Was Kabutomaru as strong as Madara?

[Naruto D Luffy]

Nah, Madara is strong than Kabuto...

 

[Mrmojo8484]

seriously kabuto has the upperhand?

1 amaterasu doesnt care about liquid form or any kind of hightened sense for that matter

2 madara can use genjutsu other than eye genjutsu, izanami is the strongest but not the only genjutsu able to affect enemies without using his eyes, i mean people other than uchiha use genjutsu

3 crippling dragon orb tech? now i know your a fanboy but damn wtf is that? still im sure madara could counter lol

4 im not sure who would be faster or stronger but i doubt the differance would be much either way.

5 sound 5 abilities? susanoo? id pick susanoo just sayin.

madara went toe to toe with hashirama, in their time there was no one who could compare to them and on top of that their generation imo was faaar stronger than narutos, i mean kabutos a boy madara is a grown ass man and he would slap kabuto to sleep. n by that i mean he has too many finishers for kabuto to even stand a chance. his fan is legendary his kenjutsu is legendary his chakra reserves legend...wait for it..dary.

i hate seeing people compare madara to other shinobi, madara fodderized the 5 kage and would solo anyone but hashi so no kabuto doesnt beat madara not even if madara is 80 years old and has one eye thats not his, hed still bust a quick finger genjutsu and then get kabuto to "service" his lower parts before kabuto even realizes its not oro in his mouth

Apparently, you don't read the Manga. Kabutos sensory abilites allows him to detect any attack and counter it likewise.

Again, I know you don't read. The OP said no izanami.

And grown up. You sexual references at the end we're not needed.

 

[Avinash012]

Madara wins mid-high difficulty........Kabuto knw how to figth wood style as wel as Sharingan and rinnegan....

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Then Kabuto uses Senpō: Muki Tensei. Controlling the meteor, since it is indeed inorganic. Madara jutsu would be his own death.

Preach Drproof, preach. + rep.

 

[Avinash012]

wel it is Obvious Madara is stronger than Kabuto regardless of wether he hs Rinnegan or EMS ......but Kabuto can kill Madara (very high dif)if he is alive with rinnegan or EMS but he can't kill EDO Madara or defeat EDO Madara................

 

[Fodder#4]

Then Kabuto uses Senpō: Muki Tensei. Controlling the meteor, since it is indeed inorganic. Madara jutsu would be his own death.

Which is why in my first post towards you, I said he wouldn't use it. And he would have to be touching it, no? Yes. Let's see Kabuto touch it, control it, and redirect it as it rams into him. Impossible.

That, and even if it landed in the same region Kabuto would be killed by the direct result of the blast.

And, before you ask how Madara can counter Kabuto's water-regeneration ability; It's simple. The same large scale Katon that he used against the shinobi alliance. And yes, Kabuto could dodge it with the jutsu, hiding like a mole? I'm not entirely sure on the name. But a PS Sword Swing could easily dig into the ground where he is.

And, a PS swing could kill him if a chop is sent and bisects him or splits apart his body enough. He can't easily rebuild it like Suigetsu can. So, if the PS shockwave which has leveled mountain peaks reaches Kabuto and takes his head or a sizable chunk around it (Shoulders and up) off the rest of his body, he is gone.

 

[DrProof]

Preach Drproof, preach. + rep.

I see you trying to take on these Madara fanboys. :heh:

 

[yondaime4]

Apparently, you don't read the Manga. Kabutos sensory abilites allows him to detect any attack and counter it likewise.

Again, I know you don't read. The OP said no izanami.

And grown up. You sexual references at the end we're not needed.

First i will apologive for the sexual reference but if your a dude suck it up that was a play on obitos sexual reference and i thought it was funny.lol

second jus cause kabuto can sense an attack coming doesnt mean he can counter it, i mean dude throws a ball at my head and says heads up, i turn and see it coming with no time to react and smack broken nose, amaterasu would be something like that not to mention madara could probly trick kabuto with a clone like he did the kage and blind side him so he really cant counter

and i said izanami IS NOT the only genjutsu madara can use without eye contact.

