Minato vs Itachi and Kisame

Lilt

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Are you retarded?

Do you honestly think either Itachi or Kisame can react to -INSTANT- speed?

Please tell me you're joking, because that's simply ridiculous.

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Bee countered Hiraishin with a tentacle, then a sword. So chill, fanboy.
 

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FTG made Obito Minato's *****? Lol @ Minato fans, when Minato himself was on ropes and declared that Obito saw through his every move. His win was a luck affair and a gamble rather than actual strategy. Leave it to Minato fans to blow his crap out of proportions.
 

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FTG made Obito Minato's *****? Lol @ Minato fans, when Minato himself was on ropes and declared that Obito saw through his every move. His win was a luck affair and a gamble rather than actual strategy. Leave it to Minato fans to blow his crap out of proportions.

Not to mention Obito didn't actually lose, given that his summon resulted in Minato's death, Kushina's death, etc.

And that Obito's injury to his Zetsu-body was easily replaced (just as it was with Fuu, Torrune, Konan, and Itachi.)

Plus Obito was a kid (14?) so his reflexes were likely slower back then, and his strategy was definitely rougher.

But yeah. Minato fans and their "Minato blitzes herpa lerpa derpa" arguments get old.
 

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Not to mention Obito didn't actually lose, given that his summon resulted in Minato's death, Kushina's death, etc.

And that Obito's injury to his Zetsu-body was easily replaced (just as it was with Fuu, Torrune, Konan, and Itachi.)

Plus Obito was a kid (14?) so his reflexes were likely slower back then, and his strategy was definitely rougher.

But yeah. Minato fans and their "Minato blitzes herpa lerpa derpa" arguments get old.

Not only that, he was obviously there to expedite the whole 'Uchiha conflict' that resulted in their massacre later. He didn't want anyone to be able to break free of the eternal genjutsu. Not to mention spare Sharingans for his cause. He accomplished what he came for.

Exactly. Obito was only 14, physically enhanced by 2 years perhaps after zetsu merged with his body and even then, Minato was literally on ropes. He had to utilize FTG twice to escape and just gambled on a split second earlier strategy to win. Even then, according to Minato himself, Obito's FTG was superior. Now I can only imagine how far Obito has progressed.

They get annoying and old.
 

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Not only that, he was obviously there to expedite the whole 'Uchiha conflict' that resulted in their massacre later. He didn't want anyone to be able to break free of the eternal genjutsu. Not to mention spare Sharingans for his cause. He accomplished what he came for.

Exactly. Obito was only 14, physically enhanced by 2 years perhaps after zetsu merged with his body and even then, Minato was literally on ropes. He had to utilize FTG twice to escape and just gambled on a split second earlier strategy to win. Even then, according to Minato himself, Obito's FTG was superior. Now I can only imagine how far Obito has progressed.

They get annoying and old.

Not to mention Obito didn't actually lose, given that his summon resulted in Minato's death, Kushina's death, etc.

And that Obito's injury to his Zetsu-body was easily replaced (just as it was with Fuu, Torrune, Konan, and Itachi.)

Plus Obito was a kid (14?) so his reflexes were likely slower back then, and his strategy was definitely rougher.

But yeah. Minato fans and their "Minato blitzes herpa lerpa derpa" arguments get old.

Well, given anyone else would of lost in that scenario, try and give the man at least some credit...
 

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Bee countered Hiraishin with a tentacle, then a sword. So chill, fanboy.

I wasn't going to post but I was lurking, and by Jiraiya's mane, the retardedry. Please read the page before that before posting an out of context scan when Minato says hi to KB before he has a chance to react and then pulls out his sword.

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There was also the part where he hit Obito with rasengan the instant after he teleported and didn't stop with a kunai behind his head to say something to him, and a load of other things. The opposing argument is sickeningly weak for who are being called Minato fanboys.

I digress, I didn't come to argue on the match on account the "Minato fanboys" already tore the opposition a new one. But posting a scan that out of context is really low and it saddens me that you were losing so badly you had to demean yourself by posting it.
 

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Edit: Sasuke got owned by A, Itachi would have difficulty with him too
Not really the Sasuke who fought A only had rib cage susanoo and wasn't experienced at using the MS. Even still, A lost an arm in that fight but what exactly did Sasuke lose?
Kisame is way too durable
a rasengan won't kill him
Itachi is a crown clone user
also he's speed matched KCM Naruto
I doubt Minato can "speedblitz" him
there's no much difference imo
people tend to overrate Minato
ofc he's faster than Itachi but not by miles like fanboys believe (same case as A all his fanboys believe he can speedblitz everyone)
1. A rasengan from KM Minato will obliterate Kisame. I hope I don't have to post scans but given how powerful SM Naruto and SM Jiraiya's rasengans are, KM Minato will have even stronger ones.

2. Since Minato already has seals prepped everywhere, Itachi won't have a chance at using clones before he gets blitzed.

3. KCM Naruto was just a clone and it has been shown that unlike the likes of A and Minato, Naruto still doesn't have full control over his speed.

