[Question] Can, Luffy Beat Doflamingo?

[Vampy]

You're the one who made the thread, so rename it.

And no, I'm not saying they would because of luck. There are so many inconceivable intangibles in even the real world, this is a manga where human restrictions aren't a problem to most, so the intangibles expand immensely. There are many ways people could win a fight against Doflamingo without luck. If you can't see that, then too bad.

Tell me an example of a fight between, Hody and Doflamingo then since you seem to think there's a way for him to beat him.

If you can't then you're just yapping crap.

I'll put an example according to what you just said as well.

Like, Perona. She's weaker than, Doflamingo but if she uses her ghost she can put him in negative mode and get close and stab him in the heart.
That what you mean? If not then go ahead and give me an example of hody VS Doflamingo. I don't see it happening.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

Tell me an example of a fight between, Hody and Doflamingo then since you seem to think there's a way for him to beat him.

If you can't then you're just yapping crap.

I'll put an example according to what you just said as well.

Like, Perona. She's weaker than, Doflamingo but if she uses her ghost she can put him in negative mode and get close and stab him in the heart.
That what you mean? If not then go ahead and give me an example of hody VS Doflamingo. I don't see it happening.

How is this so hard to grasp? Everyone stands a chance against anyone. That's a fundamental fact. The chances of Hody defeating Doflamingo is like 1% or something, probably less. But that still means he CAN defeat him.

And yeah, the Perona thing can be an example.

 

[Vampy]

How is this so hard to grasp? Everyone stands a chance against anyone. That's a fundamental fact. The chances of Hody defeating Doflamingo is like 1% or something, probably less. But that still means he CAN defeat him.

And yeah, the Perona thing can be an example.

That's hilarious. I feel bad for anyone who gets their ass kicked by someone with that %.
You must also remember that there are other % to include and % their opponents have. Defeat % isn't the only one.

Depending on all the other % it can be the meaning of possible or impossible.
It's a fact that if, Hody fought, Doflamingo he would lose.

Luffy's, chances of death never go down to 0% according to, Hawkins.
I'm telling you this, Luffy has a 100% chance of defeating, Doflamingo. It's not real life.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

That's hilarious. I feel bad for anyone who gets their ass kicked by someone with that %.
You must also remember that there are other % to include and % their opponents have. Defeat % isn't the only one.

Depending on all the other % it can be the meaning of possible or impossible.
It's a fact that if, Hody fought, Doflamingo he would lose.

Luffy's, chances of death never go down to 0% according to, Hawkins.
I'm telling you this, Luffy has a 100% chance of defeating, Doflamingo. It's not real life.

It's a fact that Hody would have an extremely small chance of losing.

And wtf? Of course there is a 100% possibility of Luffy defeating Doflamingo. But there isn't a 100% that he would win.

 

[Vampy]

It's a fact that Hody would have an extremely small chance of losing.

And wtf? Of course there is a 100% possibility of Luffy defeating Doflamingo. But there isn't a 100% that he would win.

Oh wow... I'm done talking with you for now. You're really weird.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

Oh wow... I'm done talking with you for now. You're really weird.

And you're really stupid. Good night.

 

[The 1 who knows]

why do people underate momonga.........that guy is bad ass

 

[Vampy]

why do people underate momonga.........that guy is bad ass

And when did anyone do that?

 

[silmarill]

I think he will before the end of this arc have "kicked his ass"^^
He wants to take down one of the yonko right? there obviously has to be a step between before doing that, first u crawl then u walk.
The best way for Oda too show us how much hes grown is to let him fight a warlord of Dof calliber.
Everything points in that direction, Luffy before the arc will end has to defeat a top tier opponent as it has always been, the one walking around now and terrorising everyone is Doflamingo, Luffy will learn him who is boss in a 1 on 1 showdown

 

[Anduril]

I don't know why.... but people are underestimating the straw-hats a lot.....

I think I am the only one who thinks Luffy atm is just below the Yonkou level.