Preach Drproof, preach. + rep.

haha you would, but tell me how would kabutos ability stop a meteorin the sky? im pretty sure kabuto would have to touch it to affect it at all. but plus rep anyway fanboys gotta stick together

 

[DrProof]

Which is why in my first post towards you, I said he wouldn't use it. And he would have to be touching it, no? Yes. Let's see Kabuto touch it, control it, and redirect it as it rams into him. Impossible.

That, and even if it landed in the same region Kabuto would be killed by the direct result of the blast.

And, before you ask how Madara can counter Kabuto's water-regeneration ability; It's simple. The same large scale Katon that he used against the shinobi alliance. And yes, Kabuto could dodge it with the jutsu, hiding like a mole? I'm not entirely sure on the name. But a PS Sword Swing could easily dig into the ground where he is.

And, a PS swing could kill him if a chop is sent and bisects him or splits apart his body enough. He can't easily rebuild it like Suigetsu can. So, if the PS shockwave which has leveled mountain peaks reaches Kabuto and takes his head or a sizable chunk around it (Shoulders and up) off the rest of his body, he is gone.

Kabuto doesn't need to touch the meteor to control it lol. He just needs to distribute chakra within the ground. (Let's say that the meteor touches the ground, then Inorganic Reanimation is successful) This would allow him to do whatever he wishs with the meteor, take it apart redirect it at the last minute etc. I still don't understand how you say the Hozuki technique doesn't cause immunity to all physical techniques, when the technique's description out right says it lol. I guess arguing against Canon facts is the new thing.

Madara's Katon is countered by

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Suiton technique, in which Kabuto was about to use, until Itachi countered a Suiton, with a Suiton (Itachi's overpowered due to him being Edo Tensei'd).

Perfect Susano'o is tanked due to The Hozuki's hydrafication technique.

 

[yondaime4]

You guys can boost kabuto all day but kishi said himself madara is the ultimate villain without weakness, he destroyed the 5 kage and you still think kabuto ALONE has a chance. smh.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Kabuto doesn't need to touch the meteor to control it lol. He just needs to distribute chakra within the ground. (Let's say that the meteor touches the ground, then Inorganic Reanimation is successful) This would allow him to do whatever he wishs with the meteor, take it apart redirect it at the last minute etc. I still don't understand how you say the Hozuki technique doesn't cause immunity to all physical techniques, when the technique's description out right says it lol. I guess arguing against Canon facts is the new thing.

Madara's Katon is countered by

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Suiton technique, in which Kabuto was about to use, until Itachi countered a Suiton, with a Suiton (Itachi's overpowered due to him being Edo Tensei'd).

Perfect Susano'o is tanked due to The Hozuki's hydrafication technique.

Exactly. Or to make this easier, he could just protrude a snake from his body into the sky to touch it. Muki Tensei successful.

 

[DrProof]

You guys can boost kabuto all day but kishi said himself madara is the ultimate villain without weakness, he destroyed the 5 kage and you still think kabuto ALONE has a chance. smh.

Please shut up with your wank, and "Kishimoto said blah blah can't be defeated". Kishimoto stated Itachi was invincible does that mean Madara can lose against Itachi? Be like AncientCenturion, and stay giving manga facts, and not this BS.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

You guys can boost kabuto all day but kishi said himself madara is the ultimate villain without weakness, he destroyed the 5 kage and you still think kabuto ALONE has a chance. smh.

As I've states before, he can take Ems Madara. Your talking about Edo Madara.

 

[Fodder#4]

Kabuto doesn't need to touch the meteor to control it lol. He just needs to distribute chakra within the ground. (Let's say that the meteor touches the ground, then Inorganic Reanimation is successful) This would allow him to do whatever he wishs with the meteor, take it apart redirect it at the last minute etc. I still don't understand how you say the Hozuki technique doesn't cause immunity to all physical techniques, when the technique's description out right says it lol. I guess arguing against Canon facts is the new thing.

Madara's Katon is countered by

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Suiton technique, in which Kabuto was about to use, until Itachi countered a Suiton, with a Suiton (Itachi's overpowered due to him being Edo Tensei'd).

Perfect Susano'o is tanked due to The Hozuki's hydrafication technique.

Your arguments are getting weak now, I hope you know. I think you do.

And, I'll start with your "counter" to Madara's katon. This technique is

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, kabuto's without a doubt is being over powered here. You understand this, correct?

