[Discussion] highest spirtual presure in bleach

[P3ĮÑ]

Uryuu, cause juha Bach said the nigga is gon show his true powers so he's solos LOOOL

Yamamoto and juha Bach
Dangai ichigo (Aizen himself stated he couldn't feel his Reitsu, since he was on a different league)
Aizen (it's so hard to compare between these two bastards :x3
Ulquiorra bishes

Just as panned

 

[NLee]

Umm.. Last time I checked... Ichigo SP cant make nobody bow.. Aizens SP can

So it goes

1.CC
2.Aizen
3.Kenpachi

It was stated in the Kenpachi novel which was approved and supported canon by Kubo himself.
Aizen confessed that there were two people in all of Soul Society he did not want to fight. They were Yamamoto and Zaraki Kenpachi.

The list goes:
1. Yamamoto
2. Zaraki
3. Aizen

 

[BlackFlame44]

Kenpachi wank too strong....

 

[kotoamatsukami]

It was stated in the Kenpachi novel which was approved and supported canon by Kubo himself.
Aizen confessed that there were two people in all of Soul Society he did not want to fight. They were Yamamoto and Zaraki Kenpachi.

The list goes:
1. Yamamoto
2. Zaraki
3. Aizen

Zaraki would have got beat down I thought the other was unohana.

 

[TheHokage]

I think a lot of people are forgetting a very important factor when it comes to this thread...it's based on highest spirit pressure not who wins who in a fight.

I it find astonishing that people are putting Yamamoto, Juhabach and Zaraki over Hogyoku Aizen and Dangai Ichigo when it comes to the spirit pressure.

Let's face facts Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen had a spiritual pressure so high, that nobody could sense them unless they had a similar level.

Isshin, Urahara and Yourichi couldn't sense Aizen before his final transformation and Ichigo was above that Aizen couldn't even sense Ichigo's...that says it all there.

Yamamoto come's in at either 3rd or 4th I'm afraid when it comes to spiritual pressure as even though it's at a monstrous level it could still be sensed by other characters meaning it was below Hogyoku Aizen and Dangai Ichigo.

With Kenpachi...what can I say the amount of fans that completely ignore logic to fanboy over Zaraki is outstanding he's either above Yamamoto or just below when it comes to spiritual pressure.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I think a lot of people are forgetting a very important factor when it comes to this thread...it's based on highest spirit pressure not who wins who in a fight.

I it find astonishing that people are putting Yamamoto, Juhabach and Zaraki over Hogyoku Aizen and Dangai Ichigo when it comes to the spirit pressure.

Let's face facts Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen had a spiritual pressure so high, that nobody could sense them unless they had a similar level.

Isshin, Urahara and Yourichi couldn't sense Aizen before his final transformation and Ichigo was above that Aizen couldn't even sense Ichigo's...that says it all there.

Yamamoto come's in at either 3rd or 4th I'm afraid when it comes to spiritual pressure as even though it's at a monstrous level it could still be sensed by other characters meaning it was below Hogyoku Aizen and Dangai Ichigo.

With Kenpachi...what can I say the amount of fans that completely ignore logic to fanboy over Zaraki is outstanding he's either above Yamamoto or just below when it comes to spiritual pressure.

You have no choice but to feel Yamamoto reiatsu it's part of his bankai his reiatsu could really kill captain level shinigami that's crazy that's why people put him over aizen an ichigo..Yamamoto would have been able to sense dangi ichigo an hogyku aizen in the end it don't matter Yamamoto is stringer than both them an the only way kenpachi reiatsu can be as or stronger than Yamamoto's is if he get bankai

 

[Ineverquit]

dangai ichigo -his reaitsu couldn't be read even by hogyoku aizen at his final form also ...
aizen - transcended form took him way beyond shinigami and hollows power ...
yamamoto - it's true he's stronger than aizen when it comes to fighting prowess still i think he can't beat aizen coz he has regenerative capabilites n only a true transcended being can defeat aizen
kenpachi - no need to state anything

This and Ichigo's Spiritual Pressure will only go higher because of him going to be able to use his full power.

 

[NLee]

You have no choice but to feel Yamamoto reiatsu it's part of his bankai his reiatsu could really kill captain level shinigami that's crazy that's why people put him over aizen an ichigo..Yamamoto would have been able to sense dangi ichigo an hogyku aizen in the end it don't matter Yamamoto is stringer than both them an the only way kenpachi reiatsu can be as or stronger than Yamamoto's is if he get bankai

You're forgetting something though.
When Yamamoto went Bankai everyone in Soul Society felt it. They felt it.