If you take hints from the manga.... you will see that after arriving at dressrosa the way Oda split the strawhat pirates, the Strongest 5 went together leaving the other 2 groups weirdly underpowered. Either that or the strawhat powerup is really something. Many things have made it clear. For example tashigi's alarming comment after she saw zoro fight....

"Just what have the strawhats been doing these 2 years??!!"

You see tashigi should have been used to watching highly skilled people fight (Being smokers right hand and all), yet the amazement she showed indicated that she had never seen anyone so strong to be overwhelming.

So I will put it this way, Luffy beats Dofla - But it will not be a cakewalk. (He will perhaps have to reveal a few more of his cards and it will only be because of Dofla's DF ability).

And here is how I scale power ranks....we will begin with highest and descend to the lowest,

1. Yonkou - BB, Shanks, Kaidou, Big Mam, Akainu (After timeskip). (This purely dependant on their current fighting strength and nothing else)
2. Elite Shichibukai - Luffy, Mihawk, Doflamingo, Aokiji (After timeskip), Garp and Rayleigh (only because they are old and this is after another 2 years have passed during which they are not getting any younger). (Also these are unnaturally strong people even for the shichibukai order)
3. Admiral/Shichibukai - Kizaru (Before timeskip), Zoro, Law, Jinbei, Fujitora, Kuma etc. (I am not including Boa for obvious reasons )
4. Below Par Shichibukai - Crocodile, Sanji, Moria.
5. Vice Admirals - Cyborg Franky, Kinemon, Smoker (I think he was only working on improving his rank by capturing tons of pirates and neglected his training), Momonga (Before timeskip), Doberman (Also before timeskip level)
6. Captain - Brook, Chopper, Usopp.

I did not include Nami and Robin because I don't think they are meant to be frontline fighters and most likely would avoid a fight unless they are pushed to the corner
Also all the strawhats are after TS.

 

[Vampy]

I think he will before the end of this arc have "kicked his ass"^^
He wants to take down one of the yonko right? there obviously has to be a step between before doing that, first u crawl then u walk.
The best way for Oda too show us how much hes grown is to let him fight a warlord of Dof calliber.
Everything points in that direction, Luffy before the arc will end has to defeat a top tier opponent as it has always been, the one walking around now and terrorising everyone is Doflamingo, Luffy will learn him who is boss in a 1 on 1 showdown

Exactly. I'm glad someone can share my thoughts. Doflamingo, is a stepping stone for, Luffy's dream. People just need to stop underestimating the, Straw-Hat Pirates. They are the main part of the damn story. Some actually think, Doflamingo will stay undefeated and chase after them through 1-2 more arcs and shit like that. That would only happen if they ran away from him and that makes no sense because, Luffy doesn't run. He's not a coward and he has a whole lot of fighting pride.

I don't know why.... but people are underestimating the straw-hats a lot.....

I think I am the only one who thinks Luffy atm is just below the Yonkou level.

If you take hints from the manga.... you will see that after arriving at dressrosa the way Oda split the strawhat pirates, the Strongest 5 went together leaving the other 2 groups weirdly underpowered. Either that or the strawhat powerup is really something. Many things have made it clear. For example tashigi's alarming comment after she saw zoro fight....

"Just what have the strawhats been doing these 2 years??!!"

You see tashigi should have been used to watching highly skilled people fight (Being smokers right hand and all), yet the amazement she showed indicated that she had never seen anyone so strong to be overwhelming.

So I will put it this way, Luffy beats Dofla - But it will not be a cakewalk. (He will perhaps have to reveal a few more of his cards and it will only be because of Dofla's DF ability).

And here is how I scale power ranks....we will begin with highest and descend to the lowest,

1. Yonkou - BB, Shanks, Kaidou, Big Mam, Akainu (After timeskip). (This purely dependant on their current fighting strength and nothing else)
2. Elite Shichibukai - Luffy, Mihawk, Doflamingo, Aokiji (After timeskip), Garp and Rayleigh (only because they are old and this is after another 2 years have passed during which they are not getting any younger). (Also these are unnaturally strong people even for the shichibukai order)
3. Admiral/Shichibukai - Kizaru (Before timeskip), Zoro, Law, Jinbei, Fujitora, Kuma etc. (I am not including Boa for obvious reasons )
4. Below Par Shichibukai - Crocodile, Sanji, Moria.
5. Vice Admirals - Cyborg Franky, Kinemon, Smoker (I think he was only working on improving his rank by capturing tons of pirates and neglected his training), Momonga (Before timeskip), Doberman (Also before timeskip level)
6. Captain - Brook, Chopper, Usopp.

