Zabuza can make his own water

[Draphsin]

Please, Zabuza's and Kakashi's were clearly bigger. I don't care if Zabuza had a water source, he has a lot of chakra, having a 4/5 for it in the data book. Kakashi was able to use his Sharingan a lot in part 1 and he only had a 3/5 in the data book. Zabuza obviously has enough chakra to make his own water and use Water Dragon Jutsu.

His siuton without a water souce is weaker. He uses his chakra to control the water, just as sasuke did with kirin, however its shown that sasuke needs very little chakra in order to successfully use it, so this doesnt prove that zabuza had lots of chakra.

Mei only needs 1 handsign too, zabuza needs 40+

Also, calling their dragons weak is just stupid. Look how huge Kakashi's and Zabuza's dragon is, u don't even have to compare it to Mei's to see it's a powerful jutsu.

As I said, zabuza had water. Also the size of both of their jutsus is extremely similar, the only difference is that mei used her own water.

 

[Klaroline]

Never thought I would see a Zabuza fanboy.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

So, you're saying that Zabuza can do something that any random fodder could do? Not impressive Lol

Actually yes I am because people say he can't do it even when it is so simple

so how is Tobirama one of the greatest suiton users?

The Anbu complimented Tobirama for using Water Wall right? Well here in part 2 Kishi had random fodders using the same technique.

Kishi obviously changed his mind about the use of Suiton

His siuton without a water souce is weaker. He uses his chakra to control the water, just as sasuke did with kirin, however its shown that sasuke needs very little chakra in order to successfully use it, so this doesnt prove that zabuza had lots of chakra.

Mei only needs 1 handsign too, zabuza needs 40+

As I said, zabuza had water. Also the size of both of their jutsus is extremely similar, the only difference is that mei used her own water.

When did I say it proved Zabuza has a lot of chakra? I said the DATA BOOK proves he has a lot of chakra.

Unless Mei did handsings off scan. I mean, when do u really see handsigns used often in the manga anymore? Kishi just doesn't show them as much as he used to

Both of Zabuza's battles were with a source nearby so why would he create his own water?
I mean comon he barely has gotten a chance to show he could.

Never thought I would see a Zabuza fanboy.

No one cares what u thought

 

[Draphsin]

When did I say it proved Zabuza has a lot of chakra? I said the DATA BOOK proves he has a lot of chakra.

Really?

Unless Mei did handsings off scan. I mean, when do u really see handsigns used often in the manga anymore? Kishi just doesn't show them as much as he used to

Tobirama needed 1 handsign for his suiton (part 1), you cant ignore the fact that it took zabuza multiple handsigns to perform his jutsu. Itachi was even able to perform a suiton jutsu with just 1 handsign (probably because he a proficient suiton user as well). For the jutsu that zabuza used, he required those handsigns, tell me how mei would find time to throw in 40+ handsigns during madara's fight, she's obviously a proficient suiton user as she is the mizukage.

Both of Zabuza's battles were with a source nearby so why would he create his own water?
I mean comon he barely has gotten a chance to show he could.

Yes, but what im saying is that the scale of those suiton jutsus are larger than they normally would be. Of course if you're near a water source you water is going to be larger, just look at gaara in the desert.

 

[magus zeal]

i can make my own water too its called suiton piss in a cup jutsu

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

Zabuza is long gone lol why worry about him

 

[Draegod]

Being a Zabuza fan im surprised you didnt know he has already achieved the feat of creating water from the air with his chakra...

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With no water source near he created water. Fact of the manga!

Thread closed!

 

[Draegod]

Im surprised im the only person who stated this or noticed it.

P.s. Im a big Zabuza Fan!

 

[MadamHorror]

Wouldn't you assume if you're a MIST ninja, known for using MIST in your attacks, which is MADE OUT OF WATER, and can create WATER clones that, even though we saw him use mist and clones used near water that first time, that such a water expert would be able to create it like the lesser ninja that came from puddles? I dunno, maybe its just me...

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Really?

Yeah man, really

Tobirama needed 1 handsign for his suiton (part 1), you cant ignore the fact that it took zabuza multiple handsigns to perform his jutsu. Itachi was even able to perform a suiton jutsu with just 1 handsign (probably because he a proficient suiton user as well). For the jutsu that zabuza used, he required those handsigns, tell me how mei would find time to throw in 40+ handsigns during madara's fight, she's obviously a proficient suiton user as she is the mizukage.

