funny how Itachi is stronger than most kages of history

[HadouKage]

SM naruto can predict movements due to his increased sensing ability. Itachi used his analytical skills alone to predict where kabuto would strike. He did it all without the help of his sharingan which is known for that sort of thing (predicting movements).

The fact that Itachi doesnt need sharingan to read his opponent & counter before they can make the next move is definitely an intelligence feat.

??? No it doesn't ppl can dodge kunai, shuriken in a likely manner, does that mean they have intelligence feats as well? It's just called observation

 

[Draphsin]

??? No it doesn't ppl can dodge kunai, shuriken in a likely manner, does that mean they have intelligence feats as well? It's just called observation

Show me a ninja who can dodge a kunai while blind.

Itachi read kabuto's movements, he didnt dodge a simple kunai he figured out what kabuto was going to do before he did it.

 

[HadouKage]

Show me a ninja who can dodge a kunai while blind.

Itachi read kabuto's movements, he didnt dodge a simple kunai he figured out what kabuto was going to do before he did it.

Again, analytical skills don't add to intelligence and who said Itachi wasn't using the Sharigan? It clearly shows two-three pages before that he had it activated it's an ability not an intelligence feat

 

[blazekev90]

I'm an idiot for legitimately defending Itachi in a simple debate thread? Im not trolling or insulting anybody so what gives you the right to call me an idiot?? Do you seriously want this to turn into a flame thread because you have a different opinion? Pretty childish If I do say so myself U_U

A hater is a hater it seems now if you wanna be mature about this then I suggest you get rid of the insults



Denying what the manga has shown you. Because Itachi was able to predict kabuto's movements, that makes him more intelligent (How many ninja can predict the movements of their opponents without sharingan? Dont forget he was blind so he had no help from his ocular jutsu, it was simply his better judgement that led him to counter kabuto).

This is a pure intelligence feat whether you like it or not, kabuto even backs Itachi's hype because that scan is an example of how he is different from ordinary uchiha.

The hype states that Itachi was the smartest of his generation, that's the only thing that made him "different" from other uchiha, therefore kabuto just confirmed Itachi's hype



This is hype, but ill argue anyways. Konan had full info + prep on obito yet she couldnt kill him, konan is intelligent enough to have come up with a jutsu that only a select few can even escape. The fact that obito was confident that Itachi could kill obito with info proves that he was more intelligent than konan, who came up with an otherwise flawless plan.

This is proof of hype but as I said its proof nonetheless =D



Wrong, the fact that Itachi was able to maintain a calm attitude shows that he can quickly come up with a counter for plenty of jutsu, given the right tools.

Btw no it was Itachi who instantly figured out CBT's powerful attractive force, before naruto even said anything.

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Without naruto Itachi would've still figured it out, the only info naruto gave Itachi was the fact that it "draws" you closer to the center. Itachi immediately figured out the weakness & this is another example of how casually he does it to. Cant deny this



How about you show me some gaara intelligence feats big shot? You obviously have some sort of claim here, now before you embarrass yourself how about you go out in a blaze of glory, show me some feats of gaara's intelligence & how its better than Itachi's.

:bye:

Hahaha let's not play.dumb,you indirectly tried to say someone else was an idiot, with the whole "Real idiot" comment. Stop it!

So is it predict his movements or his feelings? Make up your mind. Nonetheless, none display intelligence as this would be a skill, as i stated before. Also, from what remember only one eye went blind.
Also, that's the ability to sense an opponent, something other nonsensors can do, relax

Why are you stating the obvious as if it's intelligence? !?! Who can't see what C is? He asked naruto how he survived and he gave him the details he needed, how much more straightforward can that be?!?

Drawing into the center is key to the technique -_- lol

I've stated this multiple times, have u not read through the thread?

Garra vs 2Nd mizukage

 

[blazekev90]

SM naruto can predict movements due to his increased sensing ability. Itachi used his analytical skills alone to predict where kabuto would strike. He did it all without the help of his sharingan which is known for that sort of thing (predicting movements).

The fact that Itachi doesnt need sharingan to read his opponent & counter before they can make the next move definitely makes it an intelligence feat.

You're not getting the difference between a skill and intelligence

Gai being able to read ones movement only by observing their feet is a SKILL

This being very similar

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Realistically if you don't resort to the usual Itachi in-depth bullshit and focus on his actual role in the manga as a character there are lots of kage who stand a fighting chance and a few who can surely beat him. Itachi IS kage level but that is as far as his character takes him.

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Hashirama & Tobirama could defeat Itachi. Pure and simple, Tobirama is controversial & can't be 100% proven but it is obvious what level a teleporting, badass hokage water master survivor of the early war Senju would be on.

Minato and Itachi isn't a subject I want to talk about because it's cancerous but Minato without KCM seem pretty matched. Both have hax sh*tty instant jutsu and are made for each other.

