636 Does Not Change Obito and Kakashi's Rankings

[itachi1000]

This has been an overly discussed topic in the past couple days, and I feel that I need to get my word out there.

The only reason why Kakashi was able to defeat Obito was because the fight took place in the other dimension, a place where Obito's body was tangible, thus he was at his most vulnerable and Kamui-less. If this fight took place in the real world, then Obito could just simply use Kamui's intangibility to evade Kakashi's attacks.

I mean seriously, it's only because of Kamui that Obito is so invincible.

Also, for those who say that Obito should've used his Rinnegan, please take the time to watch this video. Credit to SttuDio Pierrot
[video=youtube;c4UFyatxsxM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4UFyatxsxM[/video]

After watching the video, you should now realize why Obito could not use the Rinnegan in any of his fights during the war. Also, if you look at the situation from Obito's standpoint, he never would've thought that Naruto would be able to defeat his six Rinnegan-controlled jinchuriki and at the same time he also knew that the Leaf Village had developed counters for all the Rinnegans techniques after Pain was defeated, so for him to use Rinnegan during the war would've been pointless and stupid, thus the purple-eye itself is rendered useless!!!

But I will admit that Obito should've at least used his Wood Style and Giant Fire Jutsu against Kakashi.

But other than that, this fight does not change the power rankings between two because Kakashi was only able to defeat Obito when he was at his most vulnerable. Plain and simple.

So there isn't any plot no jutsu bullshit, just straight up facts.

Also, if anybody has any logical response to this, I'd really like to hear it.

 

[GrayParadise]

Yes it does, Kakashi is better than Obito.

 

[TrollingSage]

Ofc it doesnt. Kakashi was always above that loser.

 

[asparticus]

Kakashi is better you pansy

 

[namikaze12]

it does actually Kakashi > Obito

 

[asparticus]

He cud use kamui though but his body parts would go to the real wod

 

[Meee]

Nice bro, also as for the giant Katon thing you mentioned his Katons alone were only ever small his OP Bakufu Ranbu was the combination of Kamui and Katon so he wasn't able to use such a tech

 

[Bogard]

Ofc it doesnt. Kakashi was always above that loser.

Lol this

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[Ludicrous]

I wonder if the first few posters even read the 1st post :| but anyway the reason why Obito didn't use the rinnegan (because of less chakra and Kamui dimension and etc.) do make sense. It's just i suspect that Obito might have had been weakened from trying to control the 10 tails.

Obito > Kakashi
MS Kakashi > Base Obito
Rinnegan & MS Obito > MS Kakashi

 

[Wakizashi]

beating them at their most vulnerable is called strategy. many people have lost when they are most vulnerable, when you are caught off guard, off balanced, weak, or out of range. whatever you want to call it it's all the same and that's how the winners of a fight win. When it comes to fighting there is no being fair.

 

[Nous]

I agree, Obito is stronger. I honestly cannot understand what people are thinking when they say Kakashi is stronger than Obito. Obito had more than half his arsenal gone or restricted and he didn't even use most of his techniques that were unrestricted. In addition he was tired seeing that his Katon was smaller than usual and he had to save up for Rinne no Tensei.

 

[Draphsin]

Not in the slightest

 

[EZQ]

You're right, it just proves that Base Kakashi > Base Obito...

Kakashi is still top 15-10

 

[EZQ]

Also...

Obito didn't use wood and gigant fire ball

BUT

Kakashi didn't use earth wall, water prison, water dragon, hiding like a mole and etc...

So obito's wood atacks wouldn't have don't anything to kakashi, don't underrate him, HE DODGED KAKUZU'S FIRE+WIND BLASTS, FIRE ALONE WOULDN'T CATCH HIM, NOR WOULD MOKUTON

 

[sagemode07]

Obito with gedo maze, six bijuu, rinnegan, mangekyou, and izanagi. > kakashi.

 

[TrollingSage]

Obito with gedo maze, six bijuu, rinnegan, mangekyou, and izanagi. > kakashi.

Kakashi with kyubi chakra> Obito

 

[ANiMUS]

Sorry, but yes it does if this was a databook Obito's intelligence entry his intelligence would go down from overestimating his own power and challenging Kakashi in the kamui dimension and his taijutsu would go down from losing to the same moves kakashi did when he was a child. Kakashi > Obito

 

[MarunoKaishin]

Actually it does, not mater what an Obtio fan says what happened, happened.

What happened:
Kakashi hit him with 2-3 Rakiris and spanked him in Taijutsu. It won't be rewritten unless someone uses fan-fiction

 

[AzR]

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for me,its the quick thinking from kakashi and a some erroneous move from obito,the situation does not favors him..

in 1 on 1 situation in the real world, obito definitely have the upper hand on kakashi, kakashi's trump card tech, kamui is useless against someone who actually use kamui as stated by obito himself in the previous meeting where sasuke met kakashi,naruto and sakura after sasuke battled danzo... (ohh yeah,sakura tried to solo and failed ),

but there were a whole bunch of army out there, so its definitely risky for obito because with that sheer numbers they definitely have the advantage, plus kakashi had the kyuubi chakra, so he can spam those kamui like shiz and properly counter obito...

thats why he let himself being pull in by obito and told naruto to handle by himself because that's only way to negate the use of kamui(being transparent)

yeah... we can say obito didnt use his rinnegan ability,mokuton and so on... we can also question,where the hell is that kyuubi cloak gone after obito sucked him anyway?... with that,kakashi can give a hell of a fight in kamui world,in fact may defeat obito easily..

i respected kakashi because his a slick son of a b*tch.. many people underrated him.. he's a type that analyse opponents ability, when he gain intel, he'll execute some countermeasures appropriate with the situations... so, he does have A LOT OF INTEL of obito, plus he is a friend of him so expect kakashi to pull off something...

BUT, for me personally,. obito is stronger

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

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