When Aizen evolved with the Hogyoku nobody could feel his reiatsu because he was on such a higher level. That's what TheHokage is trying to say.

As long as you can feel someone's reiatsu it means you are on a similar level as them.
If you can't feel it then it means they've completely transcended you:

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Aizen explains it here.

 

[TheHokage]

You have no choice but to feel Yamamoto reiatsu it's part of his bankai his reiatsu could really kill captain level shinigami that's crazy that's why people put him over aizen an ichigo..Yamamoto would have been able to sense dangi ichigo an hogyku aizen in the end it don't matter Yamamoto is stringer than both them an the only way kenpachi reiatsu can be as or stronger than Yamamoto's is if he get bankai

Not my point but anyway, It's like NLee explained also it's purely specualtion and you're opinion whether or not Yamamoto would have been able to sense Hogyoku Aizen or Dangai Ichigo.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

You're forgetting something though.
When Yamamoto went Bankai everyone in Soul Society felt it. They felt it.

When Aizen evolved with the Hogyoku nobody could feel his reiatsu because he was on such a higher level. That's what TheHokage is trying to say.

As long as you can feel someone's reiatsu it means you are on a similar level as them.
If you can't feel it then it means they've completely transcended you:

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Aizen explains it here.

Not my point but anyway, It's like NLee explained also it's purely specualtion and you're opinion whether or not Yamamoto would have been able to sense Hogyoku Aizen or Dangai Ichigo.

Of course they felt it his sword is fire they felt ryujin jinjakka's heat that's the point if a fire type zanpacto to set things on fire or send out heat..an no captain I mean no captain is any where near yamamoto's level hitsugiya felt the heat we kno he's not close to Yamamoto in power..but I guess I see what y'all trying to say..

An yea I believe Yamamoto would have been able to sense their power his power is worlds above isshin,yourichi,an urahara.

 

[Pure Logic]

If we're talking about currently in the manga... then Ichigo and Kenpachi... you have to think about the war potentials.... Yamamoto wasn't one of them.. cause they had a solid plan to steal his Bankai.... Kinda like what Aizen did. Yamamoto is strong.... but his old age, and one arm did him in. We also don't have enough information current to tell who's the strongest now.. "Most Likely Ichigo cause you know... main character"...

 

[TheHokage]

Of course they felt it his sword is fire they felt ryujin jinjakka's heat that's the point if a fire type zanpacto to set things on fire or send out heat..an no captain I mean no captain is any where near yamamoto's level hitsugiya felt the heat we kno he's not close to Yamamoto in power..but I guess I see what y'all trying to say..

An yea I believe Yamamoto would have been able to sense their power his power is worlds above isshin,yourichi,an urahara.

It doesn't matter whether or not it's a fire type Zanpaktou or not Isshin has a fire type but no one feels heat of his spirit pressure.

It's manga fact if a spirit pressure is so high no one will be able to sense it, it's not debatable it's fact. Hogyoku Aizen and Dangai Ichigo reached this level in fact Ichigo reached a level far above as not even Hogyoku Aizen could sense him.

Hogyoku Aizen had the ability to completely erase someone's existence purely by allowing people to feel his spirit pressure and he was barely releasing any.

It's not that Toshiro is as strong as Yamamoto it's just Yamamoto did not reach the level of a transcended being in terms of spirit pressure and no overrating can change that.

When it comes to just spirit pressure (I'm not going to get involved with who would win a fight as you have you're opinion and I have mine) Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen completely annihilate Yamamoto (remember I'm just talking about spirit pressure)

 

[kotoamatsukami]

It doesn't matter whether or not it's a fire type Zanpaktou or not Isshin has a fire type but no one feels heat of his spirit pressure.

It's manga fact if a spirit pressure is so high no one will be able to sense it, it's not debatable it's fact. Hogyoku Aizen and Dangai Ichigo reached this level in fact Ichigo reached a level far above as not even Hogyoku Aizen could sense him.

Hogyoku Aizen had the ability to completely erase someone's existence purely by allowing people to feel his spirit pressure and he was barely releasing any.