Now for the ones who just stand a fighting chance. Like someone said already, A & his father are both incredibly huge on power, speed and stamina so unless Itachi can kill them quick, they will play on Itachi's stamina weakness and could potentially win. Onoki & Muu equally can fly and have catastrophic powers, don't count them out so easily. Hanzo, whilst technically not a Kage (more a demikage) could also defeat Itachi.

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So that's:
3 definite wins
1 tie
4 fighting chances

 

[blazekev90]

Again, analytical skills don't add to intelligence and who said Itachi wasn't using the Sharigan? It clearly shows two-three pages before that he had it activated it's an ability not an intelligence feat

Now you're lying to hype Itachi?!?! He was not blind!!! The was over once he lost ONE eye. These itachi fans i swear they do whatever to to fake a point

 

[sasuke base]

Actually Garra owns Itachi mid-high difficulty

Garra has better intelligence
Itachi has the power
Garra has the distance advantage
Both are versatile
Garra has been shown to handle a few MS techniques
Itachi can own with unexpected genjutsu
Garra has greatee stamina

so someone that cant beat sasuke can beat itachi . one shot from itachi genjustu and he is done.

garra smater than itachi. never

garra only fought sasuke and all he did was amaterasu.

itachi own garra no difficutly

 

[HadouKage]

Now you're lying to hype Itachi?!?! He was not blind!!! The was over once he lost ONE eye. These itachi fans i swear they do whatever to to fake a point

Meh, I just hate when ppl are biased, if you post something, make sure you don't contradict yourself

 

[blazekev90]

so someone that cant beat sasuke can beat itachi . one shot from itachi genjustu and he is done.

garra smater than itachi. never

garra only fought sasuke and all he did was amaterasu.

itachi own garra no difficutly

I'm not entertaining such a post, obviously knowing little of both characters

 

[AGoodBoy]

Hashirama, Mina to, muu, trollkage, mei. These 5 are the only ones who stand a chance and hashi is only definite win, others die more times than not.

Itachi is one of the best of the 2nd strongest clan in history. The uchiha(itachi clan) already shat on all the clans these people are from. They ain't winning easily. Sharing an is OP. Ms is... Oh boy. At least they can thank rikudo he never chose to get ems

 

[Strict]

Muu, Trollkage and Mei will definitely lose. For Mei, the Mangekyo Sharingan isn't even necessary. Minato is Itachi's equal and could beat him under certain circumstances, Hashirama beats Itachi. The other Kage thus far will lose, too. If Itachi is forced to use the Mangekyo Sharingan, most of the Kage will get beaten comfortably.

 

[stoikis]

muu>itachi
his dust realise would destroy him.Also mu can go invisible and the sharingan can't detect him.
Hashirama>itachi no need for explanation.
3rd tsuchikage,second mizukage,minato,3rd raikage,3rd kazekage,4 raikage all these people stands a chance against itachi.

 

[Stark]

The only two Itachi can't beat, Hiruzen and Hashirama.

 

[HiddenSound]

Hashirama would win
Mū, 3rd Raikage, and 3rd Kazekage CAN win. As in, it's very possible that they can win.

 

[blazekev90]

Meh, I just hate when ppl are biased, if you post something, make sure you don't contradict yourself

they're bias as always and once they can't backup what they say they just leave or ignore the argument. So many have done that today, just talking out of their ass lol

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

The only two Itachi can't beat, Hiruzen and Hashirama.

I'm one of the biggest Hiruzen fans on nb but I don't think so
I'm sure Itachi would beat Hiruzen

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Realistically if you don't resort to the usual Itachi in-depth bullshit and focus on his actual role in the manga as a character there are lots of kage who stand a fighting chance and a few who can surely beat him. Itachi IS kage level but that is as far as his character takes him.

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Hashirama & Tobirama could defeat Itachi. Pure and simple, Tobirama is controversial & can't be 100% proven but it is obvious what level a teleporting, badass hokage water master survivor of the early war Senju would be on.

Minato and Itachi isn't a subject I want to talk about because it's cancerous but Minato without KCM seem pretty matched. Both have hax sh*tty instant jutsu and are made for each other.

Now for the ones who just stand a fighting chance. Like someone said already, A & his father are both incredibly huge on power, speed and stamina so unless Itachi can kill them quick, they will play on Itachi's stamina weakness and could potentially win. Onoki & Muu equally can fly and have catastrophic powers, don't count them out so easily. Hanzo, whilst technically not a Kage (more a demikage) could also defeat Itachi.

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So that's:
3 definite wins
1 tie
4 fighting chances

 

[Neonian]

No he isn't :|

 

[aimop95]

3rd Raikage wasn't even scathed by Naruto's RasenShirikan, which is a piercing attack on the cellular level.

Itachi can keep him in a genjutsu but he won't be piercing this guy's skin anytime soon.

I don't even know how the 3rd Raikage ended up completely not hurt at all.