I did not include Nami and Robin because I don't think they are meant to be frontline fighters and most likely would avoid a fight unless they are pushed to the corner
Also all the strawhats are after TS.

I believe that, Luffy is at a low admiral's level, possibly mid. Zoro, is always close behind, Luffy.
You've also made some good points that most people who read the manga don't think much about. Their brains are mostly interested in what's happening and they miss many details. I also can't blame them for having a sharp mind and not seeing things clearly.

Also, keep in mind that we are half way through, One Piece. If, Luffy is as close as you say he is to the yonko in power then things may go too fast. Oda, seems to enjoy taking his time writing the story and such.

Also, I think that, Usopp may possibly gain a bounty of 100Mil or more. As for, Nami I'd say 70Mil+ It would be very fitting IMO and I would enjoy that. Nami, hasn't advanced much physically but she has still improved her physical power but I'm not sure by how much. Proof of that you can see in the current arcs and compared to the ones before.
As for, Robin, I'm sure she has advanced quite a lot. She has shown some pretty interesting feats though I'm sure most people haven't noticed.

 

[Bobby Brown]

because he's the man that would become the pirate king

Proof or GTFO.

 

[TheHokage]

Tough choice, We haven't seen much of Luffy's true strength, I mean when he gets serious he can literally one shot a strong Logia user without gear 2nd.

While on the other hand we haven't seen much of Doflamingo either other than him destroying Smoker and fighting on what seemed to be even terms with Crocodile during the war, however he is below Admiral level shown by the fact he fled from Aokiji.

I think when it comes down to it Luffy will beat him but it'll be one of those battles that leaves Luffy exhausted and worn out to the point where he'll barely be able to move sort of like his battle with Lucci.

 

[Hexuze]

No he'll get smashed as of right now. Luffy doesn't even know the extent of Doflamingo's power but I'm sure Doflamingo does. Plus pre-ts Doflamingo handled Jozu with just a single twitch with his fingers, he could of easily ripped off his arms. I really don't see them fighting this early on from the ts and even if they do Doflamingo will kick Luffy's ass. I believe he'll get defeated after the next time skip (yes I think there is a another one) and Doflamingo wants to be pirate king so for all we know it could possibly be his final opponent (just throwing it out there).

 

[Anduril]

No he'll get smashed as of right now. Luffy doesn't even know the extent of Doflamingo's power but I'm sure Doflamingo does. Plus pre-ts Doflamingo handled Jozu with just a single twitch with his fingers, he could of easily ripped off his arms. I really don't see them fighting this early on from the ts and even if they do Doflamingo will kick Luffy's ass. I believe he'll get defeated after the next time skip (yes I think there is a another one) and Doflamingo wants to be pirate king so for all we know it could possibly be his final opponent (just throwing it out there).

Just quoting it out here

 

[ArabianLuffy]

This is not fair just by answering "Yes" or "No". Someone must put all they had of their imaginations on words. Yo have to be full detailed and describe how Dressrosa will end. It's Doflamingo we're talking about here. The worst part of the whole arc is if it happened one of the StrawHats or their allies got a limb or two cut by Doflamingo's abilities.

Doflamingo's DF is the worst part Law and Luffy will face, and I'm not gonna say haki this and haki that.

I don't know about Luffy's pride as fighter/warrior. Sure he fought many battles alone. If it came to pride, I dunno if battles against Oz and PX before time-skip are counted. Oh! Luffy's pride. He fought with fellows against one enemy.

I don't know what's gonna happen in ch 712. Law is in serious trouble. Doflamingo from there and Fujitora from other side over there. Well, Law is totally fukd. Saving his full stamina for Doflamingo and now he has to deal with Fujitora too.