@Minato "owning" A and Bee logic: A and Bee back then were very young compared to now. Killer Bee didn't even have mastery with his various jinchuriki transformations while that same A was considered inferior to old Hiruzen.

Current A and Bee will stomp Minato.

As for who wins, well Minato can blitz one of them but then the other would be able to use his jutsu. For example, if Minato chooses to blitz Itachi, Kisame will have enough time to activate water dome where he can chill because if Minato goes in there, he loses his cloak and then Kisame can finish him off underwater. If Minato chooses to blitz Kisame, Itachi will manage to utilize susanoo making Minato's attacks useless. However, KM Minato should be able to at least out last Itachi and avoid all his attacks.

So I say it can go either was 50/50.
 

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This is basically why it's pointless to argue with Minato fans.

Really? Because no one in this thread has given me a decent response and the only guy who did basically admitted that Minato wins. Also, I'm not even that big a fan of Minato, so think before you post rude shit.

@Ice Sasuke was forced to use Susanoo on A because he got overwhelmed. A just lost an arm because he was being rash.
 

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Really? Because no one in this thread has given me a decent response and the only guy who did basically admitted that Minato wins. Also, I'm not even that big a fan of Minato, so think before you post rude shit.

@Ice Sasuke was forced to use Susanoo on A because he got overwhelmed. A just lost an arm because he was being rash.
So if Sasuke was forced to use Susanoo, that means that Sasuke was losing the fight? Well current Sasuke would probably have to use susanoo against A as well but by no means is it a high difficulty or even mid difficulty fight for him.
 

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Minato mid-high diff.
It's literally impossible for him to get trapped, he has tags all over the place to flash to, has top teir reflexes and can easily open a seal behind someone to repel an attack, and knows better than to look in to a Uchiha's eyes. If he ever gets caught in the water dome, he can just flash right out.

Not to mention BM, which is just overkill.
 

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So if Sasuke was forced to use Susanoo, that means that Sasuke was losing the fight? Well current Sasuke would probably have to use susanoo against A as well but by no means is it a high difficulty or even mid difficulty fight for him.

Yes, Sasuke would have died if he didn't use Susanoo.
 

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So how exactly did Sasuke get owned by A?

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And if it wasn't for Enton and Susanoo he would have died here:
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And if it wasn't for Enton and Susanoo he would have died here:
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Well since he protected himself, he most certainly did not get owned by A.

Going by this logic, Tsunade gets owned by any jounin level who can push her to use regeneration.
 

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Well since he protected himself, he most certainly did not get owned by A.

Going by this logic, Tsunade gets owned by any jounin level who can push her to use regeneration.

Okay. Let's use different wording. He was pushed to his limits by A.
 

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Well, given anyone else would of lost in that scenario, try and give the man at least some credit...

Yeah, I don't agree with your premise.

Obviously, many other ninja could not only do what Minato did

but do it better. Itachi is among those ninja, given that he can straight-control Kurama.

And Kishimoto made it clear that an adult Obito wasn't willing to risk a skirmish with Itachi.

Let alone the real big players like Hashirama, Madara, etc.
 

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Yeah, I don't agree with your premise.

Obviously, many other ninja could not only do what Minato did

but do it better. Itachi is among those ninja, given that he can straight-control Kurama.

And Kishimoto made it clear that an adult Obito wasn't willing to risk a skirmish with Itachi.

Let alone the real big players like Hashirama, Madara, etc.
Why are you afraid of admitting you're wrong? After purposely posting OOC scans to fool people into believing a claim that was blatantly wrong I didn't think you could sink much lower, color me shocked.

Avoiding Minato supporters' posts and resorting to calling me a ***** in private because you can't counter? That's actually sad, you could at least try to act a bit more mature instead of being childish and running off to neg me because you lost and couldn't reply.

Although after reading your recent post history, I guess you have no intention of replying in the first place. You just want a place to wank to your favorite character which is understandable, it's only natural you'd never admit he loses at anything despite how completely obvious it may be. Like ya know, being the greatest water user in the manga or soloing a full powered Sannin in base while sick or something retarded like that.
 

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Not only that, he was obviously there to expedite the whole 'Uchiha conflict' that resulted in their massacre later. He didn't want anyone to be able to break free of the eternal genjutsu. Not to mention spare Sharingans for his cause. He accomplished what he came for.

Exactly. Obito was only 14, physically enhanced by 2 years perhaps after zetsu merged with his body and even then, Minato was literally on ropes. He had to utilize FTG twice to escape and just gambled on a split second earlier strategy to win. Even then, according to Minato himself, Obito's FTG was superior. Now I can only imagine how far Obito has progressed.

They get annoying and old.

Obito was not 14. Kakashi was 14 and Kakashi is some 4 years younger than Obito.

Not only that, age means nothing in Naruto. Obito had the most haxxed MS technique and he still lost.

Character statements mean nothing when facts show us who was better. Are you going to say Jiraiya > Pain because Pain said so?

Thought so.

Bee countered Hiraishin with a tentacle, then a sword. So chill, fanboy.

There's this little thing called plot.

Also if Minato had intended to kill Bee he'd use a Rasengan, not a fking Kunai.
 
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