Zabuza can make his own water

[ShaneEyyy]

I don't know why some members on here don't think Zabuza can summon his own water.

Zabuza is a great Suiton user, being able to use A-rank Suiton (Giant Vortex Jutsu). Water trumpet, only a C-rank Suiton, requires the user to expel their own water:

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If a Rock Ninja is able to expel their own water, then Zabuza, a Mist ninja who can use more difficult Suiton is clearly able too as well.

Even Yahiko as a little kid was able to perform Water Style: Wild Water Wave, a C-rank move that is considered a basic Suiton technique:

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The Demon Brothers that we all consider fodders were able to create their own water:

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Even nameless fodder Mist ninja were able to summon their own water using Water Wall, a B-rank Suiton:

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This technique, like Hidden Mist Jutsu, seems to be a signature move of Kirigakure. Zabuza can more than likely use it. Darui can even use Water Wall, and it's not even his chakra affinity.

Mei, Itachi, Kabuto, and Kakashi can all summon their own Suiton, and Suiton isn't even their chakra affinity. Suiton is Zabuza's chakra affinity.

Mist ninja, even including Mei, were shown to use Hidden Mist Jutsu by expelling it from their mouths. Zabuza can use Hidden Mist Jutsu without expelling it from his mouth or having a preexisting water source nearby, showing his skill in utilizing Suiton.

In closure, Zabuza can obviously summon his own Suiton, capable of using Water Dragon Bullet and Giant Vortex Jutsu without a nearby water source because even fodders can use B-rank Suiton to summon their own water.

Agreed?

 

[SonTj]

but theirs no proof just speculation sorry:snick:

 

[The Ultimate Unknown]

Yes I agree

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Yes I agree

If his subordinates, The Demon Brothers could summon their own water Zabuza sure as hell can, period

Do u think Itachi can use a transformation jutsu? It wasn't shown so he can't do it? if u say he can it's all speculation

 

[TheEvilOne]

No, he can't make his own water when even with water source his water was lame.

 

[Shikamaru101]

You may be right. We haven't seen all of Zabuza's capabilities so there is a possibility he can. But members on NB forums seem to only accept manga facts so unless you provide a manga page of Zabuza actually doing it, many people will not accept it. Which is a bit stupid tbh for example when i say Mei can use Earth Styles and Fire Styles which are advanced or basic, it often gets turned down when Mei has those natures but has never shown them.

And am i making the mistake in thinking that Suiton is Mei's affinity? She is the Mizukage and has shown excellent profiency with Suiton on two occasions, so i wouldn't call her fodder at Suiton.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

No, he can't make his own water when even with water source his water was lame.

Dude honestly u sound retarded. All of his jutsu have been used by S-rank ninja in the series.....

Go be a fool somewhere else

You may be right. We haven't seen all of Zabuza's capabilities so there is a possibility he can. But members on NB forums seem to only accept manga facts so unless you provide a manga page of Zabuza actually doing it, many people will not accept it. Which is a bit stupid tbh for example when i say Mei can use Earth Styles and Fire Styles which are advanced or basic, it often gets turned down when Mei has those natures but has never shown them.

And am i making the mistake in thinking that Suiton is Mei's affinity? She is the Mizukage and has shown excellent profiency with Suiton on two occasions, so i wouldn't call her fodder at Suiton.

Possibility? Dude even his subordinates the Demon Brothers could so of course Zabuza could! Kitsuchi is an excellent Doton user, is it not reasonable to say he could use Earth Clones? Itachi never used a transformation jutsu, can we not say he knows it?

Also that point u made of Mei is very understandable. It takes great mastery to combine 2 chakra natures so saying she can't use the basic natures individually is absurd.

I don't know if Suiton is her affinity, but she definitely isn't fodder with it

 

[TheEvilOne]

Dude honestly u sound retarded. All of his jutsu have been used by S-rank ninja in the series.....

Go be a fool somewhere else

Yeah, but he uses them on chuunin level at best.
Just look at Mei's Water Dragon. She made it without water source but it was still like 10 times bigger and 10 times stronger than Zabuza's water dragon.'

Mei uses the Suiton on Kage level, Zabuza on chuunin level. That's the difference between them.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Yeah, but he uses them on chuunin level at best.
Just look at Mei's Water Dragon. She made it without water source but it was still like 10 times bigger and 10 times stronger than Zabuza's water dragon.'

Mei uses the Suiton on Kage level, Zabuza on chuunin level. That's the difference between them.

Are u kidding me...his dragon was way bigger than hers. Look again and compare the sizes, Zabuza's is clearly bigger.

And dude y do u say the things u say? His Suiton was A-rank....that's jonin level not chuunin. Mei used Water Pillar and Water Dragon, that's jounin level Suiton.....it's not like she created a huge bubble like Kisame

 

[Shikamaru101]

Dude honestly u sound retarded. All of his jutsu have been used by S-rank ninja in the series.....

Go be a fool somewhere else


Possibility? Dude even his subordinates the Demon Brothers could so of course Zabuza could! Kitsuchi is an excellent Doton user, is it not reasonable to say he could use Earth Clones? Itachi never used a transformation jutsu, can we not say he knows it?

