Minato vs Itachi and Kisame

[Unorthodox]

Stopped reading there because you're wrong.

dont know where you minato fans came up with teleporting susanoo off the user and whats really dumb you try to act like its a fact minato cannot teleport things off people also with that logic cant he just warp bm off naruto?

Assuming that on a battlefield already marked everywhere, Kisame would even get the time not only to weave his slow handsigns but use the waterdome technique all that before FTG-instant blitz?

ftg blitz with a kunai or rasengan ribcage blocks everything in minato arsenal also he isnt stoping water dome kisame took v2 Bee like it was nothing v1 bee blew sasuke hole torso off kisame uses water dome Gud nite minato

1. A rasengan from KM Minato will obliterate Kisame. I hope I don't have to post scans but given how powerful SM Naruto and SM Jiraiya's rasengans are, KM Minato will have even stronger ones.

2. Since Minato already has seals prepped everywhere, Itachi won't have a chance at using clones before he gets blitzed.

3. KCM Naruto was just a clone and it has been shown that unlike the likes of A and Minato, Naruto still doesn't have full control over his speed.

@Minato "owning" A and Bee logic: A and Bee back then were very young compared to now. Killer Bee didn't even have mastery with his various jinchuriki transformations while that same A was considered inferior to old Hiruzen.

Current A and Bee will stomp Minato.

As for who wins, well Minato can blitz one of them but then the other would be able to use his jutsu. For example, if Minato chooses to blitz Itachi, Kisame will have enough time to activate water dome where he can chill because if Minato goes in there, he loses his cloak and then Kisame can finish him off underwater. If Minato chooses to blitz Kisame, Itachi will manage to utilize susanoo making Minato's attacks useless. However, KM Minato should be able to at least out last Itachi and avoid all his attacks.

So I say it can go either was 50/50.

1 Rasengan isnt killing itachi or kisame obito took a bm rasengan to the face with no damage done just broke his mask no base rasengan at any level is killing them also kisame is not going to get one shotted he can regenerate like against bee also dont talk about ftg as if it cannot be counterd

Obito was not 14. Kakashi was 14 and Kakashi is some 4 years younger than Obito.

Not only that, age means nothing in Naruto. Obito had the most haxxed MS technique and he still lost.

Character statements mean nothing when facts show us who was better. Are you going to say Jiraiya > Pain because Pain said so?

Thought so.



There's this little thing called plot.

Also if Minato had intended to kill Bee he'd use a Rasengan, not a fking Kunai.

bee was a jinchuriki rasengan isnt killing nor is kunai he can regenerate plus he can use his tailed forms

 

[BlackFlame44]

bee was a jinchuriki rasengan isnt killing nor is kunai he can regenerate plus he can use his tailed forms

O rly? Bee is immortal now?

 

[Wave.]

That's actually sad, you could at least try to act a bit more mature instead of being childish and running off to neg me because you lost and couldn't reply.

Funny you should say that considering you negged me without replying to my comment and probably negged Meido too Lol

Stop being a hypocrite

 

[Shura]

Minato is being underrated here...

Nah... He is being overrated like always.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Nah... He is being overrated like always.

When people claim Itachi and Kisame can win against Minato with both KCM and 1 hour prep Minato being underrated should be the least of your concern.

He beats them with either prep or Kcm, but with those 2 at the same time he simply rapes.

 

[Shura]

When people claim Itachi and Kisame can win against Minato with both KCM and 1 hour prep Minato being underrated should be the least of your concern.

He beats them with either prep or Kcm, but with those 2 at the same time he simply rapes.

Except Itachi is a genius who happens to have a Sharingan which can see the seals and Kisame can absorb or wash them via Water Dome.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Yeah, I don't agree with your premise.

Obviously, many other ninja could not only do what Minato did

but do it better. Itachi is among those ninja, given that he can straight-control Kurama.

And Kishimoto made it clear that an adult Obito wasn't willing to risk a skirmish with Itachi.

Let alone the real big players like Hashirama, Madara, etc.

Thing is, Obito never went for the straight up approach. He went for a sneak attack. For anyone else, it would of ended here [

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]. While dealing with the fox, Obito could of been able to warp just about anyone. Only Minato has shown the capabilities to avoid Kamui while in use. Face it, even Itachi would of been warped.

Your hate towards Minato is understandable though, it is for most rival fans.

 

[Joki]

Funny you should say that considering you negged me without replying to my comment and probably negged Meido too Lol

Stop being a hypocrite

You already admitted you were wrong, and why would I reply to your posts that were directed at someone else? I hadn't even posted.

Last I checked I never called you a ***** and then ran away from responding after you raped me ITT, or attempted to mislead people out of desperation like my good man Lilt here. You hsould look up what hypocrisy means.

 

[Arikk Techa]

Ima have to say Minato because Minato beat Obito and Obito was stronger then Kisame and Itachi not to mention that Minato beat the Nine-Tails

 

[Lilt]

Why are you afraid of admitting you're wrong? After purposely posting OOC scans to fool people into believing a claim

I didn't fool anybody into anything. Bee saved A from Hiraishin with a tentacle. Itachi can save Kisame.

Bee countered Hiraishin with a sword, making it a stalemate. Itachi is even more intelligent so can do so as well.

Minato only has Hiraishin, so fans have to wank that jutsu hard.

But Itachi has several jutsu that are as good as Hiraishin, and is more talented than Minato overall...

Obito was not 14. Kakashi was 14 and Kakashi is some 4 years younger than Obito.

Not only that, age means nothing in Naruto. Obito had the most haxxed MS technique and he still lost.

Character statements mean nothing when facts show us who was better. Are you going to say Jiraiya > Pain because Pain said so?

Thought so.



There's this little thing called plot.

I can actually meet you halfway and agree with you here. So in the context of plot,

do you really believe Minato would "stomp" Itachi, let alone Itachi with backup?

Maybe Kisame, but Itachi's way, way too important to the author.

 

[Lilt]

Thing is, Obito never went for the straight up approach. He went for a sneak attack. For anyone else, it would of ended here [

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]. While dealing with the fox, Obito could of been able to warp just about anyone. Only Minato has shown the capabilities to avoid Kamui while in use. Face it, even Itachi would of been warped.

And for some reason, Obito didn't warp Minato as fast as possible, allowing him to escape.

This goes with Pati's point about plot.

If the 100% speed Kamui lands from a sneak attack, then nobody, including Minato, is winning.

But in fair circumstances (no ambush) then many ninja can counter Kamui. And besides that, ABC logic doesn't work.

Itachi can easily beat opponents Minato can't, just because his jutsu match up better.

Obito is a case where Hiraishin is more useful.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

It's arguable Itachi solos, adding Kisame is just a stomp

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

And for some reason, Obito didn't warp Minato as fast as possible, allowing him to escape.

This goes with Pati's point about plot.

If the 100% speed Kamui lands from a sneak attack, then nobody, including Minato, is winning.

But in fair circumstances (no ambush) then many ninja can counter Kamui. And besides that, ABC logic doesn't work.

Itachi can easily beat opponents Minato can't, just because his jutsu match up better.

Obito is a case where Hiraishin is more useful.

It doesn't matter how fast he decided to warp Minato. No one else, regardless of Kamui's speed, is able to escape it while it's in use.

Safe to say, Izanami was also for plots sake. No complaints here, we shouldn't play the plot card.

And who's fault is that? Obito underestimated the Hokage, and his mistake led to his defeat. Minato was able to effectively counter Kamui the first time, which was my initial point, in which I went on to state anyone else would have gotten beat right there and then, which is true, as everyone else lacks the means to counter Kamui while it's literally a second from taking you to the dimension.

Yeah, in normal circumstances. Shame though, these weren't normal circumstances.

And this has nothing to do with anything.

So it's safe to say he's best suited for this fight.

 

[Lilt]

And this has nothing to do with anything.

Yes, it does, actually. Minato's jutsu can escape Kamui in use, so he's better than Itachi?

Yet Itachi's jutsu can counter Yamata/Cerberus/Hōzuki‎/Hachibi/etc. and Minato can't.

Hence it shows the argument is poor. It's ABC and pointless in the thread's match.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Yes, it does, actually. Minato's jutsu can escape Kamui in use, so he's better than Itachi?

Yet Itachi's jutsu can counter Yamata/Cerberus/Hōzuki‎/Hachibi/etc. and Minato can't.

Hence it shows the argument is poor. It's ABC and pointless in the thread's match.

Oh wow, I don't remember saying he's better than Itachi, do you? What I was merely pointing out is, you're discrediting pretty much everything Minato did that night, while you should at least hand the guy some credit when credit is due. In no way did I even try and prove Minato > Itachi, as actually, I know that Itachi would beat Minato. Changing the subject will do you no good. Why even bring up who Itachi can counter? I was just proving to you that should Obito have followed through with his sneak attack on anyone else that night, they would have lost, which is why you shouldn't discredit anything when even Itachi would of been gone.

 

[Red Slayer]

Minato=>Itachi
Minato>>Kisame

Itachi+Kisame>>Minato

 

[Lilt]

Oh wow, I don't remember saying he's better than Itachi, do you? What I was merely pointing out is, you're discrediting pretty much everything Minato did that night, while you should at least hand the guy some credit when credit is due.

So are you agreeing or disagreeing that escaping Kamui in that fight has no relevance whatsoever in this thread?

I agree that only Hiraishin would counter that precise situation, but it's not relevant...

 

[Wave.]

You already admitted you were wrong, and why would I reply to your posts that were directed at someone else? I hadn't even posted.

Last I checked I never called you a ***** and then ran away from responding after you raped me ITT, or attempted to mislead people out of desperation like my good man Lilt here. You hsould look up what hypocrisy means.

You negged before I admitted and didn't reply at all, it was Megan Terumi. You also told Lilt to be mature and don't neg rep and run because you couldn't reply, what did you exactly do neg rep and didn't reply Lol.

Neither did I :|, lol you didn't even respond the first place. You are a hypocrite, you didn't like Lilt neg repping you and not replying to you, you neg repped me and did not reply to me Lol

But who cares its just rep XD

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

So are you agreeing or disagreeing that escaping Kamui in that fight has no relevance whatsoever in this thread?

I agree that only Hiraishin would counter that precise situation, but it's not relevant...

It's not relevant, I just thought I should stop the underrating. Yeah, Minato has some annoying fans, but still... anyways, Minato gets annihilated in this fight.

 

[xcoyote]

Yeah, I don't agree with your premise.

Obviously, many other ninja could not only do what Minato did

but do it better. Itachi is among those ninja, given that he can straight-control Kurama.

And Kishimoto made it clear that an adult Obito wasn't willing to risk a skirmish with Itachi.

Let alone the real big players like Hashirama, Madara, etc.

he had 9 years,they were in the same organization..Itachi couldnt touch Obito.