And haven't I already told you that Kabuto's hydrafication technique is directly related to his own body fluids, based off of the Hozuki Clan's? So, if he begins to get dehydrated it will be harder and harder to do this. And, it isn't instant either[

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Your whole basis is off of this one jutsu, but Madara can rid Kabuto of it. As I've said.

And, is that the best you've got? And, you know he only manipulated the cave because he was touching it, allowing him to distribute his chakra. The last second, are you this desperate? No shinobi alive is capable of stopping a meteor with chakra lone the second it touches the ground, redirect it and do whatever he wants with it.

Kabuto will not be able to counter it. It's common sense that by the time it hits the ground, it's over. You're countering the wrong jutsu anyways. Why not use his ability to manipulate inorganic substances through touching and distributing chakra to them to potentially take Madara out before he uses a PS?

This is just astounding right now. And as for arguing with manga facts, I proved to you that Kabuto doesn't have Suigetsui's exact liduidification. Yet you still claim it does.

And, I surely hope you did not refer to me as a Madara fanboy in your previous post. If so, please ask someone such as HiddenSound for reassurance. I am no fanboy of Madara, and far closer to being a Kabuto fanboy. I just know his restrictions.

 

[yondaime4]

Kabuto doesn't need to touch the meteor to control it lol. He just needs to distribute chakra within the ground. (Let's say that the meteor touches the ground, then Inorganic Reanimation is successful) This would allow him to do whatever he wishs with the meteor, take it apart redirect it at the last minute etc. I still don't understand how you say the Hozuki technique doesn't cause immunity to all physical techniques, when the technique's description out right says it lol. I guess arguing against Canon facts is the new thing.

Madara's Katon is countered by

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Suiton technique, in which Kabuto was about to use, until Itachi countered a Suiton, with a Suiton (Itachi's overpowered due to him being Edo Tensei'd).

Perfect Susano'o is tanked due to The Hozuki's hydrafication technique.

drspoof your supposed to be legit but holding on to this notion that anything (other than oonoki or muu) can stop a meteor in the sky is crazy, your saying kabutos tech would break down the meteor in the milisecond it hits so as to stop the impact?? really?

kabutos best chance would be to create a hole in the ground so as there is no impact but then a second would most definitely land on kabutos head.

as far as kabutos suiton well i doubt itd be strong enough to counter madaras huge enton seeing ass it took several ally shinobi to stop it, but assuming it did theres no way it would stop amaterasu and on top of that madara could have flame control like sasuke and maybe even some lightning to counter kabutos liquid form, who knows.

if you simulated this match up in a comp madara wins everytime no doubt

 

[Mrmojo8484]

First i will apologive for the sexual reference but if your a dude suck it up that was a play on obitos sexual reference and i thought it was funny.lol

second jus cause kabuto can sense an attack coming doesnt mean he can counter it, i mean dude throws a ball at my head and says heads up, i turn and see it coming with no time to react and smack broken nose, amaterasu would be something like that not to mention madara could probly trick kabuto with a clone like he did the kage and blind side him so he really cant counter

and i said izanami IS NOT the only genjutsu madara can use without eye contact.




haha you would, but tell me how would kabutos ability stop a meteorin the sky? im pretty sure kabuto would have to touch it to affect it at all. but plus rep anyway fanboys gotta stick together

If you sensed the ball as soon as it's released and knew which direction it coming from, surely you'd dodge it.

And as I said before, Shadow snake tech, send a snake to the sky to make contact with the meteor. Muki Tensei successful.

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Your arguments are getting weak now, I hope you know. I think you do.

And, I'll start with your "counter" to Madara's katon. This technique is

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, kabuto's without a doubt is being over powered here. You understand this, correct?

And haven't I already told you that Kabuto's hydrafication technique is directly related to his own body fluids, based off of the Hozuki Clan's? So, if he begins to get dehydrated it will be harder and harder to do this. And, it isn't instant either[

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] [

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]. It does take time.

Your whole basis is off of this one jutsu, but Madara can rid Kabuto of it. As I've said.

And, is that the best you've got? And, you know he only manipulated the cave because he was touching it, allowing him to distribute his chakra. The last second, are you this desperate? No shinobi alive is capable of stopping a meteor with chakra lone the second it touches the ground, redirect it and do whatever he wants with it.