Also that point u made of Mei is very understandable. It takes great mastery to combine 2 chakra natures so saying she can't use the basic natures individually is absurd.

I don't know if Suiton is her affinity, but she definitely isn't fodder with it

Possibility meaning many people will not accept it without facts, however plausible it sounds. It is just the way it goes and is really stupid when speculation can be the truth.

And please don't say Zabuza is a better Suiton user than Mei.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Are u kidding me...his dragon was way bigger than hers. Look again and compare the sizes, Zabuza's is clearly bigger.

And dude y do u say the things u say? His Suiton was A-rank....that's jonin level not chuunin. Mei used Water Pillar and Water Dragon, that's jounin level Suiton.....it's not like she created a huge bubble like Kisame

Mei's sutin is bigger, and apparently stronger. It was able to push back Madara's Susanoo and it was able to extinguish his Katon.
Besides this, Mei's handseals are several tier better than Zabuzas. He re needs 10 seconds to make a single water dragon, Mei needs two seconds to make two Water Dragon. ( or a Dragon flood and a Waterspout )


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Zabuza's and Kakashi's was weak. Kakashi's Water Dragon was the same sized as Zabuza's, despite his element isn't even the water.
Zabuza's biggest weapon isn't his suiton, but his ability to detect the others in the mist and silent kill them.

 

[SonTj]

tobirama's water dragon(HYPE)>mei's water dragon>kakashi's water dragon=zabuza's water dragon

 

[Water dragon jutsu]

tobirama's water dragon(hype)>mei's water dragon>kakashi's water dragon=zabuza's water dragon

i agree with this post

 

[RicardoA]

It doesn't matter where the shinobi comes from to be able to create their own water Lol
Using mist as nothing to do with Suiton...
You use ranks to justify their ability. Jutsus are classified according to their difficulty, it has nothing to do with power.
Those you were calling fodder could very well be jonin, just like Zabuza.
I'm sure he's able to do it, but it was never shown, so...

 

[Exaar]

Mei's sutin is bigger, and apparently stronger. It was able to push back Madara's Susanoo and it was able to extinguish his Katon.
Besides this, Mei's handseals are several tier better than Zabuzas. He re needs 10 seconds to make a single water dragon, Mei needs two seconds to make two Water Dragon. ( or a Dragon flood and a Waterspout )


Here is Zabuza's WD

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And here are Mei's:

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Zabuza's and Kakashi's was weak. Kakashi's Water Dragon was the same sized as Zabuza's, despite his element isn't even the water.
Zabuza's biggest weapon isn't his suiton, but his ability to detect the others in the mist and silent kill them.

You should also add in the fact zabuza had an advantage over Mei when they both used water dragon, From what i remember Zabuza had a water source (a Lake or something), While mei done her without any water source.

 

[TheEvilOne]

You should also add in the fact zabuza had an advantage over Mei when they both used water dragon, From what i remember Zabuza had a water source (a Lake or something), While mei done her without any water source.

I already pointed this out in one of my previous posts. =D

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Possibility meaning many people will not accept it without facts, however plausible it sounds. It is just the way it goes and is really stupid when speculation can be the truth.

And please don't say Zabuza is a better Suiton user than Mei.

Mei has shown to use Water Pillar, Water Dragon, and Hidden Mist. Zabuza has shown to use Hidden Mist Jutsu, Water Clone, Water Prison, Water Dragon, and Giant Vortex Jutsu. The only thing Mei has going for her is that she has shown to summon her own water which even fodders can do In both of Zabuza's fights he was by a body of water so there was no need to make his own water so saying he can't isn't accurate

Zabuza is the superior Suiton user, period

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Mei's sutin is bigger, and apparently stronger. It was able to push back Madara's Susanoo and it was able to extinguish his Katon.
Besides this, Mei's handseals are several tier better than Zabuzas. He re needs 10 seconds to make a single water dragon, Mei needs two seconds to make two Water Dragon. ( or a Dragon flood and a Waterspout )


Here is Zabuza's WD

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And here are Mei's:

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Zabuza's and Kakashi's was weak. Kakashi's Water Dragon was the same sized as Zabuza's, despite his element isn't even the water.
Zabuza's biggest weapon isn't his suiton, but his ability to detect the others in the mist and silent kill them.

Please, Zabuza's and Kakashi's were clearly bigger. I don't care if Zabuza had a water source, he has a lot of chakra, having a 4/5 for it in the data book. Kakashi was able to use his Sharingan a lot in part 1 and he only had a 3/5 in the data book. Zabuza obviously has enough chakra to make his own water and use Water Dragon Jutsu.

Also, calling their dragons weak is just stupid. Look how huge Kakashi's and Zabuza's dragon is, u don't even have to compare it to Mei's to see it's a powerful jutsu.

You make me sick. But really I see u argue with so many people on here, you're just an unlikable person bro

 

[Sacrosanct]

So, you're saying that Zabuza can do something that any random fodder could do? Not impressive Lol

 

[KingHashirama]

so how is Tobirama one of the greatest suiton users?