I think "The Main Event Of All Main Events In Future Chapters":

Spoiler

Luffy vs Doflamingo duh!
Zoro vs Fujitora (I hope so)

 

[VongolaX]

Well considering the fact that doflamingo is one of the strong original schibukai (Mihawk, Kuma, and Crocodile) It's kind of hard to believe luffy can beat him...

But by comparing doflamingo's ability to luffy, i kind of find it hard of doflamingo's ability doing any significant damage to strawhat....Especially Zoro.

Luffy seems to show the strongest sign of armors haki, since he covered a whole two giant arm in haki. Meaning doflamingo's wires/strings aren't going to severe luffy.

 

[Shisui Senju]

I personally don't believe so but his new powers haven't been tested fully yet so we don't know. If Oda has not given us donflamingos powers yet it must be really strong

 

[Vampy]

No he'll get smashed as of right now. Luffy doesn't even know the extent of Doflamingo's power but I'm sure Doflamingo does. Plus pre-ts Doflamingo handled Jozu with just a single twitch with his fingers, he could of easily ripped off his arms. I really don't see them fighting this early on from the ts and even if they do Doflamingo will kick Luffy's ass. I believe he'll get defeated after the next time skip (yes I think there is a another one) and Doflamingo wants to be pirate king so for all we know it could possibly be his final opponent (just throwing it out there).

Jozu, was one of the weakest. Doflamingo, doesn't even know the extent of, Luffy's power. YOU don't know the extent of, Luffy's power. We know EVERYTHING about, Luffy except for the massive power he has been keeping hidden all this time. Does it make sense that, Luffy would run from, Doflamingo so much that it takes 1-2 more arcs for him to take him down? Luffy, is going to finish things in dressrosa. Doflamingo, isn't going to let, Luffy escape. I know it's tough for you guys to not be able to figure it out with your lack of details, but you must remember who we're talking about. When it comes to being special, Luffy has, Doflamingo beat by 100%
And why the hell would there be another timeskip? That was for half of the series. There isn't going to be one. You must think, Doflamingo has some godly power if you think he's that tough.

Just from seeing that you think it's going to take a TS for, Luffy to defeat him, I'll let you figure it out. Oh and one hint for you about that TS. Check out, Luffy's clothing and look at Madam Shyarly's prevision.

This is not fair just by answering "Yes" or "No". Someone must put all they had of their imaginations on words. Yo have to be full detailed and describe how Dressrosa will end. It's Doflamingo we're talking about here. The worst part of the whole arc is if it happened one of the StrawHats or their allies got a limb or two cut by Doflamingo's abilities.

Doflamingo's DF is the worst part Law and Luffy will face, and I'm not gonna say haki this and haki that.

I don't know about Luffy's pride as fighter/warrior. Sure he fought many battles alone. If it came to pride, I dunno if battles against Oz and PX before time-skip are counted. Oh! Luffy's pride. He fought with fellows against one enemy.

I don't know what's gonna happen in ch 712. Law is in serious trouble. Doflamingo from there and Fujitora from other side over there. Well, Law is totally fukd. Saving his full stamina for Doflamingo and now he has to deal with Fujitora too.

I think "The Main Event Of All Main Events In Future Chapters":

Spoiler

Luffy vs Doflamingo duh!
Zoro vs Fujitora (I hope so)

Oda, has given us plenty of information and insight that he's about to reveal, Doflamingo's true power. Why? Because, Luffy is about to fight him. Doflamingo's devil fruit and all will be revealed.

He's one of their top, Warlords. I'm expecting, Mihawk to be the strongest out of all 7.

The thing you must notice here is how the WG will feel when they find out that their 7 warlords can't even handle the SH pirates. Them and you people who don't believe in the power of, Luffy will be shocked. I honestly hope that you guys feel how weak you are in the department of details. This arc is the key to the SH pirates reputation. We're going to find out how much of a threat they are now. They aren't just some rookies anymore, so keep that in mind. Doflamingo, is going down in this arc and that's that. He's nothing more than an old power who has now become a stepping stone for the SH pirates.

 

[Ryutsu]

he won't beat him that easily..