Proof that Deidara > Killer Bee

[Prince Charles]

Hmm... I can't tell if you're a fanboy, just stupid, or have some failed misconception in your head...

Haha how about you stop trolling and tell me how Bee counters C4 with no knowledge.

 

[Shura]

Hmm... I can't tell if you're a fanboy, just stupid, or have some failed misconception in your head...

''I can't counter shit, but I'll still say my fave wins and call you a fanboy''.


That is basically how you think.. :|

 

[Prince Charles]

The Juubi just flicked it, he did not shrink it. [

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Perhaps, he might not use it but Gyuki has tanked worse.
A partial transformation solves that problem, he could use Gyuki's tail to reach the C3. Its pretty fast considering he used it to save A from Minato.

oh? my aplogies but it seems to me the tbb had shrinked considering how microscopic it looked it looked infront of the Juubi's eye?

the 8 tails has no knowlege in the radius nor the power of C3 to him it can be a simple blast but in reality it can destroy a village.

partial transformation? you mean the transformation bee used against minato to save A? that would be idiotic on Bees part ..

 

[Wave.]

oh? my aplogies but it seems to me the tbb had shrinked considering how microscopic it looked it looked infront of the Juubi's eye?

the 8 tails has no knowlege in the radius nor the power of C3 to him it can be a simple blast but in reality it can destroy a village.

partial transformation? you mean the transformation bee used against minato to save A? that would be idiotic on Bees part ..

I thought the same thing too at first xD

Bee would have to transform to Gyuki to have a shot in attacking Deidara(assuming he's flying)

You said Bee's swords were small and can't reach C3, a partial transformation would allow Bee to hit C3 with his sword. Although this probably won't happen since Bee doesn't know he can defuse C3 and would transform to Gyuki if Deidara flies.

 

[Optimistic]

Restrict Biju mode then maybe he can.

 

[Waltz]

Firstly, Deidara's chakra pools are inferior to Kirābī's and his clay bombs are rendered ineffective if Raiton is applied; meaning that Bee already has the advantage as even an inexperience shinobi as Sasuke was knowledgeable of the fact that Doton is weak against raiton [

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] and is easily observable through Deidara's handseals. Something as simple as bee's

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/swords is enough to disable Deidara's bombs and highlights the fight that Bee is able to channel this chakra through any inanimate object and may be used to his advantage. Deidara mounting C1 means nothing as while being in his Pseudo jinchuriki state [an instant transformation] it greatly enhances Bee's physical ability; allotting him the ability to jump to extraordinary heights [

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] It is also rendered useless by the

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. Bee could simply blitz Deidara and finish him with a V2/V1 lariat at the beginning of the fight; given his shunshin feats. Deidara's explosives aren't affecting the Version 2 cloak as it is tough enough to withstand bijuu-dama equaling the scales of C3 [

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] as well as Kusanagi no Tsurugi's penetrative ability; solely implying that your claims that the explosives will aid to the heat increase are false. The water dome also had no cooling effect on either of Bee's cloaks as it was never stated or implied an issue, merely your speculation. Bee takes little to no time to perform Bijuu dama as his current feats in doing so surpasses your old references give that he is:

-> Able to produce several at once [

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-> Able to form it within minimal time [

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Deidara's C4 bombs are not by bypassing either of the cloak modes and would be finish long before he's able to use such a jutsu. In terms of Taijutsu, Kirābī is clearly the superior of the two. To mention also that if bee decides to use the full hachibi he still has

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to rely on. Overall Bee is not only at extreme advantages but the better shinobi of the two. It's rather strange to actually think someone like Deidara has a chance against a perfect Jinchuriki. ​

 

[Shura]

I thought the same thing too at first xD

Bee would have to transform to Gyuki to have a shot in attacking Deidara(assuming he's flying)

You said Bee's swords were small and can't reach C3, a partial transformation would allow Bee to hit C3 with his sword. Although this probably won't happen since Bee doesn't know he can defuse C3 and would transform to Gyuki if Deidara flies.

It's also doubtful that a small Raiton sword can turn such a big bomb into a dud.. Not to mention that Bee wouldn't know that Raiton is his weakness..

 

[Prince Charles]

I thought the same thing too at first xD

Bee would have to transform to Gyuki to have a shot in attacking Deidara(assuming he's flying)

You said Bee's swords were small and can't reach C3, a partial transformation would allow Bee to hit C3 with his sword. Although this probably won't happen since Bee doesn't know he can defuse C3 and would transform to Gyuki if Deidara flies.

Actually i was referring to bee sticking his sword into the ground as a way to deactive the bombs similar to what sasuke did, but it wouldnt be as effective since the sword is too small.

Exactly my point, we cant say Bee would have the tactical openings and analyzing skills such as sasuke to counter deidaras clay. Diedara should be able to dodge Bee's sword from reaching C3 with his enhanced eye that deidara has which gives him a greater view in long range as shown when he spotted sand ninja from far above the sasuke.

honestly C3 isnt needed a C4 is actually enough.

 

[Optimistic]

It's also doubtful that a small Raiton sword can turn such a big bomb into a dud.. Not to mention that Bee wouldn't know that Raiton is his weakness..

As if Killer bee or his 8 tails wouldn't notice the basic hand sign for Doton.:|

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[Multiply]

''I can't counter shit, but I'll still say my fave wins and call you a fanboy''.


That is basically how you think.. :|

He's not nearly my favorite... Genma is probably my favorite character. Tied with Tobirama and Yamato. Sorry. you are a fanboy... Look at your name :|

Haha how about you stop trolling and tell me how Bee counters C4 with no knowledge.