Hell yeah she's proficient with Suiton. Zabuza has a 4/5 for hand seals in the data book which is the second highest in the Akatsuki. I think Kishi made the tech have a lot of signs to show how well Kakashi can copy signs.

Yes, but what im saying is that the scale of those suiton jutsus are larger than they normally would be. Of course if you're near a water source you water is going to be larger, just look at gaara in the desert.

I know but even though it's speculation, I think it's highly probable that Zabuza can make around the same size of Suiton Mei can. I mean, Zabuza revolves around Suiton, Mei doesn't. She has other KG to focus on so it would be understandable if Zabuza was a better Suiton user. Mei is still stronger than him though

i can make my own water too its called suiton piss in a cup jutsu

hahahahaha

Zabuza is long gone lol why worry about him

He is still in my heart man, and my left ventricle

Being a Zabuza fan im surprised you didnt know he has already achieved the feat of creating water from the air with his chakra...

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With no water source near he created water. Fact of the manga!

Thread closed!

I'm talking about making water in the liquid state, not gas.

He obviously can make water in the liquid state

Wouldn't you assume if you're a MIST ninja, known for using MIST in your attacks, which is MADE OUT OF WATER, and can create WATER clones that, even though we saw him use mist and clones used near water that first time, that such a water expert would be able to create it like the lesser ninja that came from puddles? I dunno, maybe its just me...

Exactly thank you

 

[Neonian]

I kinda doubt it.

 

[Draphsin]

Yeah man, really

I was actually hoping that you would post a scan, i genuinely dont know so thats why im questioning you.

Hell yeah she's proficient with Suiton. Zabuza has a 4/5 for hand seals in the data book which is the second highest in the Akatsuki. I think Kishi made the tech have a lot of signs to show how well Kakashi can copy signs.

Well to be fair, almost none of the akatsuki need to use multiple handsigns for their jutsus (deidara, sasori, hidan, nagato, konan, & kakuzu all dont) except for Itachi, but he has a 5 in handsigns. Zabuza might have a 4/5 in handsigns but that doesnt mean he can use his powerful suiton techniques with just 1. Ill agree that kishi made the transition seem slower than normal because he wanted to display the sharingan's copying ability. But zabuza still needs to perform those handsigns, just like kakashi did.

I know but even though it's speculation, I think it's highly probable that Zabuza can make around the same size of Suiton Mei can. I mean, Zabuza revolves around Suiton, Mei doesn't. She has other KG to focus on so it would be understandable if Zabuza was a better Suiton user. Mei is still stronger than him though

Its possible that he can, but i still think that mei should be a suiton specialist

 

[ShaneEyyy]

I kinda doubt it.

Why!?!?!? The Demon Brothers, chuunin level ninja who worked for Zabuza could. Water Wall is a B-rank Suiton which summons water and Zabuza was shown to perform A-rank Suiton so obviously he has the skill for it.

Thinking he can't is just dumb bro

I was actually hoping that you would post a scan, i genuinely dont know so thats why im questioning you.

I don't know how to get a scan but he does have 4/5 for chakra, Narutopedia provides the scans from the data books for stats

Well to be fair, almost none of the akatsuki need to use multiple handsigns for their jutsus (deidara, sasori, hidan, nagato, konan, & kakuzu all dont) except for Itachi, but he has a 5 in handsigns. Zabuza might have a 4/5 in handsigns but that doesnt mean he can use his powerful suiton techniques with just 1. Ill agree that kishi made the transition seem slower than normal because he wanted to display the sharingan's copying ability. But zabuza still needs to perform those handsigns, just like kakashi did.

Sasuke noted that Zabuza and Kakashi performed the jutsu in seconds so he's faster at it then u may think.

Also, Zabuza always has the mist up so he has plenty of time to make hand seals

Its possible that he can, but i still think that mei should be a suiton specialist

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Dude I already said Mei is a Suiton specialist it's kind of obvious.

And if the demon brothers can make their own water why would u think Zabuza couldn't?? Like really I don't know why people think he can

 

[Draphsin]

I don't know how to get a scan but he does have 4/5 for chakra, Narutopedia provides the scans from the data books for stats

Ill say that zabuza's chakra is strong, but that doesnt necessarily mean he has a lot of chakra.