It's not that Toshiro is as strong as Yamamoto it's just Yamamoto did not reach the level of a transcended being in terms of spirit pressure and no overrating can change that.

When it comes to just spirit pressure (I'm not going to get involved with who would win a fight as you have you're opinion and I have mine) Dangai Ichigo and Hogyoku Aizen completely annihilate Yamamoto (remember I'm just talking about spirit pressure)

Lol what when has isshin used his bankai? Plus his power is no where near Yamamoto of course they not gone feel heat from him.

Like I said before Yamamoto works with flames of course you gone feel it what other captains felt was the heat from his sword not the heat coming from his spiritual pressure an when he allowed you to really feel his spiritual pressure you turn to dust quinces maintained there human forms cuz of blunt vene..

Yea aizen spiritual could erase someone's existence guess what yamamoto's could aswell so what you saying?

An basically if ur spiritual pressure is higher you win the fight so you are saying who would win if they fought but what ever no one stood on Yamamoto level..I can't wait till juha bring back his power.

 

[TheHokage]

Lol what when has isshin used his bankai? Plus his power is no where near Yamamoto of course they not gone feel heat from him.

Like I said before Yamamoto works with flames of course you gone feel it what other captains felt was the heat from his sword not the heat coming from his spiritual pressure an when he allowed you to really feel his spiritual pressure you turn to dust quinces maintained there human forms cuz of blunt vene..

Yea aizen spiritual could erase someone's existence guess what yamamoto's could aswell so what you saying?

An basically if ur spiritual pressure is higher you win the fight so you are saying who would win if they fought but what ever no one stood on Yamamoto level..I can't wait till juha bring back his power.

As I said you have you're opinion on who would win in a fight and I have mine.

But it's actually fact that if you're spirit pressure is high enough nobody can feel it unless they are on a similar level, I don't see why you're trying to downgrade that when it's been proven NLee has actually given you manga pages proving that. Manga > Your opinion

It doesn't matter whether the spirit pressure is fire, water or any other type the fact is if you can feel the spirit pressure the person hasn't reached the level of Hogyoku Aizen or Dangai Ichigo (Spiritual pressure wise) as you can say you think Yamamoto would be able to feel their spiritual pressure all you want, fact is you have no evidence to prove or back that up.

Anyway I can't wait to see Juhabach with Yamamoto's Bankai either I wonder who'll defeat him, I also hope they have it so Juha master's the Bankai as well.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

As I said you have you're opinion on who would win in a fight and I have mine.

But it's actually fact that if you're spirit pressure is high enough nobody can feel it unless they are on a similar level, I don't see why you're trying to downgrade that when it's been proven NLee has actually given you manga pages proving that. Manga > Your opinion

It doesn't matter whether the spirit pressure is fire, water or any other type the fact is if you can feel the spirit pressure the person hasn't reached the level of Hogyoku Aizen or Dangai Ichigo (Spiritual pressure wise) as you can say you think Yamamoto would be able to feel their spiritual pressure all you want, fact is you have no evidence to prove or back that up.

Anyway I can't wait to see Juhabach with Yamamoto's Bankai either I wonder who'll defeat him, I also hope they have it so Juha master's the Bankai as well.

You also dont have evidence that Yamamoto can't feel dangai ichigo an aizen spiritual pressure..it does matter if its heat its goig to give off heat his sword gives off heat ur going to feel that no matter what..ahh **** it

 

[TheHokage]

You also dont have evidence that Yamamoto can't feel dangai ichigo an aizen spiritual pressure..it does matter if its heat its goig to give off heat his sword gives off heat ur going to feel that no matter what..ahh **** it

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Aizen clearly states Shinigami are not able to sense him and Yamamoto is a Shinigami nothing more this is fact (Manga proof) this here is the only page I need to prove my point and Aizen is on a level Yamamoto can't match when it comes to spiritual pressure and Aizen couldn't even sense Ichigo. You're dreaming if you think Yamamoto is on the same level.

But here...EliteAce says it better than I can.
[video=youtube;fm7MIFiJNys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fm7MIFiJNys[/video]

End story.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

This nerd ball ain't tite kubo can't even watch this seriously..Yamamoto>dangi ichigo&aizen..lol dats you I bet lol.

 

[Pure Logic]

Yamamoto is dead, move on to the next strongest already.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Juha is the next strongest

 

[Pure Logic]

Or the soul king