Sakura is not main character-ish

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But Sakura has proven that she isn't..



Last time Sakura used a fake smile was on Naruto when she said she didn't care about Sasuke anymore... she does it when she is lying. She wants to trust Sasuke and wants to be happy he is back but she knows deep down she can't trust him and she knows something still "up" with him.





Sakura has done so on a more personal level however.. and, Sakura was one of the first people to actually encourage him. Her and Hinata were the only ones to actually cheer him on in the fight against Kiba. She started to acknowledge him during the Chunin exams and then it kept growing stronger.




Naruto wasn't in danger though.. If Naruto was about to die in the fight agaisnt Neji, Kakashi would of jumped in. She had no need to worry about him.. Her focus was on Sasuke because of the reasons I already posted previously.






Still much better than him chasing after Sasuke.. suffering for the rest of his life doing so, and then eventually dying while trying to do it. She was trying to make him move on..
Ah Fanta just let it go.. you try too much to defend Sakura. You do realize you're more than likely not to change their opinion over Sakura do you?
 

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Ah Fanta just let it go.. you try too much to defend Sakura. You do realize you're more than likely not to change their opinion over Sakura do you?

The same could be said for him not changing my opinion..

It's just a friendly debate, what's the problem with that?

The Naruto Discussion forum wouldn't even exist according to your logic.
 

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Sakura has been Heroine since she debuted. Deal with that fact. Whether she got that power up or not, Kishimoto still chose her to be the Heroine of the series for his own reasons. His story, not mine. Sorry to disappoint you.

My main issue with her status as a "main character" is that she's not actually important to the plot of the story. There are a few cases where Sakura is filling a role that supports the main characters - but the same can be said of characters like Shikamaru - who are not main characters.

Her personal character has almost zero plot significance.

Though that will likely be changing. Sakura will sacrifice herself to prevent Naruto and Sasuke from killing each other:



Did you see her react the way Karin did? Forgiving Sasuke instantly? No where in the manga did it mention that she forgave him for trying to kill her or did she say herself.
She's stopped being the obsessive fangirl when she learned more about Sasuke. You're over exaggerating yourself. The day Sasuke left the village and tried to stop him, she spoke from the heart not the "fangirl" side of her.

Over exaggerate?

Do you know what the word: "Exaggerate" means? Or do I need to visit the Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) Machine to buy you a dictionary?

Or am I making enormously large, mountainous mountains out of mole-hills?

Sakura still loves Sasuke - and is still committed to him.

The difference between her and Karin is that Sakura is also committed to an idea - to Team Seven and the village it stands for. Which is why the wind that blows the Sakura is the wind that will move Sasuke.

Burden

She admits that she feels like a burden to her teammates but has done plenty to redeem herself. She even trained through out the years and worked hard to get where she is now. A kunoichi who is highly intelligent, skillful, selfless, and protective is not one to be called a burden.

The reason people like myself don't really hold Sakura in very high regard as far as a valid team member is because of the rarity of events like her kick-assery in the Forest of Death. That was an ingenius tactical ploy with her use of the substitution Jutsu. She set up the pattern that she'd only substitute away, which (at least in real life) would have meant fewer kunai would be thrown at her (why throw a bunch at something that's just going to poof away?) - giving her a way to influence the amount of attrition she had to accept when she finally launched her attack.

But... that character doesn't make an appearance at the Tenchi Bridge. It doesn't make an appearance in Orochimaru's hideout. It doesn't appear during Pain's invasion.

That's why I wouldn't take her on a forward operating team. I don't know whether she's going to end up being a bad ass or whether she's going to end up being a damsel in distress. Unfortunately, her history of being a bad-ass tends to be when she's the only one left standing.

And, in most of those cases - everyone would still be up and standing if she'd run "badass.exe" from the get-go.

Tsk. Your move.

All of the character judgments on Sakura are not really relevant to the point that Sakura's character holds almost no plot significance. The most plot-relevant part she will play is resolving the issue between Naruto and Sasuke without those two having to forfeit their lives. I highly suspect that will cost her the life she has.
 

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Sasuke used his sharingan for the 1st time against Haku. He later used it against Lee. So no, she has no benefits whatsoever

She's a fangirl. She was ready to abandon everything for a bot=y she hardly understands. How does she love Sasuke if she doesn't know him ? She was tactless talking about naruto's parents being dead while Sasuke's were killed too. She grew up a little but i'm still going to say it, that smile. She doesn't believe sasuke's change of heart yet she refuse to face it and she's hiding. That's not how you love someone.

I admitted she redeemed herself in the forest of death. Even though she defeated no one.

You think she's not obsessed ? All she could say in Part 1 was Sasuke. Please. I'm not even going for scans to back that up.

Useless (and protective ?)

Okay she threw herself to protect the engineer. And ??? Nothing. She just stayed there. She was shaking. Only thinking about Sasuke fighting Haku. She didn't help them in those two fights. At all. Sasuke and naruto did all he fighting

Unsupportive

So Naruto beats down Gaara and who does she thank ?? Sasuke. Even when he tells her he did nothing she doesn't believe him at first..

I could write a longer post but it's 1 a.m so i'm off to sleep. Maybe tomorrow I'll continue with this

Sakura still caused Sasuke to fight by calling him a coward (that goes against you thinking she's obsessed over him).

