Why are some people claiming Obito to be above the Sage of the Six Paths?

[Sherlock.]

He is currently the second strongest NV Character after SO6P and soon will be third strongest after Naruto becomes No.1.... =D =D

 

[Sacrosanct]

There's no proof that the sage has intel on Kamui, after all the sharingan is most likely an evolution of the Rinnegan.

And if you've read and understood the manga, then you should know fairly well why old man Madara didn't take Obito's eye U_U

Yes, but there is no proof that he doesn't; the absence of evidence =/= the evidence of absence, so my claim is just as valid as yours.

I'm referring to when he landed flat on his back on top of the Juubi's head last chapter. Obviously, to Madara, seeing as he took absolutely no interest in the eye even after witnessing its abilities, Kamui isn't "all that". Madara's actions implicate that Kamui isn't much to him and that even he (with knowledge not comparable to that of the Sage) would be able to work around it.

To put Kamui past the Sage is ridiculous; it's like saying kotoamatsukami would take down Edo Madara or current Obito no problem.

Kamui/Senju DNA (Mokuton) makes up for the incomplete juubi

Laughable. You do realize that the Sage was described as the Uchiha and Senju in one, right? And that his Younger Son, who inherited his body, was practically radiating with power?

 

[Edinburgh]

Yes, but there is no proof that he doesn't; the absence of evidence =/= the evidence of absence, so my claim is just as valid as yours.

I'm referring to when he landed flat on his back on top of the Juubi's head last chapter. Obviously, to Madara, seeing as he took absolutely no interest in the eye even after witnessing its abilities, Kamui isn't "all that". Madara's actions implicate that Kamui isn't much to him and that even he (with knowledge not comparable to that of the Sage) would be able to work around it.

To put Kamui past the Sage is ridiculous; it's like saying kotoamatsukami would take down Edo Madara or current Obito no problem.

I tend to agree with you, but, Kotoamatsukami does one-shot.

 

[Sacrosanct]

I tend to agree with you, but, Kotoamatsukami does one-shot.

Yeah, I suppose that wasn't the best example...

But Obito simply can't touch the Sage.

 

[~Puppet Master~]

1. Yes, but there is no proof that he doesn't; the absence of evidence =/= the evidence of absence, so my claim is just as valid as yours.

2. I'm referring to when he landed flat on his back on top of the Juubi's head last chapter. Obviously, to Madara, seeing as he took absolutely no interest in the eye even after witnessing its abilities, Kamui isn't "all that". Madara's actions implicate that Kamui isn't much to him and that even he (with knowledge not comparable to that of the Sage) would be able to work around it.

3. To put Kamui past the Sage is ridiculous; it's like saying kotoamatsukami would take down Edo Madara or current Obito no problem.

1. Actually, if you can't find proof that the sage has intel on Kamui, the answer is that he doesn't, it's that simple.

2. Madara's plan is to become the Juubi's Jinchuuriki and cast Infinite Tsukuyomi on the moon, stealing Obito's eye at this point would be a completely pointless action, and it would be bad writing on Kishi's part.

In fact, do you think he would steal Obito's eye and implant it on the middle of the battlefield? Pulling out his own eye would make it regenerate, and he won't even need it when the Tsuki no Me project is complete.

3. Kamui makes the user intangible, and you're saying that the sage is so powerful, he just transcends space and time? That's a pretty bold claim ...

 

[Sacrosanct]

1. Actually, if you can't find proof that the sage has intel on Kamui, the answer is that he doesn't, it's that simple.

2. Madara's plan is to become the Juubi's Jinchuuriki and cast Infinite Tsukuyomi on the moon, stealing Obito's eye at this point would be a completely pointless action, and it would be bad writing on Kishi's part.

In fact, do you think he would steal Obito's eye and implant it on the middle of the battlefield? Pulling out his own eye would make it regenerate, and he won't even need it when the Tsuki no Me project is complete.

3. Kamui makes the user intangible, and you're saying that the sage is so powerful, he just transcends space and time? That's a pretty bold claim ...

Wrong. The absence of evidence =/= the evidence of absence. You lack evidence to support your claim just as I do, so your claim is just as valid as mine; invalid. Going by your logic, since there is no clear evidence that shows that Madara has tsukuyomi, he doesn't. However, one can infer that due to him attempting to use infinite tsukuyomi, he obviously must be able to use tsukuyomi.

Do you honestly believe Obito as the incomplete Juubi's jinchuuriki would be able to match the Sage as the complete Juubi's jinchuuriki, when the Sage, on his deathbed and no longer the Juubi's jinchuuriki, created the Moon? Yes, Obito may abuse his intangibility, but he still has to become tangible to attack, doesn't he? He would die then, would he not?

