Obito during his fight with Kakashi

WhiteMangekyou

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I'm a Kakashi fanboy, but I know that in his prime Obito is stronger than Kakashi in his prime. I'm just going to take a quick look at Obito's condition in his fight with Kakashi, and why he lost.

First let's look at Obito's main assets in his "Prime" that he could freely use to his advantage:
1. His Mangekyou Sharingan and his Kamui
2. His 6 paths
3. His Gedo Mazo

Now if we look at his gedo statue, he no longer can use it during the fight with Kakashi, as he used it to revive the 10 tails. If we look at his 6 paths, they were edo's, so that technique revolved around Kabuto's edo tensei, when Kabuto was defeated, those were rendered useless. Plus he used the beasts to revive the 10 tails. With Obito's Kamui, he could go intangible by sending the parts of his body under attack to the pocket world. Obito couldn't use this when fighting Kakashi because it put him at risk to being hit by an attack from the battlefield. This meant Obito's three main fighting assets couldn't be used in the fight with Kakashi, the best he could use was:

1. His rinnegan genjutsu
2. His fire style techniques
3. His really cool giant shuriken

If this is all you have against Kakashi, then you can't beat him, he is also a genjutsu master, so he won't fall for Obito's genjutsu. He can dodge fire style techniques without much trouble. He can dodge shuriken as well. The reason Obito lost wasn't exaustion, it was stupidity. He took Kakashi into their pocket dimension, were he rendered the basis of his fighting style (intangibility) useless. He had to work off of his other techniques, while Kakashi doesn't revolve around the Kamui, he uses genjutsu and raikiri, as well as his brain. Obito was at a huge disadvantage in the 1v1 fight, so he couldn't win, he just couldn't.

I hope this makes sense to everyone, and stops people from making bad excuses for why Kakashi won. I think that Obito's loss was his own fault, but he is stronger than Kakashi.
 
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nope you're wrong

Kakashi can just go into the other dimension and force obito to fight him there without all that extra stuff
 
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I agree that Obito was stupid to fight Kakashi in the Kanui dimension but I also feel that he was tired since he was controlling the Juubi and had been fighting for two days. Mainly because of that weak ass Katon he did.
 

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Nop You wrong Kakashi In dimension stronger than Obito.....
 

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Nop You wrong Kakashi In dimension stronger than Obito.....

Yeah I know, that's part of what I said. Obito can't go intangible in the Kamui dimension, so that takes away the main part of his fighting style.
 

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Yeah I know, that's part of what I said. Obito can't go intangible in the Kamui dimension, so that takes away the main part of his fighting style.

People fail to realize this so they cry plot no jutsu.
 

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+ Rep for you my friend, Obito was stupid on taking kakashi tot he other dimension, i mean no kamui for him, and no gedo mazo for him = dead for him if your opponents is kakashi, all he had was:

Mokuton: Did not use it because his mokuton level is fodder against kakashi's quickness and reflexes

Katon: Kakashi is a master in suiton and doton, so he cna easely counter that, also he is fast enough to dodge Kakuzu's wind+fire blast, fireball jutsu ain't doing shit to him

Med-Jonnin level taijutsu: Here kakashi owned him with just one kick

Genjutsu: Kakashi made a genjutsu on the same level.

If obito wasn't so stupid, he would've fight in the real dimension, able to use kamui and he would've killed kakashi low-med diff
 

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+ Rep for you my friend, Obito was stupid on taking kakashi tot he other dimension, i mean no kamui for him, and no gedo mazo for him = dead for him if your opponents is kakashi, all he had was:

Mokuton: Did not use it because his mokuton level is fodder against kakashi's quickness and reflexes

Katon: Kakashi is a master in suiton and doton, so he cna easely counter that, also he is fast enough to dodge Kakuzu's wind+fire blast, fireball jutsu ain't doing shit to him

Med-Jonnin level taijutsu: Here kakashi owned him with just one kick

Genjutsu: Kakashi made a genjutsu on the same level.

If obito wasn't so stupid, he would've fight in the real dimension, able to use kamui and he would've killed kakashi low-med diff
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yet without the suit thats all he could achieve...Pity.

He's half zetsu, he can do anything a zetsu can do and zetsu can't do that high level Woodstyle, so it would be logical to think that it's Obitos jutsu, have you ever seen a zetsu in the war do that?
 

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He's half zetsu, he can do anything a zetsu can do and zetsu can't do that high level Woodstyle, so it would be logical to think that it's Obitos jutsu, have you ever seen a zetsu in the war do that?

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It's the suit. Black zetsu achieved similar feats.
 

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Black Zetsu barley got any screen time he was fodderized by Darui

u asked what achieved similar feats. Black zetsu did. His untimely end has nothing to do with the point. Are you going to say madara's will makes black zetsu stronger than white/spiral? The only thing it really does is make it smarter.
 

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u asked what achieved similar feats. Black zetsu did. His untimely end has nothing to do with the point. Are you going to say madara's will makes black zetsu stronger than white/spiral? The only thing it really does is make it smarter.

Show me what Black Zetsu did
 
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