Kabuto will not be able to counter it. It's common sense that by the time it hits the ground, it's over. You're countering the wrong jutsu anyways. Why not use his ability to manipulate inorganic substances through touching and distributing chakra to them to potentially take Madara out before he uses a PS?

This is just astounding right now. And as for arguing with manga facts, I proved to you that Kabuto doesn't have Suigetsui's exact liduidification. Yet you still claim it does.

And, I surely hope you did not refer to me as a Madara fanboy in your previous post. If so, please ask someone such as HiddenSound for reassurance. I am no fanboy of Madara, and far closer to being a Kabuto fanboy. I just know his restrictions.

Again, send snakes to make contact with meteor.

 

[DrProof]

Your arguments are getting weak now, I hope you know. I think you do.

And, I'll start with your "counter" to Madara's katon. This technique is

You must be registered for see links

, kabuto's without a doubt is being over powered here. You understand this, correct?

And haven't I already told you that Kabuto's hydrafication technique is directly related to his own body fluids, based off of the Hozuki Clan's? So, if he begins to get dehydrated it will be harder and harder to do this. And, it isn't instant either[

You must be registered for see links

] [

You must be registered for see links

]. It does take time.

Your whole basis is off of this one jutsu, but Madara can rid Kabuto of it. As I've said.

And, is that the best you've got? And, you know he only manipulated the cave because he was touching it, allowing him to distribute his chakra. The last second, are you this desperate? No shinobi alive is capable of stopping a meteor with chakra lone the second it touches the ground, redirect it and do whatever he wants with it.

Kabuto will not be able to counter it. It's common sense that by the time it hits the ground, it's over. You're countering the wrong jutsu anyways. Why not use his ability to manipulate inorganic substances through touching and distributing chakra to them to potentially take Madara out before he uses a PS?

This is just astounding right now. And as for arguing with manga facts, I proved to you that Kabuto doesn't have Suigetsui's exact liduidification. Yet you still claim it does.

And, I surely hope you did not refer to me as a Madara fanboy in your previous post. If so, please ask someone such as HiddenSound for reassurance. I am no fanboy of Madara, and far closer to being a Kabuto fanboy. I just know his restrictions.

We could possibly set up a debate, as I'm quite tired (12:49am), and I've got football practice tomorrow within the morning (7:10am). My arguments are indeed getting weak due to my inability to go to sleep (insomnia). I can continue with you tomorrow if you'd wish.

And I was talking about you being a Madara fanboy, but my homeboy was arguing with multiples, and one who wouldn't take into case Kabuto arsenal. Don't get mad over that comment, plus you've only just switched to Orochimaru's side, you were Kisame previously.

 

[yondaime4]

Please shut up with your wank, and "Kishimoto said blah blah can't be defeated". Kishimoto stated Itachi was invincible does that mean Madara can lose against Itachi? Be like AncientCenturion, and stay giving manga facts, and not this BS.

Hahaha you mad? why you mad? cause kishi said itachis yata mirror is invincible? never said itachi himself was invincible, but Id expect that when you got nothing else haha.

and yes madara can lose to itachi infact its more likely than madara losing to kabuto cause itachi beat kabuto, not that this is an abc scenario just simply differance in strength and smarts. imo itachi kakashi and minato are the smartest so i would put them up against anyone but then again madara is still on a whole nother level.

just admit that madara is OP and we can all be on our way

 

[Mrmojo8484]

drspoof your supposed to be legit but holding on to this notion that anything (other than oonoki or muu) can stop a meteor in the sky is crazy, your saying kabutos tech would break down the meteor in the milisecond it hits so as to stop the impact?? really?

kabutos best chance would be to create a hole in the ground so as there is no impact but then a second would most definitely land on kabutos head.

as far as kabutos suiton well i doubt itd be strong enough to counter madaras huge enton seeing ass it took several ally shinobi to stop it, but assuming it did theres no way it would stop amaterasu and on top of that madara could have flame control like sasuke and maybe even some lightning to counter kabutos liquid form, who knows.

if you simulated this match up in a comp madara wins everytime no doubt

Don't assume he has such jutsu. I could say the same for Kabuto.