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Wrong. The absence of evidence =/= the evidence of absence. You lack evidence to support your claim just as I do, so your claim is just as valid as mine; invalid. Going by your logic, since there is no clear evidence that shows that Madara has tsukuyomi, he doesn't. However, one can infer that due to him attempting to use infinite tsukuyomi, he obviously must be able to use tsukuyomi.

Do you honestly believe Obito as the incomplete Juubi's jinchuuriki would be able to match the Sage as the complete Juubi's jinchuuriki, when the Sage, on his deathbed and no longer the Juubi's jinchuuriki, created the Moon? Yes, Obito may abuse his intangibility, but he still has to become tangible to attack, doesn't he? He would die then, would he not?

Whether the Sage would have intel or not
It's one way or another, it can't be neither, therefore not having intel gains the priority here.

You keep coming with the same arguments, but whatever the sage throws at him will have no effect, even if the sage creates a moon in an instant and drops it on Obito, it won't hit him. And as far as we know, the Juubi's Jinchuuriki has no speed feats, and Obito has the sharingan which can predict movements, so far the Rinnegan can not.

And another reason why I think Obito wins, is because he has so much more battle experience than the sage.
Why? Because the sage's power was unmatched, he sealed the Juubi so obviously no fighting skill was involved there, he was also a monk who craved peace, Obito is a more ruthless/aggressive fighter.

 

[Shura]

I'll admit that I was one of those fanboys too, but in a vs match between the two, the Juubi's power combined with Obito's haxxed intangilibity will probably give the sage a run for his money ...

Puppet Master knows what he is talking about.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Whether the Sage would have intel or not
It's one way or another, it can't be neither, therefore not having intel gains the priority here.

You keep coming with the same arguments, but whatever the sage throws at him will have no effect, even if the sage creates a moon in an instant and drops it on Obito, it won't hit him. And as far as we know, the Juubi's Jinchuuriki has no speed feats, and Obito has the sharingan which can predict movements, so far the Rinnegan can not.

And another reason why I think Obito wins, is because he has so much more battle experience than the sage.
Why? Because the sage's power was unmatched, he sealed the Juubi so obviously no fighting skill was involved there, he was also a monk who craved peace, Obito is a more ruthless/aggressive fighter.

Wrong. It's a variable that cannot be decided by us until we no more, and to claim that he does or does not would be invalid because you can't make a judgement on an unknown unknown.

Yes, but Obito will have to become tangible to attack. Once that happens, he dies, simple as that.

Wait, you think Obito would actually win?

 

[Penguin]

Obito has a chance to win, but I think the Sage takes this 9/10.

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Wrong. It's a variable that cannot be decided by us until we no more, and to claim that he does or does not would be invalid because you can't make a judgement on an unknown unknown.

Yes, but Obito will have to become tangible to attack. Once that happens, he dies, simple as that.

Wait, you think Obito would actually win?

Yes, yes I do ( ._.)

If you say the sage will kill instantly when Obito becomes tangible, then you're assuming he's faster than Obito, which we don't know.

Like I explained earlier, I think Obito wins because he's a shinobi, the sage is a monk, he probably doesn't even know what a kunai is.

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

Obito can't beat Madara because he can't die

 

[KidGamer65]

The Obito wank on this thread is strong. I can't believe some people believe that he can beat Rikudo.

Complete Juubi/Mastered Rinnegan/Special Sealing Tools/>>Incomplete Juubi and anything else Obito has in his arsenal.

Simple. As. That.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Even if incomplete its still a juubi.
So6p created a moon on deathbed? Obito warped and sealed incomplete juubi while with multiple fatal wounds.
Kamui and sharingan techs on steroids? Cmon rikudou loses.

 

[KidGamer65]

Even if incomplete its still a juubi.
So6p created a moon on deathbed? Obito warped and sealed incomplete juubi while with multiple fatal wounds.
Kamui and sharingan techs on steroids? Cmon rikudou loses.

The wank is strong in the bold.

Complete>Incomplete. How hard is that for you people to understand? I guess Obitards will be Obitards.

 

[stoikis]

People who claim this are stupid.The sage on his deathbed created a MOON.Also obito is jinchuriki to a incomplete juubi and his mastery over the rinnegan is pathetic compared to the sage.

 

[Draphsin]

No, as OP as he is he will not be stronger than the sage, lets at least wait for some feats before we can say anything

 

[AlphaScythian]

The wank is strong in the bold.
Complete>Incomplete. How hard is that for you people to understand? I guess Obitards will be Obitards.

And how incomplete are we talking about? 7/9 of full power or 78% isnt huge of a difference, kamui easily makes up for that.
Look at kakashi he would have died long ago w/o sharingan alone forget kamui.

Sage would simply have more stamina by 22%, while obito has huge list of techniques, those of sage plus some of his own and kamui makes the biggest impact here.

Better be a obitotard then just tard i guess.