Sasuke noted that Zabuza and Kakashi performed the jutsu in seconds so he's faster at it then u may think.

Also, Zabuza always has the mist up so he has plenty of time to make hand seals

Not saying he's slow either, but he does have to perform all the handsigns.

Dude I already said Mei is a Suiton specialist it's kind of obvious.

And if the demon brothers can make their own water why would u think Zabuza couldn't?? Like really I don't know why people think he can

I think you got mixed up In what I was trying to argue. Im saying that zabuza's suiton should logically be larger when he's near a body of water.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Ill say that zabuza's chakra is strong, but that doesnt necessarily mean he has a lot of chakra.




Not saying he's slow either, but he does have to perform all the handsigns.





I think you got mixed up In what I was trying to argue. Im saying that zabuza's suiton should logically be larger when he's near a body of water.

What???? He has a 4/5 for chakra....not the strength of the chakra that's retarded, the amount of chakra he has....this is common sense here man haha

Yeah I'm just saying performing the seals isn't a problem

And I get what you're saying. I just don't understand why other members don't think Zabuza can make his own water

 

[Draphsin]

What???? He has a 4/5 for chakra....not the strength of the chakra that's retarded, the amount of chakra he has....this is common sense here man haha

Well, uchihas are known for strong chakra & not large chakra reserves. Chakra size definitely plays a part dont get me wrong, but it was shown in the manga that zabuza possesses strong "demon like" chakra. Madara also only has strong chakra, he doesnt have a lot compared to hashi though. Its the same thing with zabuza I believe. He has a strong chakra & so he can use powerful techniques. However he probably has a decent amount too

Yeah I'm just saying performing the seals isn't a problem

And I get what you're saying. I just don't understand why other members don't think Zabuza can make his own water

lol I see, well the people who think that zabuza cant create his own siuton make absolutely makes no sense. If someone like Itachi who isnt a pure water affinity can create his own suiton jutsu then it would be a disgrace if zabuza coulnt do the same thing

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Well, uchihas are known for strong chakra & not large chakra reserves. Chakra size definitely plays a part dont get me wrong, but it was shown in the manga that zabuza possesses strong "demon like" chakra. Madara also only has strong chakra, he doesnt have a lot compared to hashi though. Its the same thing with zabuza I believe. He has a strong chakra & so he can use powerful techniques. However he probably has a decent amount too



lol I see, well the people who think that zabuza cant create his own siuton make absolutely makes no sense. If someone like Itachi who isnt a pure water affinity can create his own suiton jutsu then it would be a disgrace if zabuza coulnt do the same thing

But the data book says he has a lot of chakra! He has a 4/5, Kakashi has 3/5, Itachi has 2.5/5(low) The data book proves Zabuza has a lot

And exactly! People underrate Zabuza so much, it kinda pisses me off sometimes

 

[Draphsin]

But the data book says he has a lot of chakra! He has a 4/5, Kakashi has 3/5, Itachi has 2.5/5(low) The data book proves Zabuza has a lot

Thats stamina though, that counts towards how fast they become exhausted. Kakashi & Itachi were known for low stamina. But where would you rate madara's chakra out of curiosity? Because he would have a 5 no?

And exactly! People underrate Zabuza so much, it kinda pisses me off sometimes

Well all you can do is give them facts & hope that they arent butthurt about it U_U

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Thats stamina though, that counts towards how fast they become exhausted. Kakashi & Itachi were known for low stamina. But where would you rate madara's chakra out of curiosity? Because he would have a 5 no?

Stamina/chakra is basically the same thing. Itachi has low chakra, so low stamina, Kisame has high chakra, so high stamina. In other data books it uses the word chakra instead of stamina btw

Well all you can do is give them facts & hope that they arent butthurt about it U_U

Stamina/chakra is basically the same thing. Itachi has low chakra, so low stamina, Kisame has high chakra, so high stamina. In other data books it uses the word chakra instead of stamina btw. And yeah I'd put Madara at 5

 

[TheEvilOne]

Nope, Zabuza can't make water. The fodder jounins were surprised that Tobirama could. This hints only the Kage + ninjas can use suiton without water source.