Does one need to be victorious to redeem one's self? Isn't the act of trying not good enough? :|

Smile: Sakura doesn't trust Sasuke anymore, therefore the love she had for him in the beginning is no longer the same. She's realizing this and lying to Sai with a fake smile was basically reassuring him that things will be okay for now, since Sasuke hasn't done anything yet. She's keeping a close eye on Sasuke but she knows he's up to no good. One wrong move from Sasuke and she won't hesitate to take him down to protect Naruto (that's the determined look she had on her face in the last chapter when she was watching Sasuke). Through out the series of Part II, she's mostly been talking about protecting Naruto and joining him to bring Sasuke back so she'll definitely stay by Naruto's side. Of course, like Naruto, she deeply cares about Sasuke and wouldn't want to hurt him (especially since he's her first love), but they both know that force will be used if Sasuke turns his back on them again. She no longer loves him like the way she thinks she does and she's coming to that conclusion. Maybe love in the way Naruto loves Sasuke (friendship almost like family) but never the same. She is not obsessed. You misunderstand her character completely by exaggerating her feelings for Sasuke. Whether she knew knows him or not, she cares about him deeply, otherwise she wouldn't have gone through the trouble of trying to stop him from leaving and bringing him back.


Throwing herself in front of someone, whether that person is of importance of not, is a noble thing to do and selfless. Would you jump in front of bullet for someone you hardly even know? Throw your whole life away, your family, and friends to save that one stranger? You're not giving Sakura the respect she deserves regardless of her actions being big or small.

Sasuke deserved to be thanked anyway because he caught her when she was falling from the tree. She glanced back at Naruto and smiled, acknowledging him for being her savoir. She's thanked Naruto many times in the series, especially now in Shippuden. Need I run through the manga to show you proof again?

I could write a longer post but you know, you're sleeping soundly. Sweet dreams. <3 :|
 

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My main issue with her status as a "main character" is that she's not actually important to the plot of the story. There are a few cases where Sakura is filling a role that supports the main characters - but the same can be said of characters like Shikamaru - who are not main characters.

Her personal character has almost zero plot significance.

Though that will likely be changing. Sakura will sacrifice herself to prevent Naruto and Sasuke from killing each other:





Over exaggerate?

Do you know what the word: "Exaggerate" means? Or do I need to visit the Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) Machine to buy you a dictionary?

Or am I making enormously large, mountainous mountains out of mole-hills?

Sakura still loves Sasuke - and is still committed to him.

The difference between her and Karin is that Sakura is also committed to an idea - to Team Seven and the village it stands for. Which is why the wind that blows the Sakura is the wind that will move Sasuke.



The reason people like myself don't really hold Sakura in very high regard as far as a valid team member is because of the rarity of events like her kick-assery in the Forest of Death. That was an ingenius tactical ploy with her use of the substitution Jutsu. She set up the pattern that she'd only substitute away, which (at least in real life) would have meant fewer kunai would be thrown at her (why throw a bunch at something that's just going to poof away?) - giving her a way to influence the amount of attrition she had to accept when she finally launched her attack.

But... that character doesn't make an appearance at the Tenchi Bridge. It doesn't make an appearance in Orochimaru's hideout. It doesn't appear during Pain's invasion.

That's why I wouldn't take her on a forward operating team. I don't know whether she's going to end up being a bad ass or whether she's going to end up being a damsel in distress. Unfortunately, her history of being a bad-ass tends to be when she's the only one left standing.

And, in most of those cases - everyone would still be up and standing if she'd run "badass.exe" from the get-go.



All of the character judgments on Sakura are not really relevant to the point that Sakura's character holds almost no plot significance. The most plot-relevant part she will play is resolving the issue between Naruto and Sasuke without those two having to forfeit their lives. I highly suspect that will cost her the life she has.
1 shes an amazing and very capable medical ninja so idk y you wouldnt want her around seeing as your logic is all speculation 2nd after her performance against sasori id take her anywhere bar none
 

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The same could be said for him not changing my opinion..

It's just a friendly debate, what's the problem with that?

The Naruto Discussion forum wouldn't even exist according to your logic.
I'm not so sure that he was trying to change your opinion but express his own opinion with the thread. Either way I never said it was wrong to have a friendly debate did I? By the way I would like you to show me this logic you're talking about? I'm sure I said you try too much to defend Sakura no? I never said debates weren't allowed.. please do read more carefully.
 

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I'm not so sure that he was trying to change your opinion but express his own opinion with the thread. Either way I never said it was wrong to have a friendly debate did I? By the way I would like you to show me this logic you're talking about? I'm sure I said you try too much to defend Sakura no? I never said debates weren't allowed.. please do read more carefully.

I'm also just expressing my opinion as well.. there's absolutely no difference between what he's doing and what I'm doing. We're both defending our point of view.

I really don't care if he changes his opinion or not..

Good job calling me out though, just because you disagree with me.
 

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I'm also just expressing my opinion as well.. there's absolutely no difference between what he's doing and what I'm doing. We're both defending our point of view.

I really don't care if he changes his opinion or not..

Good job calling me out though, just because you disagree with me.
Yeah I know that thanks for pointing the obvious out.. I'm sure this was established already. I was just encouraging you to let it go because you try too much to defend Sakura.. I never said you both can't express your opinions. :| Really? What did I disagree with?
 

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Yeah I know that thanks for pointing the obvious out.. I'm sure this was established already. I was just encouraging you to let it go because you try too much to defend Sakura.. I never said you both can't express your opinions. :| Really? What did I disagree with?

Ok well. I don't feel like taking your advice. :bye:
 

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But we are just discussing. Even if it's fiction, we taking it in the fictional context (hence why I said she's not worthy of being a main character. I know it's Kishi's fault for drawing her character like that but fact is, her character is just like I described.

And my tits are very calm thank you =D
This had nothing to do with the fact that she is a character. At least explain why she isn't. Kishimoto didn't plan for her to be the main heroine but hey ya learn. And just to be clear, PEOPLE that worked with Kishimoto only said Hinata would be a better heroine than Sakura. Kishimoto didn't say that.
 
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