How does Deidara get that far before getting him with a TBB? We already know he doesn't start off with it. So you tell me why Bee wouldn't start off with Tbb, as we've seen him do it several times. Go on, try to save yourself "Your Majesty."

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Naw, Most of those counters wouldn't work. I'll try to go in depth when I have more time.

 

[Shura]

As if Killer bee or his 8 tails wouldn't notice the basic hand sign for Doton.:|

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Didn't Sasuke notice it due to the Sharingan? Well it depends on how far Deidara is. Considering that Deidara isn't stupid, he would most likely keep his distance when he is fighting a Jinchuuriki or a Biju.

He's not nearly my favorite... Genma is probably my favorite character. Tied with Tobirama and Yamato. Sorry. you are a fanboy... Look at your name :|

Of course... Judging me by my name.. :| I will admit that I'm a Sasori fanboy. U_U

 

[blazekev90]

As if Killer bee or his 8 tails wouldn't notice the basic hand sign for Doton.:|

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-_- really, so they know this hand and what it represents and means to counter? Please.

 

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It's also doubtful that a small Raiton sword can turn such a big bomb into a dud.. Not to mention that Bee wouldn't know that Raiton is his weakness..

Killer Bee has 8.

Actually i was referring to bee sticking his sword into the ground as a way to deactive the bombs similar to what sasuke did, but it wouldnt be as effective since the sword is too small.

Exactly my point, we cant say Bee would have the tactical openings and analyzing skills such as sasuke to counter deidaras clay. Diedara should be able to dodge Bee's sword from reaching C3 with his enhanced eye that deidara has which gives him a greater view in long range as shown when he spotted sand ninja from far above the sasuke.

honestly C3 isnt needed a C4 is actually enough.

Oh that's what you meant. Deidara would need to go underground to plant the bombs, Bee can transform to V2 and attack him with chakra arms.

Killer Bee just needs to notice his hand signs, I am sure a shinobi of his caliber knows Raiton>Doton. Doubt it, when Bee's tentacles were able to save A from getting hit by Minato.

C4 takes some time to perform, Killer Bee can kill him with a TBB before C4 is finished.

 

[Shura]

Killer Bee has 8.

It's still 8 small swords against a giant clay bomb. :/

 

[Multiply]

-_- really, so they know this hand and what it represents and means to counter? Please.

Are you slow? If it's doton, a high level shinobi will know. That's why the sharingan can watch hand signs. To tell which element the user is doing. Plus to create a counter. Which is how Sasuke's reaction time has flourished. That's why the sharingan is such a formidable doujutsu. They know what you're doing the instant you do it and counter. So when you only use 1 seal, and the opponent can clearly see it doton, would they use a weaker element if they clearly have a stronger one? The obvious counter for Doton is Raiton. :|

 

[Prince Charles]

Firstly, Deidara's chakra pools are inferior to Kirābī's and his clay bombs are rendered ineffective if Raiton is applied; meaning that Bee already has the advantage as even an inexperience shinobi as Sasuke was knowledgeable of the fact that Doton is weak against raiton [

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] and is easily observable through Deidara's handseals. Something as simple as bee's

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/swords is enough to disable Deidara's bombs and highlights the fight that Bee is able to channel this chakra through any inanimate object and may be used to his advantage. Deidara mouning C1 means nothing as while being in his Pseudo jinchuriki state [an instant transformation] it greatly enhances Bee's physical ability; allotting him the ability to jump to extraordinary heights [

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->

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] It is also rendered useless by the

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. Be could simply blitz Deidara and finish him with a V2/V1 lariat at the beginning of the fight; given his shunshin feats. Deidara's explosives aren't affecting the Version 2 cloak as it is tough enough to withstand bijuu-dama equaling the scales of C4 Garuda [

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->

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] as well as Kusanagi no Tsurugi's penetrative ability; solely implying that your claims that the explosives will aid to the heat increase are false. The water dome also had no cooling effect on either of Bee's cloaks as it was never stated or implied an issue, merely your speculation. Bee takes little to no time to perform Bijuu dama as his current feats in doing so surpasses your old references give that he is:

-> Able to produce several at once [

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]
-> Able to form it within minimal time [

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]

Deidara's C3 bombs are not by bypassing either of the cloak modes and would be finish long before he's able to use such a jutsu. In terms of Taijutsu, Kirābī is clearly the superior of the two. To mention also that if bee decides to use the full hachibi he still has

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to rely on. Overall Bee is not only at extreme advantages but the better shinobi of the two. It's rather strange to actually think someone like Deidara has a chance against a perfect Jinchuriki. ​

His chakra pool being inferior isnt really a problen here considering he has 1 shot move like C4. You keep saying Bee will be able to disable the bombs when he hasnt shown versatality in his raiton which sasuke has also with the help of his sharigan.

Lariat wont do much damage here. Deidara has already shown high endurance capabilities against pain, he took kakashi warping his arm like it was nothing? gaara crushing his arm and leg like it was nothing..

Funny how yoy post nothing about C4 because Bee has no counter to it. While i agree with the reat of your post regarding the bombs having no effect on Bee in his tailed v2 form you totally left out C4

 

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It's still 8 small swords against a giant clay bomb. :/

The manga didn't really state you need a strong lightning jutsu to make the bomb a dud. He also has a pencil xD

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

Killer Bee wins high diff

 

[Strawberry]

A > B > C logic doesn't work in Naruto. Bee doesn't have the Sharingan.

exactly sharingan has been a known weakness in deidaras efforts.

i dont think diedara would win but definatly force him to 8 tails mode