Obito. Like shown here:
Tobi is showing Kisame that he (Uchiha Madara) has taken over the body of Mizukage from the hidden village of Rain. He was once the Mizukage of Kirigakure, although it is unknown when. The current Mizukage is now this bitch:
This is also proved in the previous page where he sais to Kisame "I'm sorry for decieving you for so long, especially since you were closest to him."
Therefore we know that Madara can obsess himself in other bodies of some sort It is most likely some sharingan/chakra wise way. Like he controlled the tailed beast with, or how Pein controlled his bodies, or how orochimaru is within Kabuto and how he was inside of Sasuke, planning to take over his body when he was at his limit.

The fact that danzou now apparently has the sharingan on the same eye that we know Tobi has the sharingan MIGHT also be because of Madara taking over Danzou aswell.. though that sounds very unlikely. i mean controlling two bodies at once.. sounds to me unlikely. More likely is the fact that danzou took the remaining sharingan from the corpse of Obito (cuz we know nothing of what happened to him after) concidering he has the right eye, and kakashi has the left, it matches.

What do u think? :hypertobi:

"some sort of immortality" because for example....if he is a spirit (or a projection from another dimension of himself) can that be called life? No. If he has no body (wich we don't know) then maybe he is nor living nor dead. Sooo...Immortality is the inability to die or the ability to live forever? Because one is different from the other... He didn't die that's for sure...but is he alive?

As for the fact that he possesses someone....Sorry but aren't you all a little to much obcessed with obito? He can't be the mizukage or danzou...Danzou is a bastard...but one in his one valor...problably being the subject of orochimarus experiments with a sharingan eye...And the mizukage...Madara WAS the mizukage...he isn't the mizukage right now...

 

[Scorps]

your welcome hey did you see the spoilers that are out man now Danzou has the sharingan.

My humble opinion is that he was a subject (voluntarily) in orochimarus experiments and was crafted with a sharingan eye but I don't think it went very well...that's why he hasn't used his power yet...and that's why he's afraid of kabuto knowing about his relation to orochimaru and his years passed in konoha experimenting....

 

[Hallow]

Danzo couldn't have took an eye from the uchihas killed by Itachi cuz on the flashback of Pain's story it showed him with one eye already that was way before the night of the masacre

 

[Transparent]

Danzo couldn't have took an eye from the uchihas killed by Itachi cuz on the flashback of Pain's story it showed him with one eye already that was way before the night of the masacre

yes, the part about danzou having only one eye before the massacre, makes it all more equivalent that the sharingan of danzou comes from another uchiha a long time ago, perhaps 20 years ago when kakashi was a kid. That is probably also the reason for the Kakashi Gaiden releasing that's coming on the 30th of July when the Danzou theme is hot.
Because Obito pretty much is the only Uchiha we know of who died at that time and could've gotten his eye removed. According to the facts that we know this sounds most apparent to me..

what do you think? :kakashi: