Kishi foreshadowing sasuke and naruto future.

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It all makes sense now :

We can see in hashirama and madara case,

Hashirama was always superior to madara and even in their last battle , hashirama win it.
Madara had OP powerups given to him like EMS,Kurama and that Fan , yet he lost to hashirama who had nothing but mokuton as a powerup.

IN, Kakashi and Obito case,

In childhood, Kakashi was always superior to obito . Obito was never able to defeat kakashi and always tried to catch up to him.
Now, in the present, obito got OP powers like rinnegan,mokuton,MS etc and still he lost to kakashi.
It means power ups doesn't matter and history always repeats itself.

Now, coming to case of sasuke and naruto,

Every time naruto meet with sasuke, he was always weaker than him ( ignore war arc for now)

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So we can kishi has been following the same pattern .
Naruto has always been behind sasuke.

Obito, even after getting all those powerups and being theoretically stronger than kakashi, still lost to him.
So naruto even after getting those OP stuff like bijju dama,BM,odama FRS and all will still be weaker to sasuke , with the pattern kishi has been following.

Now i understand why sasuke turned to the good side.

Also, Intelligence >>>>> Raw power, this has been proven many times in the manga.

One more thing is ,

What naruto thinks would happen when they will go for all out fight :

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What sasuke thinks will happen whey they go for all out fight :
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What we learnt :

Manga's opinion >>>> fan opinion >>>>>>>>>> fanboy(narutards) opinion.

Edit :
i think people didn't get it.
This means, when they fight, either naruto loses or both of them die.

So, either it would be a draw or naruto loses.
Sasuke would never lose to naruto :)

So i think kishi has been foreshadowing this from long time and it is pretty clear now.
 

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Only, Naruto is meant to succeed where his precedessors failed - in other words hes mean to win against Sasuke.
 

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I seriously doubt that, sounds more like a fanboy pulling at straws, because Naruto>Sasuke.

Edit: Also, a major theme is that even geniuses can fall to never giving up.
 
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Only, Naruto is meant to succeed where his precedessors failed - in other words hes mean to win against Sasuke.

The first part of your statement is complete garbage.

What would be the point of any character in this show then?
 

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Sasuke will die alone or live a miserable life like past Madara.
 

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The first part of your statement is complete garbage.

What would be the point of any character in this show then?
Of any character? Naruto is the main character in the manga.
 

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Lol another frikid thread or should I say failkid thread?
 

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The cycle of hatred has to end. Therefore, either Sasuke has to change completely (no final battle) or they both die (less likely) OR Sasuke dies on the battlefield possibly sacrificing himself for the village. =D
 

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Raw power > intelligence.
 

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Naruto was stronger than sasuke at the valley in part one, Plot just never allowed him to use summoning.

Naruto was stronger when he met an almost completely blind MS sasuke.

Currently naruto is stronger than the EMS sasuke that he just met.

Also if Intelligence >>>> Raw power, Shikamaru and his father would get gods of the narutoverse.
 
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Sounds legit but I feel naruto is gonna win. He has been holding back against sasuke for a very long time
 

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Of any character? Naruto is the main character in the manga.

So what?

We've seen growth through a numerous amount of characters and for you to say that they are not meant to succeed because they are not Naruto is straight up garbage.
 

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i kinda think they are equals :p i dont know how it is going to end, but not like this :D
 

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Not against him, thats for sure.

Its not stupid, its just the main character previlege.

Too bad, Sasuke is also a main char.

Naruto was stronger than sasuke at the valley in part one, Plot just never allowed him to use summoning.
Naruto was stronger when he met an almost completely blind MS sasuke.
Currently naruto is stronger than the EMS sasuke that he just met.
Also if Intelligence >>>> Raw power, Shikamaru and his father would get gods of the narutoverse.

Using plot as a counter argument, Lol?

I can say sasuke didn't kill naruto at here, and plot(orochimaru interference) saved naruto.

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And madara/tobi killed the shinobi alliance headquarters first because it was the biggest threat.
 

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Also if you look at it though the past Obito who more closely resembled naruto in beliefs when he found Rin and Kakashi through the will to protect the one's he loved he powered up obviously becoming stronger than Kakashi. Thus if this pattern is repeated Naruto will probably level up again if something is threatening his safety. This threat seems to be Madara because lets face it this man is about to revive his phyiscal self through Obito in order to become the jinchuriki lol ik I diced that spelling up but just forgive me. Anyways Naruto will probably power up again to oppose this and already with his power alone he is far greater than Sasuke. Thus if Sasuke reasons for becoming Hokage which do seem to be sketchy threaten the ones Naruto loves this will give him the power to take Sasuke down. And if all else fails talk no jutsu or plot no jutsu will definitely be used!
 

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Too bad, Sasuke is also a main char.

Second main character, not the first one. Plot-wise, Sasuke has no chance to win against Naruto in their final battle.
 
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